The Official Cunningham vs Suggs Thread #Tank4Either

[RaptorPride]

I’m thinking our reputation of development is starting to affect our image and making a bunch of prospects wanting to play for us knowing they’d be situated for success

Seems to be true. Just look at the top 5 teams in the lottery right now. Who would honestly want to go to those teams. We are the team all these guys want to get drafted by.

[ItsDanger]

Cade reminds me Paul George style wise.

[baller16]

Are we sure suggs isn't the better prospect and we're not being biased because of cades physical attributes? Suggs seems to have the better per 36 numbers on lower usage. A lot of his advanced numbers look better than cades too (Although im not extremely fluent in advanced stats and don't know where to discount or factor in the talent levels on their teams)

Cade's splits are extremely similar to Tatum right now, advanced splits as well but I wouldn't put too much stock into college stats. I think scouts put more emphasis on ball IQ, size, athleticism, potential, etc.

[Son Goku 25]

Unless he's Jason kidd I want a dynamic wing or a dynamic player who is tall and has length.

[Reeko]

Unless he's Jason kidd I want a dynamic wing or a dynamic player who is tall and has length.

Nobody in the top 5 is short. Suggs is the shortest and he's 6'4.

[Mark_83]

I’m thinking our reputation of development is starting to affect our image and making a bunch of prospects want to play for us knowing they’d be situated for success

Also I think outside of the weather, Toronto has becoming that kind of trendy, "hipster cool" city to like now. But liking the team and the city needs to actually result in guys wanting to come here before I get excited. You can like a team and cheer for it from far away.

[T-d0t]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

[BoyzNTheHood]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

[Jcity08]

Im starting to warm up to Mobley because he's a 3 level scorer and can make plays at a 7 foot package. I wouldn't be mad if we end up with that kid tbh.

[Psubs]

Im starting to warm up to Mobley because he's a 3 level scorer and can make plays at a 7 foot package. I wouldn't be mad if we end up with that kid tbh.

He could be a taller version of Bosh!

[d00lttle]

Im starting to warm up to Mobley because he's a 3 level scorer and can make plays at a 7 foot package. I wouldn't be mad if we end up with that kid tbh.

He could be a taller version of Bosh!

My comp would be Anthony Davis lite or CB4 with defense.

[Reeko]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

[Psubs]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

Exactly. Maybe they become Kelly Oubre like players.

I want a big if outside the top 5.

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Is he like a poor man's Chet Holmgren with less guard skills?

[Reeko]

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

Exactly. Maybe they become Kelly Oubre like players.

I want a big if outside the top 5.

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Is he like a poor man's Chet Holmgren with less guard skills?

From what I'm hearing about Chet, I doubt it, he's supposed to be the second coming of KD. Here's a good breakdown of his game:

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Outside of the top 5 there are still a lot of really good wing prospects like Moses Moody, Josh Christopher, James Bouknight, Scottie Barnes, Terrence Shannon Jr and Greg Brown. Brown and Barnes are both SF/PF.

If we're looking at bigs ie PF/C, then it's guys like Bassey, Garuba and Roko Prkacin. I've seen Bassey projected to go in the lottery in some places and in the 2nd round in others. I think there are some really interesting bigs that we could get in the second round like Olivier Sarr out of Kentucky, and Drew Timme out of Gonzaga.

[Psubs]

If outside the top 10, say 15, I'd like to trade down for 2 late 1st picks.

Imagine Kai Jones and Jay Huff. Would they whiff on both? Kai would take 2-3 years to join the rotation while Huff may be more useful than Len or Baynes right away.

I noted Huff last year but he went back to school.

0:44 - lob 2 hand reverse jam!
1:08 - lob 4 feet from the bucket like Lebron!
7:19 - fake the 3, 1 dribble 2 steps KABOOM! Looks like Giannis on that move.

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Though only 11 games is shooting FT's over 80% and shooting 3's over 40% on 2.8 attempts per game!

Porzingis 2.0! Maybe Tyson Chandler / Porzingis!!!

[Badonkadonk]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

These are useful comments. That's the range I've been looking at.

Love it or hate it, this team is not going to miss the play-in round. Ppl getting excited for Mobley (my top prospect) or Cade are in for some massive disappointment.

[720]

How is Minnesota this ass?!

Towns keeps missing games. Now that he has covid that's another two weeks of losing.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Assuming we do draft mid or late lottery, James Bouknight, Jaden Springer, Usman Garuba, Moses Moody and Scottie Barnes all look promising

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

I will admit, the hype around Ziaire still confuses me a bit but I will give him more chances to impress me. As for Boston, it's no secret that UK prospects look mediocre while they're at school but blow up when given a chance in the NBA. For both of these kids to be 6'7"+ with those handles and skills bodes well for their NBA futures if developed properly.

[Reeko]

I would add Daishen Nix, RJ Nembhard and BJ Boston to that list. To say Boston has struggled would be an understatement, but he shows flashes that impress me.

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

I will admit, the hype around Ziaire still confuses me a bit but I will give him more chances to impress me. As for Boston, it's no secret that UK prospects look mediocre while they're at school but blow up when given a chance in the NBA. For both of these kids to be 6'7"+ with those handles and skills bodes well for their NBA futures if developed properly.

I'm not sure who you're referring to as looking mediocre.

Murray: 20ppg, 5rpg, 2apg on 45/41/78
Booker: 10ppg, 2rpg, 1apg on 47/41/82
Herro: 14ppg, 5rpg, 3 apg on 46/36/94

Booker was playing on a stacked team and coming off the bench thus his stats don't look as good, but he was killing it whenever he was out there, playing with Tyler Ulis.

Boston: 12ppg, 5rpg, 1apg on 35/18/75

If you can find me a Kentucky (or any college) guy that shot this poorly but went on to blow up in the NBA, I'll agree and say that there is hope for him. Even Cam Reddish didn't play this badly at Duke and he's still pretty much the same player offensively as far as efficiency goes.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Ziaire Williams and BJ Boston are two guys that are projected to go high that I want nothing to do with.

I will admit, the hype around Ziaire still confuses me a bit but I will give him more chances to impress me. As for Boston, it's no secret that UK prospects look mediocre while they're at school but blow up when given a chance in the NBA. For both of these kids to be 6'7"+ with those handles and skills bodes well for their NBA futures if developed properly.

I'm not sure who you're referring to as looking mediocre.

Murray: 20ppg, 5rpg, 2apg on 45/41/78
Booker: 10ppg, 2rpg, 1apg on 47/41/82
Herro: 14ppg, 5rpg, 3 apg on 46/36/94

Booker was playing on a stacked team and coming off the bench thus his stats don't look as good, but he was killing it whenever he was out there, playing with Tyler Ulis.

Boston: 12ppg, 5rpg, 1apg on 35/18/75

If you can find me a Kentucky (or any college) guy that shot this poorly but went on to blow up in the NBA, I'll agree and say that there is hope for him. Even Cam Reddish didn't play this badly at Duke and he's still pretty much the same player offensively as far as efficiency goes.

Booker was definitely one. He didn't get enough time to show the star he could be, and while I liked him at UK he was never ranked as the top-5 prospect he should've been.

Adebayo averaged 13/8 on 60% shooting and looked like more of a lob threat than the dynamic big man he is in the NBA whos' averaging 19/9/5

There's also a reason guys like Maxey, Quickly, and Keldon Johnson have gone in the 20's and it's because an over-saturation of talent. However, I will admit that there were less guys who blow up once they come to the NBA than I thought. Still, Boston's raw talent is there but it will be on him to show what he can do. There are plenty of guys who waste their natural abilities and I hope he isn't one.