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Wo1verine wrote:I really rather us spend our money on proven players Kim will cost a pretty penny and all we have are projections seems too risky for such an important off-season for us.
StringerBell wrote:Even if mets sign McCann and Springer, DJ stays in NY, and angels grab Bauer, Jays can still trade for Lindor sign Brantley on a much cheaper 2 year deal and still have enough assets to trade for a front end pitcher like Snell.. Here's hoping.
Not in comparison to what established players are in line to get. And decline is a legitimate concern with a lot of other options. Personally, I hope the Jays grab him.vaff87 wrote:Wo1verine wrote:I really rather us spend our money on proven players Kim will cost a pretty penny and all we have are projections seems too risky for such an important off-season for us.
I’m not sure, but I don’t think his expected price is very high in comparison to his projected output.
TORONTO – As the Toronto Blue Jays pursue the top position players available, they’re also staying active on other fronts, including an area they’ve typically sidestepped in recent years: Top-level relief pitching.
Liam Hendriks, widely considered the top reliever available, and left-handed closer Brad Hand are believed to be among their targets, according to industry sources. Signing an elite back-end-of-the-bullpen arm would not prevent the Blue Jays from pursuing top position players, which multiple sources indicate is the club’s current focus.
Other top relievers available in free agency include right-handers Trevor Rosenthal, Blake Treinen (who the Blue Jays tried to sign last winter) and Kirby Yates. Trevor May might have established a baseline when he signed a $15.5-million, two-year deal with the Mets.
The Blue Jays’ relief corps has been thinned out by the departures of Ken Giles, who is recovering from Tommy John surgery, and Anthony Bass, leaving Rafael Dolis and Canadian Jordan Romano as their primary late-game options.
With the stated goal of improving their run prevention, the Blue Jays are sure to add multiple arms to their pitching staff in the coming months.
I_Like_Dirt wrote:Not in comparison to what established players are in line to get. And decline is a legitimate concern with a lot of other options. Personally, I hope the Jays grab him.vaff87 wrote:Wo1verine wrote:I really rather us spend our money on proven players Kim will cost a pretty penny and all we have are projections seems too risky for such an important off-season for us.
I’m not sure, but I don’t think his expected price is very high in comparison to his projected output.
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I mean, Semien is already signed, over 30, and his near MVP season is waaaaaay out of line with his career norms. Last season was within range of his career norms - his near MVP season he had an OPS of .892 and his second highest season in his 8 seasons was .722.Wo1verine wrote:I_Like_Dirt wrote:Not in comparison to what established players are in line to get. And decline is a legitimate concern with a lot of other options. Personally, I hope the Jays grab him.vaff87 wrote:
I’m not sure, but I don’t think his expected price is very high in comparison to his projected output.
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I read 60M perhaps more for Kim, is he really that much better than Semien for example who very likely could be had for cheaper and would provide a nice stopgap until we see our prospects graduate?
Semien was also one year removed from placing 3rd in MVP voting.
Wo1verine wrote:If Springer signs with the Mets and Bauer with the Angels - I'd guess the next route we go would be to try to sign Realmuto and trade one of our catchers in a package for Lindor? Question becomes would Rogers be willing to sign Lindor for 10 years/$250M-$300M?
Schad wrote:Wo1verine wrote:If Springer signs with the Mets and Bauer with the Angels - I'd guess the next route we go would be to try to sign Realmuto and trade one of our catchers in a package for Lindor? Question becomes would Rogers be willing to sign Lindor for 10 years/$250M-$300M?
Signing Realmuto and then trading for -- and extending -- Lindor seems fairly unlikely. We're likely to be quite aggressive this offseason, but I don't think people should be expecting us to go absolutely nuts. That's more than $50m/year in new salary commitments to just two players.
Wo1verine wrote:You are probably correct but even if you add $50M that's only $120M total we have spent has high as 175M i believe.
I just hope we get 1 top player when we spend our money - i'd hate to lose out on everyone and settle for 2nd and 3rd tier players on long-term contracts.
Schad wrote:Wo1verine wrote:You are probably correct but even if you add $50M that's only $120M total we have spent has high as 175M i believe.
I just hope we get 1 top player when we spend our money - i'd hate to lose out on everyone and settle for 2nd and 3rd tier players on long-term contracts.
It's $125m to just 11 players; even if we didn't sign another player above the minimum, we'd be over $130m. Then next year, we have first-year arb for Vlad/Biggio (Bichette doesn't look likely to be Super 2), and we still have other holes to fill. We'd have very little to spend on the rotation going forward, as an example, so we'd have to really hope that Ryu holds up and the kids are lightning.
Spending that much on a couple players is a recipe for setting up the sort of payroll bomb that just annihilated the Red Sox.
Wo1verine wrote:You think it's possible they trade for Lindor and sign maybe couple vets on short-term deals? Say like a Tanaka, Turner or Brantley etc?
Schad wrote:Wo1verine wrote:You think it's possible they trade for Lindor and sign maybe couple vets on short-term deals? Say like a Tanaka, Turner or Brantley etc?
Sure, that's probably more likely. I still think that trading for Lindor is somewhere sort of optimal, though. It's just a lot of resources to devote to acquiring a player that we'll then need to pay enormous sums of money to long after his most productive years.