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Post#1341 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:47 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:Chauncey, Sam and Becky all deserve coaching opportunities but I’m not sure I wanna hand over Jayson Tatum and Jaylen browns next 3-4 years over to a 1st time coach.

If we move on from brad I think it should be someone who has head coaching experience and can get the players and team to the next level. Maybe those 3 start out and have zero bumps in the road as 1st time head coaches but it’s not an experiment I’m willing to try with so much tied into the future of Tatum and co.


Well it’s risky getting a coach with no prior experience, but both Sam and Chauncy had tons of playing experience as the point guards and one of the leaders of their respective teams. Those years of directing plays, and playing for championship teams means a lot. Even Steve Kerr had no prior experience, but did great. Both of those guys would command respect among players. They are good leaders and motivators, which Brad isn’t. They are battle tested as players, and there is a good chance ot translate to coaching. Plus i’m freaking bored with Stevens’ style of coaching. Lacks identity and toughness. No killer instinct, too systematic. Wouldn’t mind a change. I would like any of those two.
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Post#1342 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:28 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:Chauncey, Sam and Becky all deserve coaching opportunities but I’m not sure I wanna hand over Jayson Tatum and Jaylen browns next 3-4 years over to a 1st time coach.

If we move on from brad I think it should be someone who has head coaching experience and can get the players and team to the next level. Maybe those 3 start out and have zero bumps in the road as 1st time head coaches but it’s not an experiment I’m willing to try with so much tied into the future of Tatum and co.


Well it’s risky getting a coach with no prior experience, but both Sam and Chauncy had tons of playing experience as the point guards and one of the leaders of their respective teams. Those years of directing plays, and playing for championship teams means a lot. Even Steve Kerr had no prior experience, but did great. Both of those guys would command respect among players. They are good leaders and motivators, which Brad isn’t. They are battle tested as players, and there is a good chance ot translate to coaching. Plus i’m freaking bored with Stevens’ style of coaching. Lacks identity and toughness. No killer instinct, too systematic. Wouldn’t mind a change. I would like any of those two.


Yea me, a ham sandwich and a loaf of Italian bread could coach those warriors teams so...that said I like Kerr.
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Post#1343 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:38 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:Chauncey, Sam and Becky all deserve coaching opportunities but I’m not sure I wanna hand over Jayson Tatum and Jaylen browns next 3-4 years over to a 1st time coach.

If we move on from brad I think it should be someone who has head coaching experience and can get the players and team to the next level. Maybe those 3 start out and have zero bumps in the road as 1st time head coaches but it’s not an experiment I’m willing to try with so much tied into the future of Tatum and co.


Well it’s risky getting a coach with no prior experience, but both Sam and Chauncy had tons of playing experience as the point guards and one of the leaders of their respective teams. Those years of directing plays, and playing for championship teams means a lot. Even Steve Kerr had no prior experience, but did great. Both of those guys would command respect among players. They are good leaders and motivators, which Brad isn’t. They are battle tested as players, and there is a good chance ot translate to coaching. Plus i’m freaking bored with Stevens’ style of coaching. Lacks identity and toughness. No killer instinct, too systematic. Wouldn’t mind a change. I would like any of those two.


Yea me and a ham sandwich and a loaf of Italian bread could coach those warriors teams so...that said I like Kerr.


Probably. Those guys fits perfectly. Still, Kerr had them playing their best and maximizing the talent. He is also a good motivator and leader. Plus he is not scared to rattle things up for the best of the team. Benching David Lee, a former all star, in favor of up and coming draymond, which Mark Jackson wouldn’t do. Stevens can’t even tell Smart to stop chucking 3’s, much more bench the guy if he is playing ass.
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Post#1344 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:40 pm

Triple7 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
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Well it’s risky getting a coach with no prior experience, but both Sam and Chauncy had tons of playing experience as the point guards and one of the leaders of their respective teams. Those years of directing plays, and playing for championship teams means a lot. Even Steve Kerr had no prior experience, but did great. Both of those guys would command respect among players. They are good leaders and motivators, which Brad isn’t. They are battle tested as players, and there is a good chance ot translate to coaching. Plus i’m freaking bored with Stevens’ style of coaching. Lacks identity and toughness. No killer instinct, too systematic. Wouldn’t mind a change. I would like any of those two.


