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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1401 » by flintsky21 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:56 am

winsomme2 wrote:I think the player we should target is Oladipo.

I think he would work really good with our current combos.

He scores, plays hard, and plays solid defense.

Probably would have to give up langford to get him tho.

I'd give up Smart for him and won't apologize for it.
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Post#1402 » by Floody100 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:08 am

winsomme2 wrote:I think the player we should target is Oladipo.

I think he would work really good with our current combos.

He scores, plays hard, and plays solid defense.

Probably would have to give up langford to get him tho.


Naa too many guys who need the ball in their hands if we got Oladipo. We should be targeting guys who can defend while sitting in the corner hitting the open 3 consistently.
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Post#1403 » by cl2117 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:35 am

Floody100 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:I think the player we should target is Oladipo.

I think he would work really good with our current combos.

He scores, plays hard, and plays solid defense.

Probably would have to give up langford to get him tho.


Naa too many guys who need the ball in their hands if we got Oladipo. We should be targeting guys who can defend while sitting in the corner hitting the open 3 consistently.

I actually think Oladipo is the perfect fit if he's willing to accept the role. Our three best players can all play off-ball, but none of them get to the rack enough. Victor can knock down wide open threes, but he can also drive and kick in a way we could really use. I'd expect him to sit in the corner more while running with the starting unit, but we're desperate for an offensive leader for the 2nd unit. We could give him the keys whenever Kemba/Tatum are on the bench.

His defense is the most attractive attribute to me. Adding him would give us a really dominant group on the perimeter. Oladipo/Brown/Tatum/Smart as a foursome can all switch and create havoc. It'd add points in transition with how active they'd be in passing lanes. Matches up as well as you can hope with the Nets.

The issue with Oladipo would be that he wants to get paid max or close to max money, which a) likely isn't happening in Boston and b) is less likely to happen if he takes a 3rd/4th banana role. If he showed interest in taking Jaylen type money and that role, I'd go get him (I think it's an overpay, but I'd do it).

If we could expand it and swap Tucker for TT, you get the best of both worlds. Oladipo another two-way stud and Tucker the guy who sits in the corner for threes and plays great D. Cost you TT, Nesmith and 2021 FRP.

Find a 3rd string 7 footer like Whiteside/McGee to backfill the frontcourt. I honestly think that team can come out of the East.
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Post#1404 » by snowman » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:46 pm

Is it time to consider trading Smart? His contract is up after next off season, and I'm sure he is not going to take a home town discount.
Pritchard has made Edwards and Waters expendable, not that they weren't before in my mind.
Green is all about hustle, but unless it's a dunk, his shot is very questionable.
I though Semi and found a game, but sadly it was for only about 3 games.


I think this is the last season for Semi, Green, Edwards and Waters( 2-way) with the Celtics. With these spots possible open, and our TPE's, and we should be able to get something back.
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Post#1405 » by TheOGJabroni » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:20 pm

Out of curiosity, would people rather make a move for Harrison Barnes of Aaron Gordon? Those are two guys I consistently see as higher end trade targets with our TPE. I think Barnes' fit is better as a 3&D guy but Gordon has the higher upside you would want, especially on a team coached by Brad Stevens.

Both would fill in nicely at that swing Spot next to Tatum. It could allow us to move Smart back to the bench, where he seems to be a better fit with this team. Playing one of them 30 minutes/night will improve our roster tremendously. We have good deep bench depth but as we've seen, we have guys you don't want to rely on for 20 minutes/night, more like spot duty against particular matchups.
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Post#1406 » by jmr07019 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:39 pm

Nesmith and Boston 2021 for Barnes into TPE.

Kemba, Romeo, Boston 2023 for Dipo

Smart
Dipo
Brown
Barnes
Tatum

Is a deadly 5. Everyone can knockdown an open 3. Everyone can defend.

Still got Pritchard, Teague, Grant and the 3 centers for depth
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Post#1407 » by JediMasterRevan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:40 pm

All I know is:
Grant sucks
Edwards sucks
Teague sucks
Semi sucks
Romeo sucks
Nessmith sucks

Need more.
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Post#1408 » by winsomme2 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:46 pm

Floody100 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:I think the player we should target is Oladipo.

