Marty_Budda wrote:Steelo Green wrote:Marty_Budda wrote:
Bro you’ve said this 100 times over and nobody agrees with you. Maybe it’s time to let go.
Lots have agreed (not that I care either way, again people really care about rgm clout lol).
Where is that winning culture right now?
No more title afterglow and Kyle aging, looks like we are just a 7-11 team.
You need great players to win, not a winning culture, who knew.
The same people quoting Atlanta 07-17 are a failure are the same ones who say we are a success.
If Atlanta had won a championship in that time you’d have a point. But they don’t so that’s why people don’t agree with you. Not because if realgm clout lol. At the end of the day that’s what it’s all about. Winning the final prize. Yet you think okc had it better with Durant even though they won nothing. If you ask any Atlanta or okc fan - “ hey what 7 year run do you prefer. Yours or the raptors?”. Most will say raptors. It’s like saying the Detroit pistons and the Indiana pacers in the early 2000s were similar. It’s ridiculous.
You say culture doesn’t matter? Every champion ever has had winning culture. Lakers last year had winning culture..aka lebron. Gsw have winning culture holding everyone accountable. Spurs had culture. You know who didn’t have winning culture? The okc thunder you love so much. Nobody put Westbrook in check and told him what he needed to do to win. But they sure had talent...congrats to them.
Only thing I agree on is you need mvp level talent to win it all.
We won a title on the biggest exception to the exception and now everyone has this hubris like everything around it including the Demar years were key.
They weren't, they literally meant nothing. We just got Kawhi for pennies on the dollar and he went back to MVP form.
People use these black and white images of what happened and post facto change of the guard because we won the title. Winning the title doesn't eliminate the no years of contending pre-Kawhi, it's called breaking the chain of causation. Now all of a sudden the Demar years were key?
Again - plenty of people agree with me, but that is irrelevant, I don't care to be liked or agreed with here, I go by what I see. Or do you want to go through all my posts of people agreeing / disagreeing like the people have done lately.
Lakers had a winning culture? No they had Lebron. Lebron is a contender wherever he goes. Come on. You can't compare our winning culture to Lebron.
GSW had superstars...
Spurs had superstars..
OKC had superstars...
What do we have right now?
Seriously, do we have a superstar, and were the Demar and Kyle years ever a contender? Answer is they never were and now Kawhi coming via trade made all those years worth it, and it's hilarious to see people changing their tune.
Kawhi didn't teach anyone anything it seems. People want to repeat the Demar years and sit and wonder when another Kawhi is on the table like that. Oh look Harden was dealt for 7 years of picks. Yeah, the Kawhi deal is definitely replicable
Honestly, people have distorted history to give Masai credit now and I can't stop laughing.
Tell me - what is your plan? Sit and keep winning culture to do what exactly? Trade 7 years of picks to get a Harden level player even though the team around it isn't good enough to compete?
Please - tell me your plan.