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Post#601 » by Gianstoppable » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:37 am

PhoenixMilwauke wrote:Snippet from the ESPN+ article. Interesting stuff
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As the process around Holiday dragged out and the Nov. 18 draft inched closer, the Bucks upped their initial offer of Bledsoe and a couple of first-round draft picks and a future pick swap, eventually reluctantly agreeing to include veteran guard George Hill.

The Bucks endured a long weekend while New Orleans mulled over the offers and, effectively, the direction of their team. Griffin eventually came back with another ask: one more first-round pick and one more pick swap to make for three total first rounders and two swaps. Essentially, New Orleans wanted to control the Bucks' draft for five years, starting in 2020.

This last offer staggered Milwaukee. As the decision-makers discussed it internally, sources said, they knew it was an overpay. They also knew there was the matter of eventually extending Holiday, which is expected to cost in the range of $30 million per season, sources said. But they recognized that not only would it be a tremendous upgrade to their roster but a strong message to the man in Greece, who was waiting to see substantial improvement.

At least they admitted their overpay and it was totally worth it
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Post#602 » by jimmybones » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:46 am

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PhoenixMilwauke wrote:Snippet from the ESPN+ article. Interesting stuff
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As the process around Holiday dragged out and the Nov. 18 draft inched closer, the Bucks upped their initial offer of Bledsoe and a couple of first-round draft picks and a future pick swap, eventually reluctantly agreeing to include veteran guard George Hill.

The Bucks endured a long weekend while New Orleans mulled over the offers and, effectively, the direction of their team. Griffin eventually came back with another ask: one more first-round pick and one more pick swap to make for three total first rounders and two swaps. Essentially, New Orleans wanted to control the Bucks' draft for five years, starting in 2020.

This last offer staggered Milwaukee. As the decision-makers discussed it internally, sources said, they knew it was an overpay. They also knew there was the matter of eventually extending Holiday, which is expected to cost in the range of $30 million per season, sources said. But they recognized that not only would it be a tremendous upgrade to their roster but a strong message to the man in Greece, who was waiting to see substantial improvement.

At least they admitted their overpay and it was totally worth it


And I'm totally fine with the gamble. This is not operating with hindsight, I said I was fine with the gamble as long as they had the balls to tear it down if it didn' work. I'm thrilled we don't have to find out. I think it was almost silly to hold it over Horst that he needed Giannis to confirm 100% he'd sign if they made a move like this. The likely reality is there is no move that could have ensured that instantly and without Giannis needing to do due diligence. Bucks/Horst shot their shot and they won, regardless of how loyal Giannis is. Props where props is due.
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Post#603 » by MikeIsGood » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:47 am

KidA24 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
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Pau.

I though he was traded?


He left LA in free agency.


After he had been traded to LA by Memphis, to be fair.
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Post#604 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:55 am

raferfenix wrote:Interested in how the Bogdan part of The Athletic article connects that fiasco to how Giannis has always “made it clear that he had no interest in being buddy-buddy with stars around the league.”

Despite that he did some recruiting this summer which the Bucks failed to take advantage of in spectacular fashion. I suspect that was discussed plenty at these meetings, and thankfully he was persuaded.

All of which made the Bogdanovic situation so concerning for the Bucks last month.

Losing out on a player in free agency was one thing, but losing a player whom Antetokounmpo was known to have heavily recruited just weeks before this fork-in-the-road moment for the franchise was quite another. It certainly didn’t help matters that it had all been so messy.

The Bucks, of course, believed they had a sign-and-trade lined up with Sacramento for the 28-year-old small forward that came shortly after the Jrue Holiday deal with New Orleans. In terms of the possible ripple effect on Antetokounmpo’s choice, sources say there was extreme confidence within the Bucks at the time that their franchise centerpiece would sign the deal, in part, because of the moves that had been made. But then it all fell apart.

Bogdanovic headed for Atlanta. The NBA launched a tampering investigation into the ordeal, in large part, because news of an alleged agreement had leaked via a news outlet nearly five days before the formal start of free agency. The Bucks knew that none of this would help, but it was tough to tell how much it would hurt.


https://theathletic.com/2263457/2020/12/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-largest-contract-in-nba-history/

Got sad about Bogdan again for the first time in awhile. :(
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Post#605 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 am

Amazing how many people on the GB were actually happy about Giannis resigning here.
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Post#606 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:02 am

Krispy Kreme wrote:
TD75 wrote:From previous threads:

Magic Giannison wrote:I cannot wait the amount of crow people in here are about to eat, we talking a full out banquet here people.


This is dumb. I'm not sure why anyone would eat crow. All anyone was doing was speculating what would happen if he didn't sign. And given that he strung us along for quite awhile, I don't think speculating was unreasonable.

Is it really?

When i was talking about Giannis agent interview in Greece back in the summer and explain why im not worried about Giannis signing the doomsayers instead ignored that and went with the wildest speculations from trashing his personality,calling him out during playoffs, calling him this or that and even asking to be traded...
All this for the guy that took less money on his first extension in order to help us win, claimed many times he loves Milwaukee and how much it mean to him, his agent basically said that Giannis stays but you didn't believed me or any Greek fan promoting this, heck people didnt even believed Voodoo who even got someone inside the team.....

