So can we cut already stupid little dumb bro and open a roster spot for a real player?

Hellcrooner · Post #1 » by **Hellcrooner** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:41 pm

No dice on big greek.
time to get the trashcan out.

Post #2 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:19 pm

No clue what you are talking about, but I guess I should mention that the squad is so deep we already have issues spreading the minutes.

Ball so hard · Post #3 » by **Ball so hard** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:26 pm

He's talking about cutting Kostas now that Giannis has agreed to sign for the supermax.

Vae Victus · Post #4 » by **Vae Victus** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:40 pm

Is Kostas on a guaranteed or non guaranteed deal? If non-guaranteed, cut him and go get a backup PG. If guaranteed, eh might as well let him stick around and see if he develops into anything, dont think we save any money cutting his ass. Hell maybe we just trade him to MIL for a bag of basketballs. Might as well re-unite the brothers and save some cash.

SlimShady83 · Post #5 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:12 am

Vae Victus wrote:Is Kostas on a guaranteed or non guaranteed deal? If non-guaranteed, cut him and go get a backup PG. If guaranteed, eh might as well let him stick around and see if he develops into anything, dont think we save any money cutting his ass. Hell maybe we just trade him to MIL for a bag of basketballs. Might as well re-unite the brothers and save some cash.

WE got plenty of PG's and guys who can play both spots. I'd rather another SF anyone who can play garbage time

Vae Victus · Post #6 » by **Vae Victus** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:29 am

Lebron and Shroeder are the only players with playmaking ability.

Caruso is NOT a PG, he's a slasher finisher defender, who can barely hit the side of a barn from range, and with utterly woeful playmaking ability.

And that's pretty much it. I'd much rather get an extra vet backup PG, in case Lebron load manages and we kinda want ot have a secondary playmaker to backup Shroeder. It's a long season.

Post #7 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:34 am

I like Kostas... If he aint hurting us, lets get him on the g league team and see what we can develop him into. He's shown flashes.

Beethoven · Post #8 » by **Beethoven** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:14 am

^I don't think we as a franchise , in our whole history , has ever , made a , "has shown flashes" into a meaningful , impactful player.

Either they end up contributing to the team or finding their niche/role within weeks or immediately ....or just find themselves on no-mans land at end of bench , going back and forth from gleague, and end up as trade fodder.
8-)

Lakernut4ever · Post #9 » by **Lakernut4ever** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:42 am

Kilroy wrote:I like Kostas... If he aint hurting us, lets get him on the g league team and see what we can develop him into. He's shown flashes.

Getting blocked by Zubac even if Zu wasn't even jumping in the last preseason game says it all. He nothing special. Get a better guy for the slot.

stan francisco · Post #10 » by **stan francisco** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:31 am

Beethoven wrote:^I don't think we as a franchise , in our whole history , has ever , made a , "has shown flashes" into a meaningful , impactful player.

Either they end up contributing to the team or finding their niche/role within weeks or immediately ....or just find themselves on no-mans land at end of bench , going back and forth from gleague, and end up as trade fodder.

Caruso disagrees. So does THT. I’m on the Kostas train, brother attainable or not.

danfantastk32 · Post #11 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:47 am

Beethoven wrote:^I don't think we as a franchise , in our whole history , has ever , made a , "has shown flashes" into a meaningful , impactful player.

So the elephant in this room (in my opinion) would be Kobe. 15minutes a game his rookie year. 7.6 points, 2boards, 1 assist.

I'd also bring up Fisher. 23minutes...6.3 points, 2boards, 3assists. Oh.....and that was his FOURTH season as a Laker. To further accentuate the point....Fisher played 78 games that season....started 22.

BEazy · Post #12 » by **BEazy** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:19 am

Andrew Bynum says hi.

Beethoven · Post #13 » by **Beethoven** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:29 am

All of them Bynum kobe Fisher tht and Caruso were showing consistent talent and skill and either were contributing to the team in meaningful ways or were being planned upon to be utilized eventually (while they were in gleague > Caruso , tht)

danfantastk32 · Post #14 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:30 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:Andrew Bynum says hi.

F** totally forgot about him. I remember going to a summer-league game (it wasn't called "summer league" at the time, if I remember correctly) over in long-beach. Some weird pyramid place. My buddy and I went to go watch Bynum play. Good times.

Yeah....it took that guy a few years, didn't it.

Still remember that 07-08 season so well. Those 40-50 games before Bynum got hurt (and we got Gasol) were prob my fave games as a Laker fan of all time. The west literally had 10 50-win teams that season. And we were in front. That was the offseason where Kobe demanded a trade. For what it's worth...we got Fisher back. Say what you want about Fisher. I know he's no HoFer....but amazingly, it all 'clicked', didn't it?? God what a great run. Such a bummer Bynum got hurt. We were effin TEARING it up. It was so fun to watch.

Beethoven · Post #15 » by **Beethoven** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:39 am

Bynum was a mental midget

Post #16 » by **Danny Darko** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:11 am

figure out who is more useful between cakecock and Kostas and replace one of them with Pau.

Post #17 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:02 am

Beethoven wrote:^I don't think we as a franchise , in our whole history , has ever , made a , "has shown flashes" into a meaningful , impactful player.

Either they end up contributing to the team or finding their niche/role within weeks or immediately ....or just find themselves on no-mans land at end of bench , going back and forth from gleague, and end up as trade fodder.

Clarkson, Nance, caruso, Zubac, Nick Van Exel, Rony Turiaf, Luke Walton, Tony Smith, Robert Sacre... That's just dudes coming in the second round or later... If you factor in dudes who were 1rps but sucked at first the list grows a lot...

Beethoven · Post #18 » by **Beethoven** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:37 am

What I mean is i guess my definition of "show flashes" . to me it is: i don't see anything ..I don't see anything ..oh wait .. I see a play here ..maybe one occasion per every fourth time he's subbed in or every other other game. Like a wistful hope we have that he'll convert into something useful. A darius Morris or Xavier Henry for instance (sacre too)
I see we all differ on definitions. Nevermind. Not an important topic.

danfantastk32 · Post #19 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:12 am

Beethoven wrote:What I mean is i guess my definition of "show flashes" . to me it is: i don't see anything ..I don't see anything ..oh wait .. I see a play here ..maybe one occasion per every fourth time he's subbed in or every other other game. Like a wistful hope we have that he'll convert into something useful. A darius Morris or Xavier Henry for instance (sacre too)
I see we all differ on definitions. Nevermind. Not an important topic.

I get the gist of what your sayin. The Lakers are not in the 'development' business. Kareem was a trade. Magic and Worthy were #1 picks. Shaq was a trade. Kobe was drafted a little higher, but got penalized for being outa high school. The writing was on the wall with him..we just had to wait a couple years. And then Pau...now Lebron and AD.

I do think there are some guys though. Ariza was a 'streaky' guy, who really became a solid player here in LA. I think we fully developed Fisher. Point is....even though I ultimately agree with the spirit of what your saying, it's been done here. We can develop a player or two now and again.

Post #20 » by **Slava** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:01 am

Both Kostas and Cacok are on two way deals, they aren't taking anyone's roster spot.