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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1381 » by DickGrayson » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:06 pm

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DickGrayson wrote:Been boxing for over 11 years, I really don't care about the decision like that because this doesn't change the legacy Jones and Tyson left, they are immortalized. I was really impressed with Tyson's stamina. Jones was clinching at every opportunity, but if this was 3 minute rounds, Tyson would of eventually wore Jones out by Round 3-4 because those body shots and just Tyson's presence and his energy in the ring along is tiring to deal with. Imaging taming a bull with your bare hands. Even when Mike doesn't hit Jones, you can see how Tyson leads his weight into Jones to make him work. Tyson was on time with everything he intended. The weird part of all this is that, Tyson seem like he was just fighting at 70%, I know Jones is washed of course....individually Mike impressed me. Maybe I just miss seeing him in the ring because no one carries an aura like him in any sport I've followed.


As for Nate Robinson, he absolutely had no sparring to be fighting like that. I can get 20 guys from my boxing gym in the Bronx right now who can whoop Jake Paul....that was absolutely disgraceful to watch because Jake isn't anything special, he just goes for guys with literally no sparring experience. Reminds me of FouseyTube vs that other habibi from the X who's like 5"2 tall. YouTube personalities should be banned from boxing. This is a stain on the sport. I'm ashamed Nate even wore orange and blue for this. Knicks catch L's even when they're not at the event.



Tyson was taking it easy on Roy...lets be honest here lol. If they were to go full 100% on each other, Tyson would have had tore him up easy.


Also Nate was getting him early...But Paul kept stopping him with the clinch. Getting Nate behind the head/ear really messed him up. If it was a MMA fight between Nate and Paul, nate would have probably dominated him.


"Getting him early" would include Nate actually pushing Jake Paul back and causing some kind of threat. Jake circled around Nate, rushed him down and countered him all at once. Not only Nate's footwork is trash, he's just too anxious and nervous. His shoulders were tight and there was absolutely not threat from his punches.

Nah, Nate has pitty pat punches and literally no power behind his shots. He's not even on an amateur level. Jake Paul is 6"1 and 190 Nate is 5"8 and 180, Nate doesn't have a background in wrestling and grappling.

What got Nate hurt was his reckless lunging with his hands down, throwing momentum into Jake's punches. He made it easy as possible and if Nate tried that in MMA, the same result would happen.

Some people are born fighters, others aren't.

You can tell in Nate's demeanor he doesnt like getting hit, he's not trained to nor it is in his soul. Nate should stay away from combat sports and focus on his basketball career. Be a coach. A scout.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1382 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:57 pm

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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1383 » by j4remi » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:11 pm

Honestly, I have more appreciation for what Tyson was trying to do after the fact than before. The presence of a guy like Badou Jack on the undercard gave a chance to expose the audience to some legit boxing. The Jake Paul side show was what it was, I don't believe Nate took it seriously at all after watching that performance. Nothing about what Paul did impressed me but at least I can tell the kid has done some work. Tyson was in way better shape than I expected and RJJ still worked despite a lot of body work from Tyson (also that ring looked tiny with those two HW's trying to move around in it).

Is that kinda card worth 50 dollars on PPV? I don't really think so. But I think a lot of the target audience would rather have watched that than the Figuieredo and Shevchenko card that I spent 60 dollars on a week prior if I'm being honest. Tyson/RJJ was a nostalgia ride, an entertainment vehicle and an attempt to attract new eyes. I can't be mad at that at all.

In other news, the UFC has lost a ton of main events due to injuries and COVID lately. Chimaev had a rumored positive test but then it turned out that Leon Edwards was the one who got sick. Edwards lost 12 lbs. in 4 days and the fight's been pushed back. Neil Magny offered to step in on short notice but it looks like the UFC still doesn't want to risk Chimaev against that kinda spoiler yet. The Figueiredo vs Moreno PPV is a bunch of fights that got made to replace cancellations but it still looks really good. Also, this weekend we get Hermansson vs Vettori which is a sneaky good fight. OSP is next down and he's always solid but I'd watch for Gabriel Benitez in that third fight slot. Dude has had some fun performances to watch.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1384 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Dec 5, 2020 11:34 pm

Fight night!