I think he would work really good with our current combos.

He scores, plays hard, and plays solid defense.

Probably would have to give up langford to get him tho.


Naa too many guys who need the ball in their hands if we got Oladipo. We should be targeting guys who can defend while sitting in the corner hitting the open 3 consistently.

I actually think the opposite. We have long stretches where we can't score and for me it's do not having enough players who can break down a defense.

Whoever we get as an additional piece IMO it needs to be someone capable scoring off the dribble.

An ability to also hit three is also important but more important for me is the ability to break down a defense.

We have too many lineups where everyone is just standing on the perimeter and that is really easy to defend.
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Post#1409 » by GregB » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:50 pm

flintsky21 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:I think the player we should target is Oladipo.

I think he would work really good with our current combos.

He scores, plays hard, and plays solid defense.

Probably would have to give up langford to get him tho.

I'd give up Smart for him and won't apologize for it.



Nah Trade Kemba
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Post#1410 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:50 pm

Serious question for the trade thread.

Marcus Smart has about 1.5 years left on his contract and in my opinion is going to get a 4 year and $80-$90 million deal. That’s about $20-22.5 million per year. Anything think it’s going to be less than that is fooling themselves.

Can the Celtics pay that contract given what Smart brings to the table and the guaranteed contracts that the Celtics already have in place?

It seems inevitable that either Smart or Kemba must be moved over the next year. No room for both mainly because Celtics are not good enough. A change has to be made if winning a title is the goal.

Don’t be shocked if Walker or Smart are moved at the trade deadline or this summer
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Post#1411 » by BK_2020 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:50 pm

If we want someone who can't defend but hit threes why not just start Nesmith at the 4, save $20 mil and keep the TPE.
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Post#1412 » by Squigglepuffin » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:16 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:All I know is:
Grant sucks
Edwards sucks
Romeo sucks
Nessmith sucks


Romeo I haven't given up on. Nesmith its too early to give up on but he wasn't my first choice.

G. Williams and Edwards were bound to be busts before they were even drafted so idk what the C's were thinking.

In any case the players we could have drafted instead at those spots would really have filled out our bench.

I just don't think Danny has done a good job these past two drafts and it will have major repercussions on our chance at titles in the future.

He legitimately could have created a long term stacked team if he'd drafted better in both drafts.

Huge missed opportunities.

Now it seems we're getting closer to the Harden Rockets: Deep playoff runs, no rings.
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Post#1413 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:12 pm

Call me crazy, but here are my ideal moves for this season:

-Barnes for the TPE and 1st and a 2nd.

- Hill for TPE and 2 2nds

- Tucker for Thompson/Grant and whatever else I haven't fully figured that out yet.

Why Barnes? I think Barnes is comfortable being the 4th fiddle and he wont be looking for a new big contract. Imo, that's really important in the current NBA landscape. He will fit into his role like a glove.

Hill and Tucker bring in vet presence to our bench and are 2 dudes who can make 3s and play defense.

Again, call me crazy, but I fully believe we can compete for a title with Brown/Tatum/Kemba and a better bench. Imo, we have the trashiest bench players in the league, it's kinda amazing that we're 8-5.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1414 » by Zombiesonics » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:19 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:Call me crazy, but here are my ideal moves for this season:

-Barnes for the TPE and 1st and a 2nd.

- Hill for TPE and 2 2nds

- Tucker for Thompson/Grant and whatever else I haven't fully figured that out yet.

Why Barnes? I think Barnes is comfortable being the 4th fiddle and he wont be looking for a new big contract. Imo, that's really important in the current NBA landscape. He will fit into his role like a glove.

Hill and Tucker bring in vet presence to our bench and are 2 dudes who can make 3s and play defense.