Next time dont be so easy to **** on one constant good our team got and this isnt to you specifically but t all doomsayers around here.
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Post#607 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:04 am

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Krispy Kreme wrote:
TD75 wrote:From previous threads:



This is dumb. I'm not sure why anyone would eat crow. All anyone was doing was speculating what would happen if he didn't sign. And given that he strung us along for quite awhile, I don't think speculating was unreasonable.

Is it really?

When i was talking about Giannis agent interview in Greece back in the summer and explain why im not worried about Giannis signing the doomsayers instead ignored that and went with the wildest speculations from trashing his personality,calling him out during playoffs, calling him this or that and even asking to be traded...
All this for the guy that took less money on his first extension in order to help us win, claimed many times he loves Milwaukee and how much it mean to him, his agent basically said that Giannis stays but you didn't believed me or any Greek fan promoting this, heck people didnt even believed Voodoo who even got someone inside the team.....

Next time dont be so easy to **** on one constant good our team got and this isnt to you specifically but t all doomsayers around here.

I mean don't take this personally but you haven't exactly been very convincing as an objective observer when it comes to Giannis :D
Which is how we like you anyway :D
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Post#608 » by HKPackFan » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:06 am

I've been sending Giannis gifs and the bucks "I love Milwaukee" video to all the basketball ball fans I have that message me about the bucks... Some of them that used to tell me he's leaving... Oh man this has been a fun morning.



Edit: and literally as I typed this on the bus a girl accidentally played, 'I'm coming home..' song.

So fitting.
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Post#609 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:12 am

Pachinko_ wrote:I mean don't take this personally but you haven't exactly been very convincing as an objective observer when it comes to Giannis :D
Which is how we like you anyway :D

Im not don't worry.

Im not objective when it comes to GIannis and i know that better than anyone but at the same time that doesn't mean that i cannot convey some things about him correctly especially since knowing his character.

Especially that Saratsis interview screamed about Giannis staying....
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Post#610 » by raferfenix » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:13 am

PhoenixMilwauke wrote:But they recognized that not only would it be a tremendous upgrade to their roster but a strong message to the man in Greece, who was waiting to see substantial improvement.


Curious about the extent to which Holiday was a definitive move that persuaded Giannis to stay.

Either way the message was certainly received.
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Post#611 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:26 am

Magic Giannison wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:I mean don't take this personally but you haven't exactly been very convincing as an objective observer when it comes to Giannis :D
Which is how we like you anyway :D

Im not don't worry.

Im not objective when it comes to GIannis and i know that better than anyone but at the same time that doesn't mean that i cannot convey some things about him correctly especially since knowing his character.

Especially that Saratsis interview screamed about Giannis staying....

The most important thing, and I'm sure all Bucks fans here can confirm, is that your English has improved tremendously since you first joined!
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Post#612 » by HKPackFan » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:30 am

I know I'm coming late to the party, but did I miss the violent masturbation already?
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Post#613 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:36 am

HKPackFan wrote:I know I'm coming late to the party, but did I miss the violent masturbation already?

All done, mind your step
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Post#614 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:36 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Amazing how many people on the GB were actually happy about Giannis resigning here.


The alternative was him going somewhere with better talent and the balance of the league being screwed for the next half-decade. Lotta thrilled fans across the league for sure.
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Post#615 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:38 am

Been a while since I watched this. ****.




Here ya go...

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Post#616 » by IrishRainbow » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:47 am

galena wrote:
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Perishable517 wrote:Mayday!

Sent from my HTC U11 using RealGM mobile app


I am old enough to remember when The Bucks dealt Avent to The Magic.
haha AnthonyvAvent?


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Post#617 » by JimmyTheKid » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:50 am

Giannis needs to be playing significantly more minutes this year. Regular season and postseason. I hope a coach, who is undoubtedly on the hot seat, agrees.
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Post#618 » by RogerMurdock » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:59 am

VooDoo7 wrote:Been a while since I watched this. ****.


Thanassis can stay forever.
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Post#619 » by ajb905 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:00 am

PhoenixMilwauke wrote:Snippet from the ESPN+ article. Interesting stuff
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As the process around Holiday dragged out and the Nov. 18 draft inched closer, the Bucks upped their initial offer of Bledsoe and a couple of first-round draft picks and a future pick swap, eventually reluctantly agreeing to include veteran guard George Hill.

The Bucks endured a long weekend while New Orleans mulled over the offers and, effectively, the direction of their team. Griffin eventually came back with another ask: one more first-round pick and one more pick swap to make for three total first rounders and two swaps. Essentially, New Orleans wanted to control the Bucks' draft for five years, starting in 2020.

This last offer staggered Milwaukee. As the decision-makers discussed it internally, sources said, they knew it was an overpay. They also knew there was the matter of eventually extending Holiday, which is expected to cost in the range of $30 million per season, sources said. But they recognized that not only would it be a tremendous upgrade to their roster but a strong message to the man in Greece, who was waiting to see substantial improvement.


Backing up the Brinks truck without Giannis agreeing to sign blows me away, not in a good way. I don't give them any credit for realizing it was an overpay. It potentially could of went down as the worst trade in league history. Giannis signed and it doesn't look so bad. But the desperation of that move...that they felt they had to trade everything that wasn't tied down is disappointing in so many ways.


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