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2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

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Will we extend Bridges or will Sarver not pay 4 players big money for 1 or 2 years?

Yes, we extend him or at least match any offer as he is part of core
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Re: 2020 Season Speculation - the season begins, with a lot of new faces 

Post#401 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:52 pm

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King4Day wrote:What gives me a bit of peace on the Luka front is that there was a rumor that we may have selected Bagley too, had we selected number 2.
THAT, I'd never be able to live down.


Yeah it's best to not think about the McDonough years anymore. Dude set us back 5-6 years already. Bagley would have set us back 10.


Yeah, as much as many hate Ayton I can't imagine how they'd feel about Bagley. His defense is beyond horrible. So many care more about offense, and he is shooting better from 3 this year at 36%, but also from 2 shoots 47%. He averages 1 ast/1.8 to, .3 steal, .6 block.

And then if it was Bamba they would really be upset..there were a number of people high on Bamba too. He averages 5 a game..of course he has only played in 4 games at 8 mpg, but last year averaged 5 ppg in 14 mpg and 62 games. And as a rookie 6ppg, in 16 mpg in 47 games. But his TS% is down below 52% this year.

Just not good enough to get on the floor at all right now. So many other better bigs there.

Like I have said, Ayton's 18/12 with improving D last year was impressive for a 2nd year player. Embiid didn't even play his 2nd year and no one else was really better except Towns...not even Jokic.

He's down this year a little, but his usage is down with a great number of productive players on the team.
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Post#402 » by starbosa10 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:44 pm

NBA should've never let that wizards game happen anyway. They already had positives at that time
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Post#403 » by Iceman36 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:48 pm

Any news on Suns Covid-19 status? Board seems to fell asleep right now...

Washington game shouldn't never happen. Another one in Suns' long list of bad karma...
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Post#404 » by Flying Colors » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:01 pm

Nothing since yesterday, i imagine we’ll know by tomorrow if the Memphis game on Monday is postponed or not.
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Post#405 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:53 pm

Iceman36 wrote:Any news on Suns Covid-19 status? Board seems to fell asleep right now...

Washington game shouldn't never happen. Another one in Suns' long list of bad karma...


No, I've been looking for stuff..haven't seen anything yet. Hopefully the Wiz were not too contagious yet at that game since none had tested positive until afterwards.

But I'd be surprised if we didn't have any positive tests. We should know by about now, being the 5th day since the games. If no positives by Monday we should be in the clear.

Hopefully none of the players have been together (I imagine they haven't) because then if we have one positive, a lot of guys will be in COVID protocol. If everyone is quarantining separately, we should be ok if we have a positive or 2.
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Post#406 » by Blonde » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:42 am

I heard it suggested on the radio that the nba cancelled all our games to ensure that we would be available to play on TNT for the MLK game. That may be a stretch but it feels absolutely wild to be so overly cautious with our team after throwing caution to the wind with the Wizards last week. Pretty annoyed that we aren’t playing and don’t have a good feeling about how we’ll perform when we come back.
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Post#407 » by Saberestar » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:32 am

Iceman36 wrote:Any news on Suns Covid-19 status? Board seems to fell asleep right now...

Washington game shouldn't never happen. Another one in Suns' long list of bad karma...

League sources informed The Arizona Republic that Monday's 3 p.m. game set to air on TNT 'looks good to go." The Suns are scheduled to fly out Sunday to Memphis.
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Post#408 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:58 pm

Memphis has won 4 in a row so good timing.
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Post#409 » by Kyler Murray » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:20 pm

So if Cleveland ends up cutting KPJ, would you guys take a flier on him? Cp3 can be the firm hand, if anyone. But after having so many head cases over the years I'm not so sure.
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Post#410 » by Saberestar » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:39 pm

Kyler Murray wrote:So if Cleveland ends up cutting KPJ, would you guys take a flier on him? Cp3 can be the firm hand, if anyone. But after having so many head cases over the years I'm not so sure.

I would not.

Kevin Porter Jr. is not good enough to worth the headache.

Is he better than Langston Galloway? I do not think so.
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Post#411 » by Blonde » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:58 pm

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Kyler Murray wrote:So if Cleveland ends up cutting KPJ, would you guys take a flier on him? Cp3 can be the firm hand, if anyone. But after having so many head cases over the years I'm not so sure.

I would not.

Kevin Porter Jr. is not good enough to worth the headache.

Is he better than Langston Galloway? I do not think so.

