The Official Cunningham vs Suggs Thread #Tank4Either

[Mark_83]

AD in college was 6’10” with a 7’6” wingspan, 220 lbs

Mobley is 7’ with a 7’5” wingspan, 215 lbs

Physically they are very close. Talent wise I could see it but still to be seen. An intriguing prospect for sure

Don't forget though that AD was a guard up until about his junior year of high school when he had a growth spurt. He had guard skills and coordination. Mobley, as far as I know, has always been a big.

[Bruin]

AD in college was 6’10” with a 7’6” wingspan, 220 lbs

Mobley is 7’ with a 7’5” wingspan, 215 lbs

Physically they are very close. Talent wise I could see it but still to be seen. An intriguing prospect for sure

Don't forget though that AD was a guard up until about his junior year of high school when he had a growth spurt. He had guard skills and coordination. Mobley, as far as I know, has always been a big.

Yeah that’s true. Although he hasn’t had guard experience though, Mobley still looks pretty damn fluid for his size and looks like a pretty good playmaker. Seems to see the floor pretty nicely too. He’s probably the biggest project out of the top 5 guys but his potential is really high

[Bruin]

Mobley is about to play against Arizona in about 5 minutes btw. And Suggs is playing right now

[tdotrep2]

Mobley is about to play against Arizona in about 5 minutes btw. And Suggs is playing right now

tel us how thye do

[Bruin]

Mobley is about to play against Arizona in about 5 minutes btw. And Suggs is playing right now

tel us how thye do

Watched the first half of Mobley. He needs to be a lot more aggressive in getting the ball. Only has 1 field goal made so far but made 5 free throws. He had a nice drive that caught my eye where he caught the ball at the top of the key on an inbounds and drove in hard to attack the rim and tried to dunk on someone but got fouled. He moves really well but needs to be more assertive

His team doesn’t seem to utilize him very well to find him in the right spots.

Defensively he alters a lot of shots at the rim. Even if he’s not getting the block, he’s forcing misses and putting a lot of pressure.

[Metallikid]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

[JShuttlesworth]

If we finish 10th (for example) and win the play in games, do we get a lottery pick or do we get the pick as if we finished 8th?

[Bruin]

Mobley finished the game with 19 and 10

[Morse Code]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

Especially if we trade them all for Nikola Vucevic lol

[Metallikid]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

Especially if we trade them all for Nikola Vucevic lol

I don't hear any bets being proposed.

[HoopAndTheHarm]

Has anyone seen the high school kid who has yet to commit for next year, Chet Holmgren? Rated #1 high school recruit by ESPN and just about everyone else.
7'1" 195 (I think that's being generous on the weight). Makes Shawn Bradley and Manute Bol look like linebackers.

[God Squad]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

I'd be willing to take that bet. Where do you see the raptors ranked or record at the end of the season.

[Metallikid]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

I'd be willing to take that bet. Where do you see the raptors ranked or record at the end of the season.

I see them being around .500%. That's nowhere near a top 5 pick.

[God Squad]

You guys are sad. I'll bet anyone here we will not get a top 5 pick.

I'd be willing to take that bet. Where do you see the raptors ranked or record at the end of the season.

I see them being around .500%. That's nowhere near a top 5 pick.

Being .500 makes you happy as a Raptor fan? I'll take the bet because I see moves being made to make sure we bottom out and if we don't make moves I just see a lackluster roster without any cohesion.

[T-d0t]

I'd be willing to take that bet. Where do you see the raptors ranked or record at the end of the season.

I see them being around .500%. That's nowhere near a top 5 pick.

Being .500 makes you happy as a Raptor fan? I'll take the bet because I see moves being made to make sure we bottom out and if we don't make moves I just see a lackluster roster without any cohesion.

I think Raptors FO will not let this team be .500

They are letting this play out right now but I would bet that players on this team are going to start being showcased and eventually traded.

[Mr. Perfect]

AD in college was 6’10” with a 7’6” wingspan, 220 lbs

Mobley is 7’ with a 7’5” wingspan, 215 lbs

Physically they are very close. Talent wise I could see it but still to be seen. An intriguing prospect for sure

Don't forget though that AD was a guard up until about his junior year of high school when he had a growth spurt. He had guard skills and coordination. Mobley, as far as I know, has always been a big.

No comparison between the two. AD was the best big man prospect since Tim Duncan. He straight up dominated from day 1 and led Kentucky to a national title. Mobley looks like a project for sure, still maybe 2-3 years way.

[tecumseh18]

I see them being around .500%. That's nowhere near a top 5 pick.

Being .500 makes you happy as a Raptor fan? I'll take the bet because I see moves being made to make sure we bottom out and if we don't make moves I just see a lackluster roster without any cohesion.

I think Raptors FO will not let this team be .500

They are letting this play out right now but I would bet that players on this team are going to start being showcased and eventually traded.

