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WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1

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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#162 » by HiRez » Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:25 am

michaelm wrote:During that one game he showed signs of having a viable jumpshot as a 7 foot tall 19 year old. Ben Simmons hasn't done that in 4 years.

Yeah, the jumpshot is huge, probably the most important thing in that game. He actually made a lot of mistakes, looked lost at times, and too tentative in others. That's not a criticism, that's just expected first game rookie stuff. But what we saw is that he already has a jumpshot that is more advanced than most people suspected: smoother and with more range. That's got big implications for the rest of his game and his usefulness to the team. I'm not sold until I see him do it more and with consistency. But it's very encouraging. I expected a lot from Wiseman and if anything I'm even more encouraged after 1 game.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#163 » by ShayDee » Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:07 am

Wiseman still has alot to learn, specifically on the feel aspect of the game. The team needs to trust passing him the ball in the post and he needs to make plays for the offense when other players cut and the defense breaks down. We didn't do that once? Last game? Like assists from him is very very bad. I'd rather he become a passing big early than a scoring one, because He isn't going to get many scoring opportunities here. He has the intelligence to learn to pass

Maybe at least 2 assists next game would be a good start
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Post#164 » by Mylie10 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:31 am

Wiseman has a lot to learn..NEWSFLASH!
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Post#166 » by Quazza » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:12 pm

We really got one here, guys
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Post#167 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:10 am

....going up...game by game :)
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Post#168 » by GswStorm3 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:12 am

Quazza wrote:We really got one here, guys


Indeed.

I certainly wasn't expecting his outside shot to look this good. He's 4-5 from 3. AD didn't become confident in his 3pt shot until his fourth season.
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Post#169 » by Old_Blue » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:18 am

Offense: Way better than expected. Defense: Not quite as good as advertised.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

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Post#171 » by Warriors Analyst » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:02 am

I was a vocal Wiseman skeptic. I'm impressed so far. His defense is still mostly a mess as is to be expected. But he's so insanely athletic that he can make up for some of his mistakes and he's not a total klutz so he doesn't carom out of control and foul people when he's trying to make a late rotation.

What encourages me most about Wiseman right now are his jumper and his ability to make adjustments. The jumper looks like defenders will genuinely have to close out on him. I don't think that the shot form lends itself to off the dribble creation, which would be the holy grail unicorn stuff of dreams, but a guy with his size that can shoot is a plus offensively. In the Brooklyn game, I thought Wiseman was setting really weak screens. He barely made contact and wasn't really freeing up anyone in PNR or on pindowns. Lo and behold, today he was putting his full body into the screens and made it hard for defenders to scamper around him.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#172 » by SF_Warriors » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:11 am

Probably the lone bright spot after the first couple of games. The shooting has been surprising, that he could be a stretch big right out of the gate as even a remote possibilty was completely unexpected, even from a supporter of his pre draft.

Not sure what I expected from him defensively this season, but highlight blocks were one of them. Looks like we will be getting big doses of those.

Overall, happy with where hes at atm.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#173 » by Mylie10 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:58 am

He’s gonna be a DPOY candidate in a few years. He’s smart...like really smart.

Once the team...and him.. get the rotations down, he’lol be amazing on that end.

He’s making the occasional difficult block. Once he is able to understand where to be, he can get his feet right in order to maximize his leap. Several times already he has barely put the ball on after a catch, and barely got into position for a block these first few games.

And eventually he’s going to not have to think about where to he and what’s happening around him.
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Post#174 » by Mac1958 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:10 pm

Watching this kid play, I'm trying to temper my expectations and excitement.

But holy crap. Based on his few minutes on the floor so far, it ain't easy.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#175 » by lars_rosenberg » Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:28 pm

Old_Blue wrote:Offense: Way better than expected. Defense: Not quite as good as advertised.


This reminds me of KAT. I remember the discussion on who should be drafted first between him and Okafor was all about the fact that KAT was a defensive player with some shooting range, while Okafor was the offensive monster with poor defense.
In the end Towns is actually much better on offense than he is on defense and a much better offensive player than Okafor.
I hope Wiseman becomes much better than Towns on the defensive end, I don't care if he doesn't match KAT offensive skills.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#176 » by wco81 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:33 pm

12/7.5/3.5 assists, 1.3 blocks per game, 52% shooting (if he's going to keep taking 3s rather than all shots in the paint.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#177 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:57 pm

If you think he looks good now...just wait until the tic tac to action with Curry and Draymond at the top....Draymond will drive down the middle off that hand off and it's going to be lob city to DR2.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#178 » by Little Digger » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Wiseman will be at least a top10 player ..and seeing how quickly he improves, it won’t take him very long
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#179 » by wco81 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:55 pm

Geez ...
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#180 » by Hoopstar23 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:31 pm

Wiseman looks like a major problem!!! if hes bringing the ball up like that...then hes a very very scary player!

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