How to fix the "bigs" problems now?

[old school 34]

The facts that we made a big push for Derrick Jones Jr (I assume instead of resigning Juancho), gives me comfort in the fact that the front office probably isn't satisfied with the current roster make up and recognizes we have a huge need for someone capable of guarding larger wings / skilled PFs.

I'd rather have Juancho.

I saw the DJJ article and our apparent interest....which is encouraging that we were looking for potentially another bigger wing option yet. And obviously the simplest path would've been thru mid level...maybe, could've been S&T as well...would be really interesting to see what that butterfly effect would've turned out looking like? Think I'd want to see what that end roster looks like before I automatically sweat..that we lost out?

And that's what I appreciate with this FO...compared to some in past....in seems like we've played Options A, B, & C so much farther down the road than others besides having options D,E, & F...where fair or not past guys didn't have a plan past maybe B?

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Jrue is an underrated defender. Really strong, has quick hands. If Okogie, Culver or even Edwards learn how to use their strength and wingspan to defend bigger opponents without fouling I have no problems with playing them at PF. Let say Okogie shoots a respectable 36% from 3pt point and grabs enough rebounds. One big advantage he would bring is that he can switch in defense and guard any perimeter player simultaneously.

That's a 10% jump for Okogie.

Yes, 10%. I wonder shooting mostly spotup 3s from corners will help.

[old school 34]

Dream home run swing...

Culver & rights to Bolmaro & McDaniels for John Collins (never paid so close to Hawks tea leaves before...lol).

JC needs to get paid & that's what might create our opportunity...might be slight overpay...with assets & contract (another guy that needs to get better defensively but adds length & athleticism)....he's a better screen setter than KAT....they said with DLo & Rubio 48 minutes of elite playmaker on the court...same then for elite pick/pop/roller with JC/KAT.

Probably means we need to shave roughly 15 mil next year there abouts to stay under lux? Beasley starts & plays like last year....Antman develops & replaces him as starter...Nowell becomes our bench/rotation dead-eye shooter. Beasley to NY for expirings & Dal 1st next year...think that keeps us under & we progress...still lots of ifs but there's a reasonable path.

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Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

[Klomp]

Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

It's fine. He'll never appear on an all-defense team, but he doesn't hurt the team.

[KGdaBom]

Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

It's fine. He'll never appear on an all-defense team, but he doesn't hurt the team.

Is he an SF or a PF or those positions don't exist because we play 1-3-1

[Klomp]

Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

It's fine. He'll never appear on an all-defense team, but he doesn't hurt the team.

Is he an SF or a PF or those positions don't exist because we play 1-3-1

He can play any of the three wing spots

[KGdaBom]

It's fine. He'll never appear on an all-defense team, but he doesn't hurt the team.

Is he an SF or a PF or those positions don't exist because we play 1-3-1

He can play any of the three wing spots

I'm being a little sarcastic. I don't see him as an SG. He has a streaky, but decent 3 point stroke. Huge bounce for shot blocking and going to the rim on drives or for Alley Oops. I believe all the doom and gloom over our "Bigs" particularly the PF or Big Wing position is going to prove no big deal. Could we get better? Sure, but I'm fine with what we got.

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We need someone who tries to dunk every single time he gets the ball

[jpatrick]

The facts that we made a big push for Derrick Jones Jr (I assume instead of resigning Juancho), gives me comfort in the fact that the front office probably isn't satisfied with the current roster make up and recognizes we have a huge need for someone capable of guarding larger wings / skilled PFs.

Sounds like it wasn’t just Jones. Rosas went after numerous forwards. Jones, Milsap, Crowder, and Green in free agency. And Gordon, Nance, and Tucker via trade. At least per Jon K.

I think that’s the type of player we need. A rugged, defensive combo forward that can defend on the perimeter and shoot at least a little.

[TheZachAttack]

Is he an SF or a PF or those positions don't exist because we play 1-3-1

He can play any of the three wing spots

I'm being a little sarcastic. I don't see him as an SG. He has a streaky, but decent 3 point stroke. Huge bounce for shot blocking and going to the rim on drives or for Alley Oops. I believe all the doom and gloom over our "Bigs" particularly the PF or Big Wing position is going to prove no big deal. Could we get better? Sure, but I'm fine with what we got.

I think the main point is that traditionally positions were decided based on defensive assignment and the way that Rosas describes it is based on offensive assignment. Effectively, there isn't going to be much difference in offensive role between all of the "wings" in the majority of the Wolves main offensive rotations--especially when we play 5-out.