Again, call me crazy, but I fully believe we can compete for a title with Brown/Tatum/Kemba and a better bench. Imo, we have the trashiest bench players in the league, it's kinda amazing that we're 8-5.


barnes also has good chemistry with many celts from team usa. he fits the team like a glove and could replace those awful grant/semi minutes. I wonder if sac is even interested in moving him though he is a big part of their team (getting 35 mpg)
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Post#1415 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:Call me crazy, but here are my ideal moves for this season:

-Barnes for the TPE and 1st and a 2nd.

- Hill for TPE and 2 2nds

- Tucker for Thompson/Grant and whatever else I haven't fully figured that out yet.

Why Barnes? I think Barnes is comfortable being the 4th fiddle and he wont be looking for a new big contract. Imo, that's really important in the current NBA landscape. He will fit into his role like a glove.

Hill and Tucker bring in vet presence to our bench and are 2 dudes who can make 3s and play defense.

Again, call me crazy, but I fully believe we can compete for a title with Brown/Tatum/Kemba and a better bench. Imo, we have the trashiest bench players in the league, it's kinda amazing that we're 8-5.

More Celtics players need to be involved. Barnes makes $22.2 million and Hill makes $9.6 million. Celtics have a $28.5 million TPE
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Post#1416 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:23 pm

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FlatearthZorro wrote:Call me crazy, but here are my ideal moves for this season:

-Barnes for the TPE and 1st and a 2nd.

- Hill for TPE and 2 2nds

- Tucker for Thompson/Grant and whatever else I haven't fully figured that out yet.

Why Barnes? I think Barnes is comfortable being the 4th fiddle and he wont be looking for a new big contract. Imo, that's really important in the current NBA landscape. He will fit into his role like a glove.

Hill and Tucker bring in vet presence to our bench and are 2 dudes who can make 3s and play defense.

Again, call me crazy, but I fully believe we can compete for a title with Brown/Tatum/Kemba and a better bench. Imo, we have the trashiest bench players in the league, it's kinda amazing that we're 8-5.


barnes also has good chemistry with many celts from team usa. he fits the team like a glove and could replace those awful grant/semi minutes. I wonder if sac is even interested in moving him though he is a big part of their team (getting 35 mpg)


I know, but I feel as if they need to tank to add more top tier talent. They aren't making the playoffs, that's just how I see it.

The other honorable mentiones are Ross/Vucevic/Fournier or Gordon. I feel the same way about the Magic, I have no idea what they are doing, they are just treadmilling extremely hard. They need to tank and get young talent, Fultz and the other kid will be back next year.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1417 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:24 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:Call me crazy, but here are my ideal moves for this season:

-Barnes for the TPE and 1st and a 2nd.

- Hill for TPE and 2 2nds

- Tucker for Thompson/Grant and whatever else I haven't fully figured that out yet.

Why Barnes? I think Barnes is comfortable being the 4th fiddle and he wont be looking for a new big contract. Imo, that's really important in the current NBA landscape. He will fit into his role like a glove.

Hill and Tucker bring in vet presence to our bench and are 2 dudes who can make 3s and play defense.

Again, call me crazy, but I fully believe we can compete for a title with Brown/Tatum/Kemba and a better bench. Imo, we have the trashiest bench players in the league, it's kinda amazing that we're 8-5.

More Celtics players need to be involved. Barnes makes $22.2 million and Hill makes $9.6 million. Celtics have a $28.5 million TPE


Yea, yea, for sure. I haven't fully figured it out, but I wouldn't mind sending out 2 firsts, 2 2nds and a combination of Grant/Langford or Nesmith/Edwards, etc to make it work(3 of Nesmith/Langford/Edwards/Grant should be around 5 mils or more have to check that, too). We have 2 TPEs, one is 5 mils from the Kanter trade I believe.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1418 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:26 pm

If kemba can put together a nice healthy stint that dude is goneeeeezooooo in a trade
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Post#1419 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:34 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:If kemba can put together a nice healthy stint that dude is goneeeeezooooo in a trade


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Post#1420 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:41 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:If kemba can put together a nice healthy stint that dude is goneeeeezooooo in a trade


For what kind of return?
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