Yea me and a ham sandwich and a loaf of Italian bread could coach those warriors teams so...that said I like Kerr.


Probably. Those guys fits perfectly. Still, Kerr had them playing their best and maximizing the talent. He is also a good motivator and leader. Plus he is not scared to rattle things up for the best of the team. Benching David Lee, a former all star, in favor of up and coming draymond, which Mark Jackson wouldn’t do.


He was also an executive and gm of a team for 3 years before coaching...which allowed him a course on roster construction, player/executive/coach relationships and being in a leadership role of a locker room that’s after a career playing for Phil and pop,
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Post#1345 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:44 pm

So, the logic for the people wanting to fire everyone is that Ainge hasn't done a good job with personnel and Brad can't coach. So somehow after 20% of the season, despite Covid craziness, not having Kemba, and a relatively tough early schedule we're sitting on top of the east with either a coach that doesn't get the most out of talent provided to him, a GM that isn't providing the coach enough talent to win, or both? By what miracle did that happen?

What happened to the Fire Ainge or Brad's got to go threads (paraphrasing the names of course)? It'd be nice if you all could take it there instead of the trade thread and pretty much every other thread. I'm waiting to happily click on the the OT:Entertainment thread and find one of you posting. "I watched this great movie it's called BRAD CAN'T COACH FIRE AINGE BURN DOWN THE GARDEN"
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Post#1346 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:45 pm

I’m not ready to fire brad at all and I damn sure ain’t firing ainge....I just joined a conversation that was 3 pages long already. Couldn’t careless if we never talked about it again.
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Post#1347 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:46 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Yea me and a ham sandwich and a loaf of Italian bread could coach those warriors teams so...that said I like Kerr.


Probably. Those guys fits perfectly. Still, Kerr had them playing their best and maximizing the talent. He is also a good motivator and leader. Plus he is not scared to rattle things up for the best of the team. Benching David Lee, a former all star, in favor of up and coming draymond, which Mark Jackson wouldn’t do.


He was also an executive and gm of a team for 3 years before coaching...which allowed him a course on roster construction, player/executive/coach relationships and being in a leadership role of a locker room that’s after a career playing for Phil and pop,
Not exactly flying blind.


Still it’s still his personality and character. Those warriors players know that Kerr has their backs. Kerr never backed down as a player, even against MJ, and he definitely won’t back down as a coach. You could see him questioning the refs, even getting techs just to change momentum. I don’t know if Stevens ever got a tech in his life. Lol
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Post#1348 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:54 pm

No need to fire brad or Ainge, yet, but upper management should be grooming potential replacements now.

Who on the coaching staff could be considered a potential head coach?
Who on the management side could be considered a replacement for Danny? Zarren?
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Post#1349 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:55 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:So, the logic for the people wanting to fire everyone is that Ainge hasn't done a good job with personnel and Brad can't coach. So somehow after 20% of the season, despite Covid craziness, not having Kemba, and a relatively tough early schedule we're sitting on top of the east with either a coach that doesn't get the most out of talent provided to him, a GM that isn't providing the coach enough talent to win, or both? By what miracle did that happen?

What happened to the Fire Ainge or Brad's got to go threads (paraphrasing the names of course)? It'd be nice if you all could take it there instead of the trade thread and pretty much every other thread. I'm waiting to happily click on the the OT:Entertainment thread and find one of you posting. "I watched this great movie it's called BRAD CAN'T COACH FIRE AINGE BURN DOWN THE GARDEN"


It’s not only this season. This season is crazy, you are right with that. He almost lost that locker room during the kyrie days, just because he can’t hold players accountable. His player rotations are head scratchers at times for 3 seasons now. His players panic and chuck 3’s at the first sign of trouble. Lack of leadership and killer instinct as a coach. I know most of the guys here are Stevens stans, but the honeymoon is over. Time for him to step up his game.
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Post#1350 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:03 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:No need to fire brad or Ainge, yet, but upper management should be grooming potential replacements now.

Who on the coaching staff could be considered a potential head coach?
Who on the management side could be considered a replacement for Danny? Zarren?