It's mainly going to be action from KAT (big)/D Lo (ball-handler) at and near the top of the break with wings running around spacing the floor and cutting around those two. That's why mobility, speed, and spacing is important in Rosasian lineups because that's the type of scheme they want to run--whether you agree or disagree with that being the optimal lineup construction.

On defense, KAT will be guarding the rim (big) and D Lo and the wings will be switching around the perimeter... again other than the person guarding the ball-handler (maybe D lo maybe not) at the point of attack... it's really distinctionless on what those other 3 wings are doing because they are all going to be asked to guard on the perimeter and chip in on the defensive glass--again maybe not your preferred scheme...but again really irrelevant for having a conversation about what Wolves lineups will look like because it's what they want to do.

[KGdaBom]

He can play any of the three wing spots

I'm being a little sarcastic. I don't see him as an SG. He has a streaky, but decent 3 point stroke. Huge bounce for shot blocking and going to the rim on drives or for Alley Oops. I believe all the doom and gloom over our "Bigs" particularly the PF or Big Wing position is going to prove no big deal. Could we get better? Sure, but I'm fine with what we got.

I think the main point is that traditionally positions were decided based on defensive assignment and the way that Rosas describes it is based on offensive assignment. Effectively, there isn't going to be much difference in offensive role between all of the "wings" in the majority of the Wolves main offensive rotations--especially when we play 5-out.

It's mainly going to be action from KAT (big)/D Lo (ball-handler) at and near the top of the break with wings running around spacing the floor and cutting around those two. That's why mobility, speed, and spacing is important in Rosasian lineups because that's the type of scheme they want to run--whether you agree or disagree with that being the optimal lineup construction.

On defense, KAT will be guarding the rim (big) and D Lo and the wings will be switching around the perimeter... again other than the person guarding the ball-handler (maybe D lo maybe not) at the point of attack... it's really distinctionless on what those other 3 wings are doing because they are all going to be asked to guard on the perimeter and chip in on the defensive glass--again maybe not your preferred scheme...but again really irrelevant for having a conversation about what Wolves lineups will look like because it's what they want to do.

I'd rather take my chances on the opposing perimeter shooting than play matador as they drive the rim and destroy us on the boards. There should be some sort of balance between the two.

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Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

His on/off court number show the opponent scores less and converts possessions less when he's playing. Whether that's him adding better team or individual defense I don't know. But in early season and then again late season last year the team won more with him and otherwise seemed to compete at a higher level when he was playing.

The only possible big problem with him appears to be staying on the court healthy, or what he considers healthy enough to play. Which could be a big issue.

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Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

His on/off court number show the opponent scores less and converts possessions less when he's playing. Whether that's him adding better team or individual defense I don't know. But in early season and then again late season last year the team won more with him and otherwise seemed to compete at a higher level when he was playing.

The only possible big problem with him appears to be staying on the court healthy, or what he considers healthy enough to play. Which could be a big issue.

I don't believe the time missed from Layman last year was a question of toughness. It very likely was the team at that point just saying what's the point of playing him now. Extra cautiousness of Wolves Management. Possibly tanking.

[Jedzz]

Wow, I like him a lot, watching this highlights. How is his defense?

His on/off court number show the opponent scores less and converts possessions less when he's playing. Whether that's him adding better team or individual defense I don't know. But in early season and then again late season last year the team won more with him and otherwise seemed to compete at a higher level when he was playing.

The only possible big problem with him appears to be staying on the court healthy, or what he considers healthy enough to play. Which could be a big issue.

I don't believe the time missed from Layman last year was a question of toughness. It very likely was the team at that point just saying what's the point of playing him now. Extra cautiousness of Wolves Management. Possibly tanking.

maybe. See the desire to win and compete thread.

[Klomp]

I doubt it would happen, but if we keep adding enough connections for him maybe Nikola Mirotic would want to return to the NBA?

Has played with Rubio, Hernangomez and now Bolmaro. Would only be 30 at the start of next season.

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I doubt it would happen, but if we keep adding enough connections for him maybe Nikola Mirotic would want to return to the NBA?

Has played with Rubio, Hernangomez and now Bolmaro. Would only be 30 at the start of next season.

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Didn't he leave cause he couldn't keep up?

[KGdaBom]

I doubt it would happen, but if we keep adding enough connections for him maybe Nikola Mirotic would want to return to the NBA?

Has played with Rubio, Hernangomez and now Bolmaro. Would only be 30 at the start of next season.

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Didn't he leave cause he couldn't keep up?

Last thing I remember about him is he was good.