Pistons vs. Knicks preseason game 2 thread 7 PM

[ByeByeDre]

Yikes, hopefully Jerami Grant is just a little rusty because he looks like hot garbage trying to create offense. I think there is a reason he was a 4th option in Denver....

Grant’s been at the Hookah lounge celebrating his contract every night - I’m sure we’ll get his best sometime in March.

[ByeByeDre]

I'm on the put Grant on the bench and start Sekou as well... or move Blake to the 5 so you can start Sekou and Grant.

Hayes and Sekou should start developing chemistry on the court on a nightly basis right now if we're building for the future.

Two preseason games in and it’s time to bench Grant. Executive of the Year!

[ByeByeDre]

After reading this thread, it’s obvious that two or three posters are on the Pistons payroll. Everyone else has a great feel for what’s going on.

[ducler]

Maledon looks a hell of a lot more ready then Killian scoring the ball. How did he fall so far?

His coach in France didn't played him much as he preferred the veteran US PG he got. That's a big part of why he's been fired by Tony Parker this summer. Knowing that 2 years ago Maledon was projected over Killian, that's understandable: Theo's stock fell a lot due to that lack of playing time and the ASVEL basketball club lost ton of money due to that.

[Moses ShamMoses]

OKC ended up taking Theo Maldeon in the second round. He looks like a steal at 34. Looking at his preseason debut he looks more polished than Killian but not as physically imposing or athletic. I can't imagine this board's vibe if we ended up picking the wrong French point guard lol

[zeebneeb]

Hopefully, Stewart starts getting some of Okafor's playing time soon. We need more his energy and rebounds.

If there is anything you can take away from these preseason games, its that the energy level between plumlee/Okafor compared to Stewart is stark. Stewart is going to make mistakes, but he super active in direct comparison.

I would love to see him get the start for the next game to see how he looks with the rest of the starters.

Hayes
Svi
Sekou
Blake
Stewart

No chance we paid Grant $20 million per year to come off the bench. He and Blake are both guaranteed to start if healthy. Maybe we get lucky and Blake doesn't play B2Bs this year so we can see Sekou starting some games.

we'll see. If Sekou keeps playing like this, it will force Casey's hand. Weaver knows the situation, and if you have to pay 20million for a bench player, so be it.

Of all the additions I have seen to this team, and of the two preseason games, the one that has made the biggest impression is Bey. Multitude of ways to score. Plays tough man to man. Can shoot the hell out of the ball, and, most importantly, is poised out on the floor like he is a 5 years vet.

If this team ever does get back to being relevant in the next few years, he is going to be a big part of it.

As for Grant, you may be right for the first portion of the season, but if Grant states what he is, and other players shine, he's not gonna stick. I feel the same way about the Center position. Effort goes a long way to coaches like Casey. Stewart may end up starting just by virtue of simply caring more.

[Invictus88]

If there is anything you can take away from these preseason games, its that the energy level between plumlee/Okafor compared to Stewart is stark. Stewart is going to make mistakes, but he super active in direct comparison.

I would love to see him get the start for the next game to see how he looks with the rest of the starters.

Hayes
Svi
Sekou
Blake
Stewart

No chance we paid Grant $20 million per year to come off the bench. He and Blake are both guaranteed to start if healthy. Maybe we get lucky and Blake doesn't play B2Bs this year so we can see Sekou starting some games.

we'll see. If Sekou keeps playing like this, it will force Casey's hand. Weaver knows the situation, and if you have to pay 20million for a bench player, so be it.

Of all the additions I have seen to this team, and of the two preseason games, the one that has made the biggest impression is Bey. Multitude of ways to score. Plays tough man to man. Can shoot the hell out of the ball, and, most importantly, is poised out on the floor like he is a 5 years vet.

If this team ever does get back to being relevant in the next few years, he is going to be a big part of it.

As for Grant, you may be right for the first portion of the season, but if Grant states what he is, and other players shine, he's not gonna stick. I feel the same way about the Center position. Effort goes a long way to coaches like Casey. Stewart may end up starting just by virtue of simply caring more.

I get this but if Grant doesn't end up starting then someone is going to have to explain to Tom Gores why he is paying 20 million a year for the next 3 years for a guy who can't crack the starting rotation.

The contract is close to untradeable as it is but if there's any hope of getting value back then the guy has to play well and do it as a starter. He comes off the bench and nobody is going to touch him.

Maybe Gores is really stoned off his gourd all the time and management is basically laughing it up and just doesn't care (might explain some things actually). But if there's any accountability to be had by this management to Gores then Grant would stick out like a sore thumb if he sits.

