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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#801 » by fatlever » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:50 am

confidence - even his injury recovery might be connected
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#802 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:15 am

Always thought his defense was entirely overrated. That summer league game gave me hope for him for years and years. Just didn't workout.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#803 » by BigSlam » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:49 pm

Along with Batum being waived, Spalding is also being waived at the same time.

Making roster spots available for a 2 for 1 trade maybe?
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#805 » by CuseMayne » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:00 pm

BigSlam wrote:Along with Batum being waived, Spalding is also being waived at the same time.

Making roster spots available for a 2 for 1 trade maybe?



Where'd you see that Spalding is also being waived?
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#806 » by BigSlam » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:02 pm

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BigSlam wrote:Along with Batum being waived, Spalding is also being waived at the same time.

Making roster spots available for a 2 for 1 trade maybe?



Where'd you see that Spalding is also being waived?


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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#807 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:07 pm

Let's hold up on calling the Batum waive a bad deal. My guess is they tried to rope a 3rd team with the Celtics and the price was too high. If we can still get some draft capital from Boston in a S&T for Hayward, it might be worth it over the 9M/3 year.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#808 » by yosemiteben » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:12 pm

Never again will my first inclination be that this team is overthinking things or having a bigger picture in mind.
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Post#809 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:14 pm

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And, if we frontload it that means Boston gets a bigger TPE. The TPE amount is the 1st year number. Hopefully they give us a decent return if we help them with this.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#810 » by JMAC3 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:17 pm

BigSlam wrote:Along with Batum being waived, Spalding is also being waived at the same time.

Making roster spots available for a 2 for 1 trade maybe?


Pretty sure after cutting Batum and Spalding we are at 11 roster spots, we still need to sign 4 rookies and we gave away two two way deals already, so that would look like a full roster.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#811 » by amcoolio » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:20 pm

We are so dumb. You waive and stretch when you need to make one last move to win a championship. We just handed out a 3 year/27 million contract for a player who will never play a minute for the franchise. What a travesty.

Now our only hope is a new amnesty provision in the next CBA.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#812 » by yosemiteben » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:36 pm

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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#813 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:37 pm

2 2nds given
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#814 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:38 pm

Would you rather have 9M to spend or 2 future 2nds? If we're still rebuilding, those draft picks matter more imo.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#815 » by amcoolio » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:38 pm

Oh boy, two 2nd round picks. That'll make me feel better.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#816 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:40 pm

amcoolio wrote:Oh boy, two 2nd round picks. That'll make me feel better.


It should
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#817 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:40 pm

These are the 2nds Boston owns, as well as their own.

2021 second round draft pick from Oklahoma City
Oklahoma City's 2021 2nd round pick to Boston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Oklahoma City's obligation to Boston will be extinguished) [Boston-Oklahoma City, 11/19/2020]

2023 second round draft pick from Houston, Dallas or Miami
Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Dallas' 2023 2nd round pick and Miami's 2023 2nd round pick; Boston will receive the more favorable of (i) Houston's 2023 2nd round pick protected for selections 31-32 and (ii) the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Houston will receive the least favorable of the three (via Miami to Dallas; via Memphis' right to swap Dallas or Miami for Houston) (if the Houston pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then Boston will receive the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Houston's obligation to Boston will be extinguished) [Dallas-Miami, 7/7/2017; Dallas-Memphis, 7/8/2019; Houston-Memphis, 2/6/2020; Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020]

2025 second round draft pick from Memphis
Memphis' 2025 2nd round pick to Boston [Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020]
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#818 » by yosemiteben » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:41 pm

316Hornets wrote:Would you rather have 9M to spend or 2 future 2nds? If we're still rebuilding, those draft picks matter more imo.

We can buy a 2nd in any draft for a hell of a lot less than $4.5M in cash, so give me the cap space.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#819 » by 316Hornets » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:42 pm

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Sources: Celtics are sending 2023 and 2024 second-round picks to Charlotte for a conditional 2022 second-round pick to complete Hayward/Hornets trade.
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Re: 2020 Off-season Discussion 

Post#820 » by amcoolio » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:49 pm

It's clear Mitch thinks this team is an East Finals contender as currently construed. Make no sense with the moves they made in free agency.

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