[SHAMS] Serge Ibaka agrees to deal with Clippers, 2yrs/19mil
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If Marc Gasol leaves too then who plays center for the Raptors?
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playaloc916 wrote:I'm happy with this pickup. I'll take Ibaka over Harrell easily. Harrell is too emotional and was the center of a lot of friction in the locker room, so replacing him with one of Kawhi's old teammates will probably have a positive impact to team morale. Trezz overachieved and then it got to his head. He couldn't handle taking a back seat when two superstars joined the team.
Well the trade is really Harrell and Green for Ibaka no? Lost depth might be an issue.
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realball wrote:Ibaka won't be shooting as well without Lowry to set him up, and he was our weakest defender... but he's still a great signing, he will definitely be an upgrade. Not a great passer, but at least he's not a non-shooting ball hog like Trez.
Clippers really need to find a PG who can properly run a pick and pop.
Even though Lou Williams played badly overall in the bubble, he is not bad in screen roll and pop situations. He is actually not as selfish as some people think he is.
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Plus he is a good teammate that spaces the floor.
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Lowry also really likes Kawhi, he might go next year.
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Benedict_Boozer wrote:playaloc916 wrote:I'm happy with this pickup. I'll take Ibaka over Harrell easily. Harrell is too emotional and was the center of a lot of friction in the locker room, so replacing him with one of Kawhi's old teammates will probably have a positive impact to team morale. Trezz overachieved and then it got to his head. He couldn't handle taking a back seat when two superstars joined the team.
Well the trade is really Harrell and Green for Ibaka no? Lost depth might be an issue.
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They did re-sign Patrick Patterson. He isn't as good of a defender as Green but he is a better shooter- although a bit streaky
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Everyone was so quick to clown us too. Now just add Gasol as a 3rd center and a PG via trade.
Y’all still haven’t improved, the clowning was not unjustified
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Plus he is a good teammate that spaces the floor.
He gets a lot, and I mean a lot, of points spoon fed by Lowry and to a lesser extent FVV. Who exactly on LA is a good distributor?
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Still a good player for a guy in his mid/late 30's.
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Everyone was so quick to clown us too. Now just add Gasol as a 3rd center and a PG via trade.
Gasol and Lowry too, eh?
First Tampa Bay Raptors now the Toronto Clippers. 2020 has been one crazy year.
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We are just pissed he joined the clippers and at such a low price that signals some under the table deal from Ballmer.
For all clipper fans: let's hope Lu doesnt start Ibaka next to Zubac. And remember these two words
"Stone hands"
Enjoy!
For all clipper fans: let's hope Lu doesnt start Ibaka next to Zubac. And remember these two words
"Stone hands"
Enjoy!
jc23 wrote:Judging by Raptor fans reaction the clips got a good deal.
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Benedict_Boozer wrote:playaloc916 wrote:I'm happy with this pickup. I'll take Ibaka over Harrell easily. Harrell is too emotional and was the center of a lot of friction in the locker room, so replacing him with one of Kawhi's old teammates will probably have a positive impact to team morale. Trezz overachieved and then it got to his head. He couldn't handle taking a back seat when two superstars joined the team.
Well the trade is really Harrell and Green for Ibaka no? Lost depth might be an issue.
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Green leaving definitely hurts. He was solid and hit some big shots. Good locker room guy too. I'm not mad at him for leaving. He deserved more minutes, and if Denver can give them to him, then it's a win-win deal.
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pr0wler wrote:Still a good player for a guy in his mid/late 30's.
Yeah and the Clippers really needed him even though he doesn’t play much D. Clippers still need depth as they lost Harrell and Green so we shall see how the handle the rest of the season.
If they add Gasol then the bigs are set. They need to add backup big plus guard help.
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LakersSoul wrote:Repeat 3-peat wrote:Raptors are trying to retain Gasol but who steps in for depth at center? Has Boucher shown enough to be that guy?
Ibaka was better on O and kind of poor on D.
Opposite for Gasol who performed well on D.
Gasol would be a good stretch 5 for the Lakers.
Though if Lakers get him Gasol is washed. If Clippers get him then Gasol is reborn.
Gasol was already washed last season, nothing will change that this season.
He's only good in very specific matchups and in limited minutes.
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Really good fit signing for Clips
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This is a good pickup. I thought he would get more money too
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Not a fan of this signing for the Clippers at all, since Ibaka doesn't fill any of their playmaking or defensive needs. He shoots the ball really well for a big man, but that's about it. He can't switch onto the perimeter and gets cooked in the PnR easily, he's too small to defend post-ups from bigger centres, and he's not the shotblocker that he was five years ago. Ibaka is a black hole on offense: he likes to take shots after getting the ball and he reads the floor too slowly, so don't expect him to bail out an already poorly designed Clippers offense, which is basically guys taking turns isolating. Ibaka has a really bad habit of making boneheaded decisions and losing his temper sometimes, and he moves slowly like a statue because he's lost so much athleticism over the years. Did I mention that he has hands of stone too? Nurse did an excellent job masking his numerous weaknesses with the Raptors (a stark reversal of his time under Doofus Casey where he was just atrocious), and Lowry got him a ton of easy points with his excellent playmaking. The Clippers don't have a coach like Nurse, nor do they have a point guard like Lowry, so I expect Ibaka to be worse on the Clippers while not filling any of their needs for them.
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gp2015 wrote:LakersSoul wrote:Repeat 3-peat wrote:Raptors are trying to retain Gasol but who steps in for depth at center? Has Boucher shown enough to be that guy?
Ibaka was better on O and kind of poor on D.
Opposite for Gasol who performed well on D.
Gasol would be a good stretch 5 for the Lakers.
Though if Lakers get him Gasol is washed. If Clippers get him then Gasol is reborn.
Gasol was already washed last season, nothing will change that this season.
He's only good in very specific matchups and in limited minutes.
That’s exactly what the Lakers need after DHoward panicked. Hope we can land Marc Gasol and sign Pau as honorary player before he retires. That would be classy.
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could be a good pickup, he really needs a point guard tho
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vbmeer wrote:Lowry also really likes Kawhi, he might go next year.
I don't think anyone really likes Kawhi, Kawhi is not the friendly type. If Kyle leaves Toronto, Philly is a likely destination.