Tournament of Champions 2020 (Post-Merger) - Discussion Thread

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Post#81 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:42 am

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I think the best duo defensively is Walton/Kareem and it isn't particularly close. This pool does not have many stretch 4's or 4's who are true game changers outside of the paint. Having arguably the two best defensive centers in the pool in Kareem/Walton is going to be a nightmare.

I don't think the eligible versions of Kareem have a case for being the best defensive C in this pool.

Peak Walton does, but I would assume Bird is using 1986 SMOY Walton here.


You may be right about Kareem but he was still brilliant defensively in 1980.

Why would Bird ever use 6MOY when he can use a top 15-peak when just about every other team has just 1 top peak? That would be Bird punting this.

Well I figured he wouldn't be using Walton at PF but I may be mistaken.
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Post#82 » by Jordan Syndrome » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:44 am

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Fadeaway_J wrote:I don't think the eligible versions of Kareem have a case for being the best defensive C in this pool.

Peak Walton does, but I would assume Bird is using 1986 SMOY Walton here.


You may be right about Kareem but he was still brilliant defensively in 1980.

Why would Bird ever use 6MOY when he can use a top 15-peak when just about every other team has just 1 top peak? That would be Bird punting this.

Well I figured he wouldn't be using Walton at PF but I may be mistaken.


I think its a 2-big format personally but I could be wrong.

I'm already second guessing the Walton/Dirk pick but I picked Dirk because he creates a bigger mismatch offensively and the center position is very deep in this.
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Post#83 » by Jon_3232 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:59 am

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Post#84 » by Jon_3232 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:59 am

This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking
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Post#85 » by Jon_3232 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:00 am

Gotta get that backup Center ASAP
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Post#86 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:01 am

Jon_3232 wrote:This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking


I might be missing something obvious but since you can only use them in the year of the title, it might be worth considering doing a quick change on that one.
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Post#87 » by Laimbeer » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:02 am

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Jon_3232 wrote:This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking


I might be missing something obvious but since you can only use them in the year of the title, it might be worth considering doing a quick change on that one.


Pretty sure changing picks isn't allowed.
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Post#88 » by Jon_3232 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:03 am

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Jon_3232 wrote:This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking


I might be missing something obvious but since you can only use them in the year of the title, it might be worth considering doing a quick change on that one.


Can’t , too late lol
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Post#89 » by Jordan Syndrome » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:03 am

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Jon_3232 wrote:This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking


I might be missing something obvious but since you can only use them in the year of the title, it might be worth considering doing a quick change on that one.


Pretty sure changing picks isn't allowed.


Pretty sure Jimmy meant change the results of the 2009 Finals.
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Post#90 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:04 am

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Jon_3232 wrote:This is why I shouldn’t be multitasking


I might be missing something obvious but since you can only use them in the year of the title, it might be worth considering doing a quick change on that one.


Pretty sure changing picks isn't allowed.


This might be one of those times when my complete disregard for letter of law puts me in the minority, but in my opinion the whole competition is best if we let him do a repick. It's not like we need to uphold justice or teach him a lesson or something. Just my POV, but probably alone there.
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Post#91 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:58 am

wackbone wrote:After getting insanely lucky with draft position in the last draft, it is only fair I get one of the worst draws in this one. Those duos at the bottom looking mighty fine. And MJ/LBJ are always tough to top. Might just go for a fun team!!!


Yea being one spot below Lebron/Jordan, while the teams at the bottom got combos like Kobe/Dirk feels like an uphill climb for me...
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Post#92 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:03 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:This might be one of those times when my complete disregard for letter of law puts me in the minority, but in my opinion the whole competition is best if we let him do a repick. It's not like we need to uphold justice or teach him a lesson or something. Just my POV, but probably alone there.


We have stuck to the rules of not being allowed to change picks in the past, it actually prevents drama since it's so black and white. I also think LA Bird meant to take prime Walton.
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Post#93 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:10 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:This might be one of those times when my complete disregard for letter of law puts me in the minority, but in my opinion the whole competition is best if we let him do a repick. It's not like we need to uphold justice or teach him a lesson or something. Just my POV, but probably alone there.


We have stuck to the rules of not being allowed to change picks in the past, it actually prevents drama since it's so black and white. I also think LA Bird meant to take prime Walton.


That's fair enough. I guess it depends on the level of trust among the participants. We can go with whatever the rules are for now, but maybe worth consider for future games? I don't hold people to the flame unless they are my enemy.
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Post#94 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:19 am

I might have screwed myself with the McHale pick as PF is the deepest position, however I feel like in a draft with "real" feeling teams having a proven championship combo is an asset
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Post#95 » by parsnips33 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:48 am

Sorry for the hold up everybody had a crazy day. I'll just sit this one out at this point
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Post#96 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:12 am

parsnips33 wrote:Sorry for the hold up everybody had a crazy day. I'll just sit this one out at this point


Happens to the best of us dude. Hope all is well
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Post#97 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:15 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I might have screwed myself with the McHale pick as PF is the deepest position, however I feel like in a draft with "real" feeling teams having a proven championship combo is an asset

In this draft I would say having top-end talent matters more than specific positions.
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Post#98 » by Laimbeer » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:25 pm

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Dr Positivity wrote:I might have screwed myself with the McHale pick as PF is the deepest position, however I feel like in a draft with "real" feeling teams having a proven championship combo is an asset

In this draft I would say having top-end talent matters more than specific positions.


Yeah, proven combination, all-NBAish, not terribly expensive. Higher end talent is going to dry up quickly, pretty much the reason I went with Pau.
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Post#99 » by MadNESS » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:03 pm

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Best defence in the game huh... Let’s tango :P

Blazer's duo of AD and Pippen are up there too


I think the best duo defensively is Walton/Kareem and it isn't particularly close. This pool does not have many stretch 4's or 4's who are true game changers outside of the paint. Having arguably the two best defensive centers in the pool in Kareem/Walton is going to be a nightmare.


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Post#100 » by MadNESS » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:07 pm

So the players year selected has to be one they won a title in correct?
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