I’d do it. There’s clearly some untapped upside. Don’t really see it as a risk given our more veteran roster and coaching staff. Give him a 2-way deal, try to turn him into a future asset. Cut him loose if it doesn’t work out.
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Post#412 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:10 pm

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That looks like my dynasty team did last year.


Galinari is going on his 3rd week with an ankle sprain. Wall and Gordon missed a bunch due to COVID-Protocol, now he is remaining out with knee soreness. Horford is missing games for "Personal Reasons". I think i have had around 5 other players missing 2 or so games with it being due to "Personal". No one is sure whats up with LeVert, but its sounding like he very well may be done for the entire season. Ball has been sitting with knee tendonitis already.

I swear, both IRL and in Fantasy, the top teams very well could get there just due to their players remaining healthy.


It's the theme of this season.


The positive so far with us is we haven't really missed any key players in games we've played yet, except for Payne for a couple, one in which we lost, though as bad as we shot and lost, I doubt he would have made enough of a difference anyway.

Another thing that kind of sucks, is it seems most of the good teams that have had players out due to protocol have been in the east, so the west is still stacked as far as records go.
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Post#413 » by Saberestar » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:43 pm

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Kyler Murray wrote:So if Cleveland ends up cutting KPJ, would you guys take a flier on him? Cp3 can be the firm hand, if anyone. But after having so many head cases over the years I'm not so sure.

I would not.

Kevin Porter Jr. is not good enough to worth the headache.

Is he better than Langston Galloway? I do not think so.

I’d do it. There’s clearly some untapped upside. Don’t really see it as a risk given our more veteran roster and coaching staff. Give him a 2-way deal, try to turn him into a future asset. Cut him loose if it doesn’t work out.

But what about our culture? We have currently 0 problematic guys , it's great.

And why the Cavs are getting rid of him for free? He is certainly a headcase. No way James Jones adds a guy like that.

Kevin Love,Drummond ,Dellavedova, Larry Nance...they have a decent mix of youngsters and veterans, so I don't think that our veterans could change his mentality.
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Post#414 » by King4Day » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:00 pm

Hard no on Porter. He was a question mark out of college. With what he supposedly said to their GM? He's a bad apple. Don't want him anywhere near our team.
There's no way the Cavs will find a fool to trade for him. He'll likely get picked up by a contender or be in the G-League
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Post#415 » by Kyler Murray » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:10 pm

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Kyler Murray wrote:
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Galinari is going on his 3rd week with an ankle sprain. Wall and Gordon missed a bunch due to COVID-Protocol, now he is remaining out with knee soreness. Horford is missing games for "Personal Reasons". I think i have had around 5 other players missing 2 or so games with it being due to "Personal". No one is sure whats up with LeVert, but its sounding like he very well may be done for the entire season. Ball has been sitting with knee tendonitis already.

I swear, both IRL and in Fantasy, the top teams very well could get there just due to their players remaining healthy.


It's the theme of this season.


The positive so far with us is we haven't really missed any key players in games we've played yet, except for Payne for a couple, one in which we lost, though as bad as we shot and lost, I doubt he would have made enough of a difference anyway.

Another thing that kind of sucks, is it seems most of the good teams that have had players out due to protocol have been in the east, so the west is still stacked as far as records go.


You messed me up with these inter-topic quotes :lol:
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Post#416 » by King4Day » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:56 am

Let's say this season doesn't work out and we barely make the playoffs or even miss.
Let's say Booker and Paul just don't fit together.

What player do you see fitting better instead of Booker? Is there a player who would gel with the team we currently have, sans Book?

I looked through each teams roster to see if I could find one that would have a player that could make sense for us and Book for them.

Washington: I know Beal is an obvious choice but I don't expect Washington would want Booker next to Westbrook, knowing Westy and Harden couldn't co-exist. But if Beal says he wants out, it's an option to swap them.

Portland: CJ McCollum. I don't follow his game much but I know he's their #2. It hasn't worked yet with he and Lillard. Maybe they try to shake it up and would be willing to do that type of swap (other assets aside)

Cleveland: This is more a wildcard if we wanted to retool. Pushing to get either Sexton or Garland back. I know they are both off to a good start so I am not sure if either is worth the risk to implement into what we're building (or even enough). Much as Cleveland would probably like a star, they might be happy with what they're building and pass.

Miami: The rumor was they were willing to give up Herro for Harden. I am not sure if they'd do the same for Booker but it's worth kicking the tires on.