Oh, I'm quite sure the showcasing has already started. But it won't be for better players/superstars, unless Houston decides they'll take Lowry + picks back for Harden.

Now, as Masai well knows, it's hard to predict the results of trade. The Rudy Gay trade could easily have been a tank move (Colangelo certainly thought so at the time), but it gave us a bench and cleared the way for an efficient offence led by DeMar and Kyle (and JV). It's at least possible that trading Kyle for spare parts and picks would have a similar effect, and end up being a net benefit (the Raps were 12-2 without Kyle last season).

[Marty_Budda]

Being .500 makes you happy as a Raptor fan? I'll take the bet because I see moves being made to make sure we bottom out and if we don't make moves I just see a lackluster roster without any cohesion.

I think Raptors FO will not let this team be .500

They are letting this play out right now but I would bet that players on this team are going to start being showcased and eventually traded.

Oh, I'm quite sure the showcasing has already started. But it won't be for better players/superstars, unless Houston decides they'll take Lowry + picks back for Harden.

Now, as Masai well knows, it's hard to predict the results of trade. The Rudy Gay trade could easily have been a tank move (Colangelo certainly thought so at the time), but it gave us a bench and cleared the way for an efficient offence led by DeMar and Kyle (and JV). It's at least possible that trading Kyle for spare parts and picks would have a similar effect, and end up being a net benefit (the Raps were 12-2 without Kyle last season).

I don’t think we play better without Kyle though. Gay’s efficiency was terrible on high volume and he wasn’t really a great defender. Kyles the exact opposite. And his plus minus stats show it.

I think if we trade Kyle for picks and lesser players (and I think we should) it’ll be a huge indicator that the FO is looking to tank this year.

[tecumseh18]

I think Raptors FO will not let this team be .500

They are letting this play out right now but I would bet that players on this team are going to start being showcased and eventually traded.

Oh, I'm quite sure the showcasing has already started. But it won't be for better players/superstars, unless Houston decides they'll take Lowry + picks back for Harden.

Now, as Masai well knows, it's hard to predict the results of trade. The Rudy Gay trade could easily have been a tank move (Colangelo certainly thought so at the time), but it gave us a bench and cleared the way for an efficient offence led by DeMar and Kyle (and JV). It's at least possible that trading Kyle for spare parts and picks would have a similar effect, and end up being a net benefit (the Raps were 12-2 without Kyle last season).

I don’t think we play better without Kyle though. Gay’s efficiency was terrible on high volume and he wasn’t really a great defender. Kyles the exact opposite. And his plus minus stats show it.

I think if we trade Kyle for picks and lesser players (and I think we should) it’ll be a huge indicator that the FO is looking to tank this year.

It's not Kyle's fault, but having a small guard lineup when the rest of the league is loading up on big guards and wings who can shoot the 3 is a recipe for disaster. They just shoot over us. If Lonzo Ball is a dead-eye 3-point shooter, then the Raps are gonna lose to the Pels every damn time.

Lowry is still a plus player, although he is declining. But Lowry + Fred is not a plus lineup, especially (it seems) late in games.

[Marty_Budda]

Oh, I'm quite sure the showcasing has already started. But it won't be for better players/superstars, unless Houston decides they'll take Lowry + picks back for Harden.

Now, as Masai well knows, it's hard to predict the results of trade. The Rudy Gay trade could easily have been a tank move (Colangelo certainly thought so at the time), but it gave us a bench and cleared the way for an efficient offence led by DeMar and Kyle (and JV). It's at least possible that trading Kyle for spare parts and picks would have a similar effect, and end up being a net benefit (the Raps were 12-2 without Kyle last season).

I don’t think we play better without Kyle though. Gay’s efficiency was terrible on high volume and he wasn’t really a great defender. Kyles the exact opposite. And his plus minus stats show it.

I think if we trade Kyle for picks and lesser players (and I think we should) it’ll be a huge indicator that the FO is looking to tank this year.

It's not Kyle's fault, but having a small guard lineup when the rest of the league is loading up on big guards and wings who can shoot the 3 is a recipe for disaster. They just shoot over us. If Lonzo Ball is a dead-eye 3-point shooter, then the Raps are gonna lose to the Pels every damn time.

Lowry is still a plus player, although he is declining. But Lowry + Fred is not a plus lineup, especially (it seems) late in games.

I get where you’re coming from and I kind of agree. However to me that small backcourt of Fred and Kyle is still better than what it would be if we trade Kyle and plug in norm or if we trade for anyone that’s not a superstar.

We were the second seed last year with that back court and on pace to win 60. Against most teams the backcourt is fine. But it’s against long teams like Boston and philly that they have problems.

The main reason we’re 1-6 this season is the horrible center rotation we have. I don’t think there’s any way we improve if we trade Kyle unless a superstar comes our way.