Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV

Reign23 · Post #601 » by **Reign23** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:56 pm

mpharris36 wrote:we really talking about DSJ that he cut his hair when he was the worst player in the NBA last year?

melos trolling job is just on another level

Jimmit79 · Post #602 » by **Jimmit79** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Jimmit79 wrote:My sauces are saying Knicks will panic soon

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we literally should line up at MSG right now like...

Bro Dolan and Calvary will just overun us

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knickstape4ever · Post #603 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:Knicks should extend Frank, before they have to overpay next year.

#LockHimUp

Nah, Frank still has too much to show improvement on. He’s already passive and you wanna give him a bag?

I'd do this in a heartbeat & if it doesn't work out. I bet you could still trade him to the spurs or something

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yeah, it was known when Frank was drafted he was a project. he wasn't drafted for years 1-4; he's still just 22 and his defense will continue to

I've pretty much given up on Knox, because neither brings something above-avg. to the table, whereas I still have faith in Frank because he's a good defender and if the shot improves (and it did last season, shot well from corners too) he's a rotation player on ANY NBA team

Richard4444 · Post #604 » by **Richard4444** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

We lost another point guard option:
Raulzinho went to Wizards...

EricAnderson · Post #605 » by **EricAnderson** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
BugginOut wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
this time it's probably for real. RJ and Mitch look like core pieces, and Obi was 1 of the safer picks in the draft. add in a top 10 pick in a loaded 2021 (as well as 3 other picks that'll be in the top 40) and I like our chances

Top 10 picks mean nothing. Knox, Frank and even DSJ are all top 10 picks. How are they looking? Everyone says the draft is loaded, but perceptions about draft classes can change real quick. The 2014 draft was supposed to be loaded with Wiggins, Parker and Embiid and now only one of those players is an allstar level player

Even if we get a top 3 pick there is no guarantee that the pick is an allstar. At least one pick in the top 3 is a bust every year. Sh*t even if we get the first pick and draft Cade there is no guarantee we win anything. In the past 10 years the only number one pick to win a championship has been Anthony Davis and Kyrie. If you expand the list to the past 20 years the list increases to Lebron, Dwight, AD, Bogut, Kyrie.

Only Lebron has won as the best player on a championship team, playing on the team that drafted him 1st in the past 20 YEARS. And he had to leave win in Miami and come back for that to happened.

Stop tanking. Try to be competitive.

some prospects fail, it happens, that's why during the rebuilding phase you load up on picks. more bites at the apple=more chances for success

true there is a chance that our top pick next year is a bust, but there's still a greater chance we find a star w/ that pick than we would bu signing some B-level FA's + we also have 4 picks in the top 40 (hornets and pistons will be bottom 10 teams)

there are at least 7 prospects that had they been eligible to be drafted Wednesday, would have easily gone #1. things could change, the draft might not end up as good as we thought, could also end up better. after watching some of them, I think there are some truly special talents (Cade, Green, Boston most notably)

you can't win in this league w/o stars and you can either draft, sign, or trade for stars. since I dont see any stars signing here (even in 2021), and there are none on the trade market (other than Harden, who doesn't want to be here), the draft is the most viable option as well as accumulating picks + young talent in case another star becomes available via trade

Exactly.. Even if none of the players you drafted become stars if there good they can be moved for a disgruntled one I.E. the Lakers young players for Davis

Post #606 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

We are still probably not a playoff team if you add Westbrook to this roster. Its even more pointless to trade for him now. Praying Wash pulls off a deal

Big Chan · Post #607 » by **Big Chan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:57 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

Yes please, I’d drive Julius to Minnie too

Bob Ross · Post #608 » by **Bob Ross** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

Too many of yall are caught up in FA hype. This FA class is trash and we all knew it but now we are "striking out". Please. I like the FO approach. Grt a good deal together or dont panic and make bad signings. We can do more with capspace than just sign players and if there was ever a year to tank, its this one. Im not on team tank, but I'd rather do it this year than become maybe mediocre before a super stacked draft

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #609 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

I'm all for letting DSjr and Frank start together, the reason is really simple, they've had 9 months off. If they haven't improved in that time frame they never will and we can quickly move on from them if that's the case. Look at how some of the younger players came back to the bubble, most of them took a step up. I'm honestly curious to see what our young players look like without anyone in front of them, let the fear of being out the league be their competition.

god shammgod · Post #610 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

berman just depressed me, i'll be honest. the worst thing is that advanced stats love payton for whatever reason. so on paper the new geeks we hired might think he's the best option.

NYKnickerbocker · Post #611 » by **NYKnickerbocker** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

Reign23 wrote:again: appreciate carmelo anthony. the only star who wanted to come here.
and that is why i would welcome him back with open arms.

Cause we went out and signed a guy to pair with our up and coming young guys and he saw a good team he could join

Nobody gunma wanna come here while we suck

swisscheeseD · Post #612 » by **swisscheeseD** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

If we manage to sign Gordon Hayward, I think we bring in Westbrook. If we don’t bring in Hayward, I can see us making a move with either New Orleans for Bledsoe/Lonzo or to Charlotte for Rozier.

I can’t see them going into the season w/ Frank and DSJ at the point...

Payton, even on a 1yr deal would make me throw up.

Dantares · Post #613 » by **Dantares** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:58 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

deal. no takebacks

robillionaire · Post #614 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

and here we go

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Strick · Post #615 » by **Strick** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

I would do that in a heartbeat

Mr Rabbit · Post #616 » by **Mr Rabbit** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

I’d send Randle to Minnesota for two Juicy Lucy’s and a bag of cheese curds

thebuzzardman · Post #617 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

In a second.

I have a feeling your TWolves compatriots are a little less enthusiastic about such a deal though.

BugginOut · Post #618 » by **BugginOut** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

We can't just keep tanking and hoping to luck into a star. You know we have to develop these players right. You just don't tank and a superstar pops out. You have to have a foundation to build them into a star. Part of the reason Frank and Knox look so bad is cause we have put them in horrible situations. Put them on the Warriors, Heat or Spurs they look a lot different.

If Kawhi isn't drafted by the spurs I doubt he becomes who he is today and he was picked 15th. Raptors just won with no lottery picks on the roster. Warriors won with no top 5 picks. We don't need to be a bottom feeder for another season we need to actually start winning games, before RJ and Toppin pick up bad habits.

Post #619 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:59 pm

Dantares wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Thibs ready to turn him to D Rose 2.0

man this isn't time for jokes. we are striking out left and right with quality free agents

Savage

Post #620 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:00 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Wolves fan here..would you guys do Culver+Hernangomez sign and trade for Randle? Pretty sure you guys are starting Obi at the 4. And i don't think Randle is gonna be too happy about coming off the bench. Culver was #6 pick last yr. Has potential to pan out. And Hernangomez is serviceable backup stretch 4.

we will throw DSJ in as well just because we are nice.