Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End

[Celts17Pride]

Didn’t see bazemore with GS. I like him a lot. Sucks, but good move for him.


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Bazemore wanted to play with Wanamaker. Huge mistake by Ainge not resigning Brad

[SMTBSI]

Went for my first post-Covid run. Slow, awful, totally sapped now, but established that all my residual phlegm is entirely in my esophagus, not my windpipe. So, that's good.

Figured for sure I'd miss all the action while I was out. Nope.

[rd26]

Rent-free ...

No matter how many times BCGM says this, it remains quite distant from reality. Jaylen's stop-and-multi-fake midrange drives matter. They aren't elite drives to the rim; they aren't teardrops/floaters; they aren't Kembaesque stepback stop-and-pops. But they are similarly effective in a diffferent way.

Jaylen's switchability on defense matters too. He can guard three positions solidly and credibly fake guarding the other two.

I actually agree that he's a natural SF, just like Jaylen and Gordon are. I think Marcus and Kemba should both start, at least against most opponents. But this Jaylen bashing continues to be way overwrought.

I've said ad nauseam he's great in his role, which is to stand in the corner and shoot wide open threes and scoring in transition. How is this construed as bashing? I legit cannot name many, if any, other guys in the NBA who can defend like you mentioned while also being money on wide open threes. But he doesn't have an even average handle. And he isn't a playmaker due to his BBIQ. I think after 4 years, despite modest improvements in both areas, this is who he is. And it's because of this, he's not elite like some of these other shooting guards, who can take over games because they are multi-faceted on offense. Are people really arguing that he's better than Harden, Beal, Booker, Mitchell or Murray? If not, what's the problem? Why all the consternation. I've literally said nothing to warrant people clutching pearls over. Perhaps I don't fawn over him at an acceptable rate? Is that it?

Dude the player you describe over and over in essay form in thread after thread is Semi.

Then you spit out 3 more essays chastising the board for not agreeing with you.

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[BigTrade92]

I’ve got to give Rob Pelinka credit, the guy has done a pretty solid job since taking over in LA.

Having Lebron doesn’t either...

[BostonCouchGM]

yuck, Baynes to TOR. I'm not happy

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I guess Ainge is taking Sunday off

[Parliament10]

The couchgm guy wants to move Brown from SG to SF because of Brown's playmaking and handle deficiences so I thought the implication was that the SG would thus have better playmaking ability and handle.

currently Jaylen is a stand in the corner and shoot wide open C & S threes and transition scorer only, dependent on others getting him the ball. That's literally what Nesmith and SGs like Redick, Klay, Green excel at too. Typically, the better SGs have that ability but also can initiate the offense and attack defenses off the dribble (Wade, Booker, Kobe, MJ, Beal, Mitchell) unlike Jaylen due to his poor handle. Wait, are homers actually tryin to claim Jaylen doesn't have an atrocious handle that prevents him from doing this? lmao. Is it some slight wanting Jaylen to move to the 3? What a touchy sensitive bunch his defenders are.

I'm not confident Nesmith can do all those extra things but I am confident he can do exactly what Jaylen does in our offense and has the physical profile and athleticism to approximate his defense. So, while my moronic haters like to make it out as if I've said something controversial, it's anything but. That said, I think Nesmith moves without the ball and is a better shooter than Jaylen so he'll be an upgrade in that respect. But I'm not sure he has Jaylen's post up game or transition game nor on the ball defense. But when you lose Hayward you have to plug in players where they can replace that production. I like Smart off the bench. I don't know why suggesting Nesmith, who is an excellent prospect, should start is rustling Jimmies

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Stop Using this kind of reference.

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[Scoonie]

yuck, Baynes to TOR. I'm not happy

He’s always hurt.

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I guess Ainge is taking Sunday off

Big help for them is healthy.

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[djFan71]

How about this one:

PHO gets Zeller (they get a backup center unless they just plan on re-signing Baynes)
CHA gets Hayward (they keep all their ballhandlers; still many bigs in FA market)
BOS gets Nader (absorbed into Poirier TPE), $27.9M TPE

Nader is like the rich man's Hayward so this is highway robbery by us.

Slick, if CHA wants off Zeller. Can CHA take Baynes back in an S&T in the same deal? Money would work.
Then Theis would be jelly of his boys reuniting in CHA without him.

Would Baynes agree to a starting salary of about $8M? 'Cos I don't think it can exceed that for both him and Hayward to fit into CHA's cap space.

Appears so... Just under. 2yr/$14.3M. Whether he would have done that to go to CHA instead of TOR, who knows...

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[snowman]

I have been a fan of the Celtics since Larry Bird was drafted. I have been reading and posting on this board since 2009 and have read many comments from many posters. I don't post a lot, but am here reading every night. One thing I have noticed is that there will always be people on this forum that are so negative that it does not matter what the Celts do or who sign or draft. They are ALWAYS going to find something to complain about. This is an open forum and everyone has the right to piss and moan about whatever or whoever they want, as long as it pertains to the Celtics. I am not a Danny Ainge fanboy, never will be and have disagreed with MANY of his draft choices, trades, and roster moves. I get very frustrated with Brad standing on the sidelines, chewing his gum, and letting leads get blown away. But first and for most I am a CELTICS fan, and will always root for my team.

So, I have a question for some of the ones that hate Danny and Brad so much, and hate all the moves they make, and think all the players suck and don't mind telling everyone about it, then how are you still a Celtics fan, or better yet, why are you a Celtics fan ? Again, everyone has the right to do so, and I will defend that right for anyone. But if you truly are so unhappy with the team, it's player and coaching staff, owners, why are you still on this forum ?

[Edug27]

Lakers will easily win the west. Have to respect their aggressiveness even after winning a title.

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Will be interesting to see where he ends up.

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Will be interesting to see where he ends up.

White side is talented, but ya gotta play hard.


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[floyd]

yuck, Baynes to TOR. I'm not happy

He’s always hurt.

Why would we need another big anyway?

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[Celts17Pride]

yuck, Baynes to TOR. I'm not happy

He’s always hurt.

Why would we need another big anyway?

Especially since we are probably getting Cody Zeller