We need a player who's more team oriented and I think this might be the right path to look down if it comes to it.
Any other players you can think of who might fit better?
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Post#417 » by cberry78 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:07 am

King4Day wrote:Hard no on Porter. He was a question mark out of college. With what he supposedly said to their GM? He's a bad apple. Don't want him anywhere near our team.
There's no way the Cavs will find a fool to trade for him. He'll likely get picked up by a contender or be in the G-League

I would consider a conditional 2nd round pick and make him sit at the end of the bench. Maybe this was a one-time thing - but he is certainly NBA caliber, and with CP3 and Crowder to keep him in check, I might do it for that 2nd.
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Post#418 » by nevetsov » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:28 am

King4Day wrote:Let's say this season doesn't work out and we barely make the playoffs or even miss.
Let's say Booker and Paul just don't fit together.

What player do you see fitting better instead of Booker? Is there a player who would gel with the team we currently have, sans Book?

I looked through each teams roster to see if I could find one that would have a player that could make sense for us and Book for them.

Washington: I know Beal is an obvious choice but I don't expect Washington would want Booker next to Westbrook, knowing Westy and Harden couldn't co-exist. But if Beal says he wants out, it's an option to swap them.

Portland: CJ McCollum. I don't follow his game much but I know he's their #2. It hasn't worked yet with he and Lillard. Maybe they try to shake it up and would be willing to do that type of swap (other assets aside)

Cleveland: This is more a wildcard if we wanted to retool. Pushing to get either Sexton or Garland back. I know they are both off to a good start so I am not sure if either is worth the risk to implement into what we're building (or even enough). Much as Cleveland would probably like a star, they might be happy with what they're building and pass.

Miami: The rumor was they were willing to give up Herro for Harden. I am not sure if they'd do the same for Booker but it's worth kicking the tires on.


We need a player who's more team oriented and I think this might be the right path to look down if it comes to it.
Any other players you can think of who might fit better?


Oladipo? They could then get their young star by flipping Book to MIN for Edwards+.

I'd try to move CP3 before moving Book, though. Maybe try for Wall if he stays healthy. At least he's a bit more uptempo.
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Post#419 » by King4Day » Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:46 pm

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King4Day wrote:Let's say this season doesn't work out and we barely make the playoffs or even miss.
Let's say Booker and Paul just don't fit together.

What player do you see fitting better instead of Booker? Is there a player who would gel with the team we currently have, sans Book?

I looked through each teams roster to see if I could find one that would have a player that could make sense for us and Book for them.

Washington: I know Beal is an obvious choice but I don't expect Washington would want Booker next to Westbrook, knowing Westy and Harden couldn't co-exist. But if Beal says he wants out, it's an option to swap them.

Portland: CJ McCollum. I don't follow his game much but I know he's their #2. It hasn't worked yet with he and Lillard. Maybe they try to shake it up and would be willing to do that type of swap (other assets aside)

Cleveland: This is more a wildcard if we wanted to retool. Pushing to get either Sexton or Garland back. I know they are both off to a good start so I am not sure if either is worth the risk to implement into what we're building (or even enough). Much as Cleveland would probably like a star, they might be happy with what they're building and pass.

Miami: The rumor was they were willing to give up Herro for Harden. I am not sure if they'd do the same for Booker but it's worth kicking the tires on.


We need a player who's more team oriented and I think this might be the right path to look down if it comes to it.
Any other players you can think of who might fit better?


Oladipo? They could then get their young star by flipping Book to MIN for Edwards+.

I'd try to move CP3 before moving Book, though. Maybe try for Wall if he stays healthy. At least he's a bit more uptempo.

I won't go near Oladipo unless he committed to an extension since all signs point to him wanting Miami this summer.
Wall for Paul could be interesting. Might have to expand it though as I don't expect Houston to want Paul there for his final year. Unless they simply cut him but that wouldn't make sense either.
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Post#420 » by phnart » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:11 pm

I really don't see Jones doing anything to shake up this roster. I'm also not concerned about the fact they are streaky right now and having a hard time gelling together. They are still learning how to play with each other and Crowder is the only guy who has had success in a conference finals or any finals experience. Most of these Suns don't really know how to "win" yet and they will get a good dose of that this year. I'm not happy with the record because it could be better, of course, but I do think they will make the playoffs this year and I do think everyone will know their role sooner than later.
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