Lets talk Zach Lavine

[Jcool0]

There is a chance he keeps it up.. It is now officially an offensive tilted league so there is less defense. In years past he was taking (and making) tough tough shots. He's getting a lot more easy off ball looks now. He's still taking some tough shots but the distribution is a lot more balanced. Zach's always been a gifted scorer, now it's with easier shots.

absolute 0%. this is a guy who hated getting contact and ft hasnt increased. theres no way lavine shoots that high from close basket to mid range. Those are still his weakest areas.

Hasn’t been his weak spot this season. And he absolutely does not shy away from contact. He is always looking draw fouls when driving to the basket. And he is actually getting calls not which is why he is getting 2 frees throws instead ofa miss on the stat sheet. He is getting about as many free throws as you can expect unless the refs start giving him superstar called. I don’t expect it to stay at 60 percent as that is absurd for a guard, but I think it could settle in the mid 50s.

He is taking 6.2 FTA to start the season. Which is slightly up from his average the last few year of 5.8. He could probably still improve that as someone with his skill should probably be getting their 7+ times per game. He has been averaging 7.2 the last 5 games so it is doable.

[FriedRise]

absolute 0%. this is a guy who hated getting contact and ft hasnt increased. theres no way lavine shoots that high from close basket to mid range. Those are still his weakest areas.

Hasn’t been his weak spot this season. And he absolutely does not shy away from contact. He is always looking draw fouls when driving to the basket. And he is actually getting calls not which is why he is getting 2 frees throws instead ofa miss on the stat sheet. He is getting about as many free throws as you can expect unless the refs start giving him superstar called. I don’t expect it to stay at 60 percent as that is absurd for a guard, but I think it could settle in the mid 50s.

He is taking 6.2 FTA to start the season. Which is slightly up from his average the last few year of 5.8. He could probably still improve that as someone with his skill should probably be getting their 7+ times per game. He has been averaging 7.2 the last 5 games so it is doable.

He could learn to sell the contacts more since I don't think he even tries to avoid them when he attacks. I'm not saying go full flopping mode where it looks like there's a sniper in the building, but a little head bob or a yell could go a long way in helping the refs see things more clearly. He has such a quick first step and it often looks like he's just gliding around out there that there's no way he's not getting mauled.

[Mk0]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

[MisterRoy]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

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[Indomitable]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

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[GoBlue72391]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

That makes less than zero sense. Beal is older and only slightly to moderately better than Zach, not mention Lauri and the 3 picks.

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[Jcool0]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

If Chicago wants him its Coby and contracts for Beal. Nothing more. If Washington asked for Lavine and Lauri Chicago would laugh and hang up.

[Butler4thewin]

i think with lavine playing like this his value must be shooting way up i would dare say past beals value now ......i mean if he keeps playing like this you guys really think we cant get the number 1 pick for him ?

[Kukoc-Lauri]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

Saw that. At the moment you should think twice about straight Lavine Beal swap. Fat boy also added PWill should be included. Like finals offer Lavine,Lauri,Patrick, three firsts and two swaps for Beal. Idk what dealer he is got, but that stuff hits pretty high.

[Stratmaster]

If Lavine isnt commited to stay for team friendly deal 90/4 close to that range, we should trade him before this upcoming trade deadline because risk of walking off. Price should be 2 first round picks, one young prospect on rookie deal and sallary filler-expiring contract. That is starting price, Sixers,Lakers,Heat,Toronto,Bucks anyone who offers more, is gonna get Zach. Felicio should be dealt in package deal as salary relief for Bulls.Denver is dark horse if MPJ is on table. Otherwise G.Harris,Bol Bol,Barton and two firsts is minimum requaired. If Simmons is available we must explore ways to get him on Bulls. M.Robinson,Knicks first,Dallas first is starter for Knicks or RJ Barett and two Dallas first. Gsw should surrender Minny pick,Paschall and Gsw future first with fillers atleast. I am fine going any routhe with Zach except walking for free or 190/5 contract.

You want Zach, playing at the level he is, to sign for 22.5 mil per year??



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[Stratmaster]

You make a fair point. The Knicks pick in 2021 could be let’s say #10-14 and the Dallas 2023 could be between #18-24. I just figured 2 First Round Picks could get it done. At this rate of production, maybe the Bulls front office are hoping for 3 1sts or an established player + a 1st

I'm doubting the FO is trading Zach in any deal that doesn't bring back a young stud (i.e. Simmons or Herro) or a guaranteed top 3 pick. Zach isn't Harden and seems happy with the new FO and coach. Also, it doesn't seem like there will be a number of viable, better FA's available to spend his $ on, so the opportunity cost of keeping him seems low vs. alternatives.

There is no such thing as a Guaranteed Top 3 pick in the NBA with the new lotto odds, the worst team is more likely to get pick #4 or 5 than top 3.

Would have to be a draft night trade.

