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Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83

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Sweater Vest No. 5

Poll ended at Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:26 am

Gordon: 24 PTS, 11 REB, 9-17 FG, 6-9 3PT
32
71%
Vucevic: 23 PTS, 8 REB, 2 STL, 3 BLK, 9-16 FG, 2-5 3PT
7
16%
Birch: 12 PTS, 12 REB, 5-7 FG, 2-2 FT
0
No votes
Fultz: 6 PTS, 5 REB, 8 AST, +11
0
No votes
Anthony: 9 PTS, 5 REB, 4 AST, +14
2
4%
Ross: 15 PTS, 4 STL, +10
0
No votes
Bamba: Being Alive
4
9%
 
Total votes: 45

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#21 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:39 pm

So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#22 » by Knightro » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:45 pm

p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I mean...

Gordon had more points, more rebounds, made more threes and consistently played better defense over the course of the whole game than Vucevic too.

So no :lol:
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#23 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:47 pm

Knightro wrote:
p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I mean...

Gordon had more points, more rebounds, made more threes and consistently played better defense over the course of the whole game than Vucevic too.

So no :lol:


That was general observation, not entirely based on this particular game thread.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#24 » by zaymon » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:29 pm

Knightro wrote:
p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I mean...

Gordon had more points, more rebounds, made more threes and consistently played better defense over the course of the whole game than Vucevic too.

So no :lol:

He had 1 more point, 3 more rebounds ( two of which were double offensive rebounds after own miss). Vucevic had 1 more assist, 1 more steal, 3 more blocks, 2 less turnovers, 1 less fouls and twice as good +/-.






Cavaliers not even bothered to defend Gordon most of the time while Vucevic hitting some crazy shots and even driving to the rim. You can even see Gordon being beating off the dribble and Vucevic covering him on defense ( rarely happens, but we talk about this game). When you watch the film its not even close.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#25 » by JBSouthpaw » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:47 pm

zaymon wrote:
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zaymon wrote:Btw Vucevic was better than Gordon. Gordon hit some catch and shoots 3s, did his usual dumb shots and turnovers and was good on defense while Vucevic did everything on offense while having his best defensive game of the year. Numbers are better with Vucevic, eye test was better with Vucevic, clearly AG vest as usual.


Gordon also had 6 offensive rebounds and was a double-double player this game. I think it is the rebounding and 3-ball that is why Gordon will win this over Vučević.

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He had 6 offensive rebounds becouse he rebounded of misses of his offensive rebounds. Dont get me wrong he had a great game, second best player tonight on our team.


at the 9 minute mark of the 3rd Q, we were down 53-54, AG made our next 5 FGs (3 3pters), only other score was the Tec Vuc made.
Score was 67-59 at the end of that run.

THAT is why AG gets the vest.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#26 » by Tarheel » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:53 pm

p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I meant it more as an explanation of why I think people vote a certain way, rather than how you should approach who you think made the best contribution on any given game was.

FWIW I think AG's outside shooting won us this particular game, which is why I voted for him.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#27 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jan 5, 2021 4:52 pm

Knightro wrote:
p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I mean...

Gordon had more points, more rebounds, made more threes and consistently played better defense over the course of the whole game than Vucevic too.

So no :lol:

AG caught fire at the right time and, outside of getting burned my Cedi Osaman in the first, played good defense and well deserving of the vest. but I thought Vooch did a good job on Drummond. Over the course of the game he had three blocks, 2 steals, knocked the ball out of AD's hands a couple times in the post. Easily should have more votes than he does. AG wasn't THAT much better it was just more memorable because he rarely ever gets that hot especially from 3 and his timing was impeccable.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#28 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 5, 2021 7:11 pm

Tarheel wrote:
p0peye wrote:So, this thread is not about who the best player in a game was, but more about who we support and reward for making progress?


I meant it more as an explanation of why I think people vote a certain way, rather than how you should approach who you think made the best contribution on any given game was.

FWIW I think AG's outside shooting won us this particular game, which is why I voted for him.


Right, that is what I am saying. Evan had a great game couple of weeks ago and didn't get the vest (it is co-shared, but whatever). This thread is more indicative of where we are as fans, pushing agendas or personal favorites, instead of celebrating that our team has won the game.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#29 » by SOUL » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:38 pm

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#30 » by BDill012 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:41 pm

Gordon's third quarter was the difference. Got to go with Gordon.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#31 » by MagicHolland » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:57 pm

Overall Vuc is our MVP, also our most consistent player. This game I’m going with AG, I thought he was difference in the deciding 3rd quarter.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83 

Post#32 » by drsd » Wed Jan 6, 2021 8:52 am

MagicHolland wrote:Overall Vuc is our MVP, also our most consistent player. This game I’m going with AG, I thought he was difference in the deciding 3rd quarter.



NBA.com is running a story with this question:
Has Nikola Vucevic Been the NBA’s Best Center So Far This Season?

The simple answer is: No. It is Nikola Jokić. But one would have to say that Vučević has been the best Easter Center. Some might argue for Embiid, but I think the Magician's ridiculous 3-ball stat line is a tie-breaker for me.

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