Hermanson vs. Vittori in the main event.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1385 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 2:21 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Fight night!

Hermanson vs. Vittori in the main event.


Three fights cancelled today, at least two due to COVID positives. Some nice performances early on, the big guys put on. Ilia had some beautiful combos.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1386 » by Guano » Sun Dec 6, 2020 2:37 am

beautiful work - detonated homies organs.


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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1387 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:28 am

Poor Matt Wiman...that was an ugly KO. Jordan Leavitt with the worst slam KO since Andrade vs Namajunas.
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Post#1388 » by Guano » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:23 am

this card has been wildly entertaining
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1389 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:26 am

Guano wrote:this card has been wildly entertaining


This card has lost a ton of fights, had a gang of fights changed and was feeling thrown together to me...of course it has been absolutely explosive the whole way through.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1390 » by Guano » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:37 am

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Guano wrote:this card has been wildly entertaining


This card has lost a ton of fights, had a gang of fights changed and was feeling thrown together to me...of course it has been absolutely explosive the whole way through.



feels like these free cards are consistently exciting.

i'm more of a casual so I like seeing these guys I've never or rarely heard of scrap.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1391 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:52 am

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This card has lost a ton of fights, had a gang of fights changed and was feeling thrown together to me...of course it has been absolutely explosive the whole way through.



feels like these free cards are consistently exciting.

i'm more of a casual so I like seeing these guys I've never or rarely heard of scrap.


The UFC throwing on so many cards has meant we get to watch a ton of prospects with a lot to prove. The ESPN deal has really been rewarding.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1392 » by Guano » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:57 am

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This card has lost a ton of fights, had a gang of fights changed and was feeling thrown together to me...of course it has been absolutely explosive the whole way through.



feels like these free cards are consistently exciting.

i'm more of a casual so I like seeing these guys I've never or rarely heard of scrap.


The UFC throwing on so many cards has meant we get to watch a ton of prospects with a lot to prove. The ESPN deal has really been rewarding.



it's been a blessing during this quarantine. And i'm a huuuuuuuuuuuge fan of no crowds; love hearing the corners, fighters and the sweet sound of violence.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1393 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:57 am

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Post#1394 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:12 am

Vittori is going to charge out like a rhino.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1395 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:29 am

Guano wrote:
j4remi wrote:
The UFC throwing on so many cards has meant we get to watch a ton of prospects with a lot to prove. The ESPN deal has really been rewarding.



it's been a blessing during this quarantine. And i'm a huuuuuuuuuuuge fan of no crowds; love hearing the corners, fighters and the sweet sound of violence.


I really love hearing the corners myself. Sometimes you can catch the coaches yelling instructions too which is a treat. I do think the crowd has played a key role in my most memorable fights though, so I think there's a bit of a trade off. But the wanna-be analyst in me LOVES it.
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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1396 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:34 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Jamahal Hill baby


Nothing gives me joy quite like watching great body punching. Hill saw OSP's head movement and chewed up the body until he could corner the vet, that's really nice ringcraft from a guy 8 fights into his pro MMA career.
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Post#1397 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:37 am

Vittori stopped throwing leg kicks
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Post#1398 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:41 am

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Re: Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones tomorrow, Smith vs Clark UFC 

Post#1399 » by j4remi » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:43 am

What a great way to close the night. I've got Hermansson fighting for a draw in this fifth and they are TRADING! Vettori has done a hell of a job proving how good he is and Hermansson is just tough as they come.
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Post#1400 » by Guano » Sun Dec 6, 2020 5:49 am

that was such an incredible war. Really didn't expect Vettori to have that second wind coming into the 4th. He also prolly could have finished it in the first if he didn't go for that squeeze.
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