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[Indomitable]

If Lavine isnt commited to stay for team friendly deal 90/4 close to that range, we should trade him before this upcoming trade deadline because risk of walking off. Price should be 2 first round picks, one young prospect on rookie deal and sallary filler-expiring contract. That is starting price, Sixers,Lakers,Heat,Toronto,Bucks anyone who offers more, is gonna get Zach. Felicio should be dealt in package deal as salary relief for Bulls.Denver is dark horse if MPJ is on table. Otherwise G.Harris,Bol Bol,Barton and two firsts is minimum requaired. If Simmons is available we must explore ways to get him on Bulls. M.Robinson,Knicks first,Dallas first is starter for Knicks or RJ Barett and two Dallas first. Gsw should surrender Minny pick,Paschall and Gsw future first with fillers atleast. I am fine going any routhe with Zach except walking for free or 190/5 contract.

You want Zach, playing at the level he is, to sign for 22.5 mil per year??



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It really hard to imagine this is not trolling.

[WindyCityBorn]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

He should be slapped. I would not trade Zach for Beal straight up and that is the only fair trade for the Bulls.

[WindyCityBorn]

i think with lavine playing like this his value must be shooting way up i would dare say past beals value now ......i mean if he keeps playing like this you guys really think we cant get the number 1 pick for him ?

Why would we want the #1 pick for him? There is no Doncic or even Zion Williamson type sure-fire elite player in the draft.

[nomorezorro]

beal is obviously better than lavine imo, but i dunno how you cover the nba for a living and hypothesize that the bulls would say "let's trade our 25-year-old sg who can't be the centerpiece of a true contender for a 27-year-old sg who can't be the centerpiece of a true contender, and let's throw in three firsts and lauri to make it happen"

[WindyCityBorn]

beal is obviously better than lavine imo, but i dunno how you cover the nba for a living and hypothesize that the bulls would say "let's trade our 25-year-old sg who can't be the centerpiece of a true contender for a 27-year-old sg who can't be the centerpiece of a true contender, and let's throw in three firsts and lauri to make it happen"

So far Zach is having a better season than Beal did at 25 years old and he is still improving. Beal is almost two years older. But ultimately it comes to your end point that there is no reason for the Bulls to give up anything swap them.

Also the Wizards completely suck ass so shouldn’t Beal’s stats be considered empty or did that only apply to Zach? This isn’t directed at you really but really basketball media and fans in general.

[DroseReturnChi]

If Lavine isnt commited to stay for team friendly deal 90/4 close to that range, we should trade him before this upcoming trade deadline because risk of walking off. Price should be 2 first round picks, one young prospect on rookie deal and sallary filler-expiring contract. That is starting price, Sixers,Lakers,Heat,Toronto,Bucks anyone who offers more, is gonna get Zach. Felicio should be dealt in package deal as salary relief for Bulls.Denver is dark horse if MPJ is on table. Otherwise G.Harris,Bol Bol,Barton and two firsts is minimum requaired. If Simmons is available we must explore ways to get him on Bulls. M.Robinson,Knicks first,Dallas first is starter for Knicks or RJ Barett and two Dallas first. Gsw should surrender Minny pick,Paschall and Gsw future first with fillers atleast. I am fine going any routhe with Zach except walking for free or 190/5 contract.

You want Zach, playing at the level he is, to sign for 22.5 mil per year??



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It really hard to imagine this is not trolling.

i mean who really wants any player on a bloated contract if you were fan of Bulls?
it sucks to pay lavine 40mil personally im sick of it. enough is enough with that max talk lavine needs to be quiet and take 4/100.
Thats why I said sign Lauri to 4/80 but he will cost a max with his Dirk lite play.

[Stratmaster]

You want Zach, playing at the level he is, to sign for 22.5 mil per year??



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It really hard to imagine this is not trolling.

i mean who really wants any player on a bloated contract if you were fan of Bulls?
it sucks to pay lavine 40mil personally im sick of it. enough is enough with that max talk lavine needs to be quiet and take 4/100.
Thats why I said sign Lauri to 4/80 but he will cost a max with his Dirk lite play.

We just went from 22.5 mil to 40 mil. ?

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[CobyWhite0]

Windhorst was on his pod saying he saw Chicago as a dark horse for Beal. The cost? Lavine, Lauri and 3 firsts.

Which makes zero sense

I would ask Windhorst to send me some of what he's smoking, but I only smoke cannabis.

Brian had to be smoking crack when he said that BS.

[CobyWhite0]

It really hard to imagine this is not trolling.

i mean who really wants any player on a bloated contract if you were fan of Bulls?
it sucks to pay lavine 40mil personally im sick of it. enough is enough with that max talk lavine needs to be quiet and take 4/100.
Thats why I said sign Lauri to 4/80 but he will cost a max with his Dirk lite play.

We just went from 22.5 mil to 40 mil. ?

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I think he's been hanging out with Brian Windhorst...