Of course nobody should get fired on this crazy season i agree, but this season would tell a lot on how this team would move forward. Personally, i wouldn’t mind a coaching change. That’s just me :D
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Post#1351 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:40 pm

Triple7 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:No need to fire brad or Ainge, yet, but upper management should be grooming potential replacements now.

Who on the coaching staff could be considered a potential head coach?
Who on the management side could be considered a replacement for Danny? Zarren?


Of course nobody should get fired on this crazy season i agree, but this season would tell a lot on how this team would move forward. Personally, i wouldn’t mind a coaching change. That’s just me :D



Me too, if not at the head coach level that an upgrade to the bench coaches needs to be made.

I like Brad, but I am not convinced he can coach a champion.
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Post#1352 » by BK_2020 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:48 pm

You know who's really incapable of coaching a champion? Nick Nurse. Never played in the NBA, has no idea what it's like to be out there competing in the playoffs. No player would ever respect someone who peaked at Northern Iowa. Or Eric Spoelstra, who has no idea what it's like to play in the NBA, he has no business coaching an NBA team because no player respects a guy like that. Or Frank Vogel who never even played in college. Pssst, what NBA player, let alone a legend like Lebron, would respect a guy like that ?
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Post#1353 » by BK_2020 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:49 pm

The biggest fraud, though, is Gregg popovich. Never played in college, an AAU coach who's probably a CIA plant inside the NBA. He's the biggest reason why the Spurs never won anything, because no NBA player respects a coach who doesn't know what it's like to play in the NBA.
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Post#1354 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:53 pm

BK_2020 wrote:The biggest fraud, though, is Gregg popovich. Never played in college, an AAU coach who's probably a CIA plant inside the NBA. He's the biggest reason why the Spurs never won anything, because no NBA player respects a coach who doesn't know what it's like to play in the NBA.


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Post#1355 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:55 pm

When did it become a thing that a championship NBA coach needed to be a former player?

Nurse, Spo, Gregg, Red have all held player accountable, have all gotten on the refs, have all fought tooth and nail along with the players.
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Post#1356 » by La Flame » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:00 pm

Lol the people that don't want or aren't happy with getting Gordon or Barnes for TPE. You are in for a real surprise with what we'll actually get for it, if anything.
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Post#1357 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:04 pm

La Flame wrote:Lol the people that don't want or aren't happy with getting Gordon or Barnes for TPE. You are in for a real surprise with what we'll actually get for it, if anything.


Probably some washed up player, that gets overrated here like Tristan lol.
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Post#1358 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:08 pm

La Flame wrote:Lol the people that don't want or aren't happy with getting Gordon or Barnes for TPE. You are in for a real surprise with what we'll actually get for it, if anything.

Both those teams are not going to give either player for nothing. Yes the Celtics can absorb their salaries into the TPE but the Celtics are going to have to give players and picks for either player. I'm on board with trying to take a look at Barnes but not Gordon. Gordon is a horrible basketball player. This is Gordon's 8th year and he hasn't improved at all. Hard pass on Aaron Gordon.
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Post#1359 » by ddb » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:10 pm

wow I took off for a couple days and when I return people are talking about firing Brad and/or Danny? huh? Because they lost a 1pm game to the Knicks?
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Post#1360 » by La Flame » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
La Flame wrote:Lol the people that don't want or aren't happy with getting Gordon or Barnes for TPE. You are in for a real surprise with what we'll actually get for it, if anything.

Both those teams are not going to give either player for nothing. Yes the Celtics can absorb their salaries into the TPE but the Celtics are going to have to give players and picks for either player. I'm on board with trying to take a look at Barnes but not Gordon. Gordon is a horrible basketball player. This is Gordon's 8th year and he hasn't improved at all. Hard pass on Aaron Gordon.


Ofc you throw some picks in too, it's not like Ainge has done so great with late picks anyway.

Disagree on your Gordon take, I believe he can still improve. He's still only 25 and with better talent around him in Boston he would really flourish imo. Lets him focus on defense and scoring off the Jays and Kemba's playmaking. He's a freak athlete too. Now that I'm thinking about it, we should really make a play for him. Kemba/Smart/Jaylen/Tatum/Gordon could really mug teams on speed and defense alone. I doubt Magic is really interested in just loading him off though sadly and Ainge will never pay the extra cost to make a deal

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