[pollack419]

I love this team. Here is the great news Killian is STARTING! Our 19 year old PG is starting and looking good. Shot needs work but ball handling, passing and D are on point. Sekou WOW, Bey looking good, Stewart nice energy. Late in the game all 4 were on the court together. Detroit WE ARE PLAYING OUR YOUTH! That's a WIN. Add a high 2021 pick at SG to that mix there is you future starting 5

[Moses ShamMoses]

I love this team. Here is the great news Killian is STARTING! Our 19 year old PG is starting and looking good. Shot needs work but ball handling, passing and D are on point. Sekou WOW, Bey looking good, Stewart nice energy. Late in the game all 4 were on the court together. Detroit WE ARE PLAYING OUR YOUTH! That's a WIN. Add a high 2021 pick at SG to that mix there is you future starting 5

I'm not happy with Stewart only playing a few minutes at the end of games with 3rd stringers. He should be getting reps with the starters and backups to see how he fares. Plumlee and Okafor hasn't exactly been a great center rotation so far.

[2Chainz]

Maledon looks a hell of a lot more ready then Killian scoring the ball. How did he fall so far?

His coach in France didn't played him much as he preferred the veteran US PG he got. That's a big part of why he's been fired by Tony Parker this summer. Knowing that 2 years ago Maledon was projected over Killian, that's understandable: Theo's stock fell a lot due to that lack of playing time and the ASVEL basketball club lost ton of money due to that.

That’s interesting stuff.

[2Chainz]

OKC ended up taking Theo Maldeon in the second round. He looks like a steal at 34. Looking at his preseason debut he looks more polished than Killian but not as physically imposing or athletic. I can't imagine this board's vibe if we ended up picking the wrong French point guard lol

I mean there were 27 other players picked between them so if the Pistons whiffed a lot of others did too. But I’m not even sure if Killian is more athletic or physically imposing. They’re the same size. It’s just one game but Maledon has showed the ability to get into the lane and his jump shot looks cleaner. I haven’t seen killian beat anyone off the bounce yet, that’s problematic.

[MotownMadness]

OKC ended up taking Theo Maldeon in the second round. He looks like a steal at 34. Looking at his preseason debut he looks more polished than Killian but not as physically imposing or athletic. I can't imagine this board's vibe if we ended up picking the wrong French point guard lol

I mean there were 27 other players picked between them so if the Pistons whiffed a lot of others did too. But I’m not even sure if Killian is more athletic or physically imposing. They’re the same size. It’s just one game but Maledon has showed the ability to get into the lane and his jump shot looks cleaner. I haven’t seen killian beat anyone off the bounce yet, that’s problematic.

How's do they compare defensively and passing wise. Killian looks like hes gonna be a stud defender and passer.

[MotownMadness]

But also let's remember these are kids and they could all look much better in 3-4 years so we have to wait and see how they develop and not get caught up over every game. Hell Sekou could still develop into a top 3 player from his draft for all we know down the road, it takes time and every year they grow a bit more.

[Sort]

I get this is a message board where reactionary is the way of the land, but really, people need to hold off on judging Grant. Griffin doesn't want to touch the center spot - which he should - and Grant just isn't a full time three. Given the adjustment of playing for a new team and taking on a larger role and doing so while in a pandemic and not in preferred position, I think throwing him under the bus after two preseason games is too much.

It may not work out - or it may - but we don't have any real answer yet either.

[DBC10]

I get this is a message board where reactionary is the way of the land, but really, people need to hold off on judging Grant. Griffin doesn't want to touch the center spot - which he should - and Grant just isn't a full time three. Given the adjustment of playing for a new team and taking on a larger role and doing so while in a pandemic and not in preferred position, I think throwing him under the bus after two preseason games is too much.

It may not work out - or it may - but we don't have any real answer yet either.

Thing is, we're expected to play him significant minutes just from the contract alone. Not whether or not he has the skills to play above the level he's usually judged at

So that means, he's going to start doing things as if he's Blake Griffin himself like dribbling the ball and or calling his number to isolate. It's just not a great situation for the future when our entire future is based off of these young rookies he accumulate in the next few years

[Rip32]

I'm on the put Grant on the bench and start Sekou as well... or move Blake to the 5 so you can start Sekou and Grant.

Hayes and Sekou should start developing chemistry on the court on a nightly basis right now if we're building for the future.

Two preseason games in and it’s time to bench Grant. Executive of the Year!

The problem with Grant is he's doing shet that he never did in Den. Street ball and going 1-on-1 ain't going to cut it. Sekou is definitely a better player (probably the best player on the Pistons) who can get his pts during the flow of the game. Sekou is highly efficient

[ByeByeDre]

I'm on the put Grant on the bench and start Sekou as well... or move Blake to the 5 so you can start Sekou and Grant.

Hayes and Sekou should start developing chemistry on the court on a nightly basis right now if we're building for the future.

Two preseason games in and it’s time to bench Grant. Executive of the Year!

The problem with Grant is he's doing shet that he never did in Den. Street ball and going 1-on-1 ain't going to cut it. Sekou is definitely a better player (probably the best player on the Pistons) who can get his pts during the flow of the game. Sekou is highly efficient

Unfortunately there are sixty million reasons why Grant will get the minutes though......