Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15

cedric76 · Post #1021 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:49 pm

dsg2021 wrote:For a 15th pick, Cole Anthony is money.

Indeed

He can become a nice trade chip

RookieStar · Post #1022 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:18 pm

dsg2021 wrote:For a 15th pick, Cole Anthony is money.

Agreed. Sadly people around here lost that perspective.

With the history of us drafting the Sassinator,Reece Gaines,Stone-Hands Hunter and etc etc in this mid-teens range, Cole has actually shown us great value for money.

What? Y'all expecting a Luka, Giannis, Ingram, Tatum type of player at this pick?

Skin · Post #1023 » by **Skin** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:38 pm

RookieStar wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:For a 15th pick, Cole Anthony is money.

Agreed. Sadly people around here lost that perspective.

Yeah well there are people on the other side of the fence too thinking that he's the answer to all our prayers. Believing he's an alpha scorer and loving his defense.

basketballRob · Post #1024 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:10 am

I'd just like to see him match what Coby White did last season. 39/35/79.

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RookieStar · Post #1025 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:36 am

Skin wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:For a 15th pick, Cole Anthony is money.

Agreed. Sadly people around here lost that perspective.

Yeah well there are people on the other side of the fence too thinking that he's the answer to all our prayers. Believing he's an alpha scoirer and loving his defense.

Well.. alpha scorer... he has the mentality for it and TBH, love him or hate him you do see he gets fouled a lot with no calls so that kinda skews his driving game. Also, hia shot looks good, too bad its not dropping in.

As to the defense, right now he is too weak and gets.bodied away easily. Plus he does get lost sometimes. Is he gonna br better or is he gonna go harden/kyrie in that? Who knows.

The Effect · Post #1026 » by **The Effect** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:18 am

Skin wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:For a 15th pick, Cole Anthony is money.

Agreed. Sadly people around here lost that perspective.

Yeah well there are people on the other side of the fence too thinking that he's the answer to all our prayers. Believing he's an alpha scorer and loving his defense.

COunt me in that group

Skin · Post #1027 » by **Skin** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am

The Effect wrote:
Skin wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Agreed. Sadly people around here lost that perspective.

Yeah well there are people on the other side of the fence too thinking that he's the answer to all our prayers. Believing he's an alpha scorer and loving his defense.

COunt me in that group

So 10 year starter for the Magic on a contending team? Or no?

Post #1028 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 am

Last six games...

.455 from the floor (30/66), .609 from three (14/23)

basketballRob · Post #1029 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:53 am

Skin wrote:
The Effect wrote:
Skin wrote:Yeah well there are people on the other side of the fence too thinking that he's the answer to all our prayers. Believing he's an alpha scorer and loving his defense.

COunt me in that group

So 10 year starter for the Magic on a contending team? Or no?

He could very well be a Vanvleet type player. He's already shooting better than he did in his rookie year at 22.

I also did disagree with you about his defense. He's pretty solid and is better than Fultz at guarding the PG position.

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thelead · Post #1030 » by **thelead** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:54 am

Knightro wrote:Last six games...

.455 from the floor (30/66), .609 from three (14/23)

Imagine that... playing time helped the rookie...

Too bad our organization doesn't get that minutes need to be given to these young guys. Does it always work? Hell no. But at least you don't go into season 4 wondering if you should resign the guy or not :banghead:

Post #1031 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:12 am

Cole's passing and court vision skills are pretty limited and unspectacular, but I have been somewhat pleasantly surprised by the fact he's not just an absolutely shameless gunner out there.

For the most part, especially since he's been forced into the starting lineup, he's been at least trying to keep the ball moving and only really taking jumpers when he's open or attacking when he has a driving lane. His finishing has been ugly at times, but that's more of a skill issue a selfishness issue.

There hasn't been a crazy amount of selfish play in terms of hogging shots since he's been put on the floor for most of his minutes with the main veterans.

JF5 · Post #1032 » by **JF5** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:49 am

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:Last six games...

.455 from the floor (30/66), .609 from three (14/23)

Imagine that... playing time helped the rookie...

Too bad our organization doesn't get that minutes need to be given to these young guys. Does it always work? Hell no. But at least you don't go into season 4 wondering if you should resign the guy or not

Players are different. Some players who are all-world prospects but would lose confidence in their skill-set and become medial to terrible players if they don't perform at a certain expectation. Then you have Cole Anthony who has this unshakable confidence and belief in himself.

His pedigree/IQ/Toughness/willingness to get better he'll be a really damn good player. That's why I don't understand why people are down on him now. You can clearly see down the line/next few years he''ll at least be a 6th man of the year candidate to a potential borderline all-star barring any major injuries.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1033 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:51 am

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:Last six games...

.455 from the floor (30/66), .609 from three (14/23)

Imagine that... playing time helped the rookie...

Too bad our organization doesn't get that minutes need to be given to these young guys. Does it always work? Hell no. But at least you don't go into season 4 wondering if you should resign the guy or not

It doesnt always work out that way though. You cant just apply that to every player because they all have different mindsets and all handle the pressure differently. There are plenty of guys picked higher who got minutes and haven't panned out. Cole seems to be the type that cant take that lets the pressure roll off of his shoulders. We'll see if he can keep it going.

Skin · Post #1034 » by **Skin** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:39 am

basketballRob wrote:
Skin wrote:
The Effect wrote:COunt me in that group

So 10 year starter for the Magic on a contending team? Or no?
He could very well be a Vanvleet type player. He's already shooting better than he did in his rookie year at 22.

I also did disagree with you about his defense. He's pretty solid and is better than Fultz at guarding the PG position.

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I'm enjoying his 3pt shooting. He's taking what the defense is giving him and not forcing it.

But his defense bro... You need to convince me of your g'damn lying words. He does not even attempt to stop drivers (he prefers to try to get a block from behind), he does not take charges, he gets shot over very easily, he's not quick or long enough to get steals through passing lanes, he's not physical... I dunno what you like... he is barely ever used for defense at the top of the key... most of the time he's playing zone to stop the corner 3 - that's like the only way you could get away with having him on the floor because he can't guard anybody else except for the sneaky corner 3 spotter who is trying to hide.

...better defender than Fultz... you funny dawwwg. :lol:

Husky1 · Post #1035 » by **Husky1** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:23 am

We should be rapt with him so far. Yeah he has some warts, but he is leading the rookies in scoring, his court vision and passing is getting better everyday. He was Pick 15 remember. Has put the floater away and has become way more efficient . His shooting stroke is legit.

pepe1991 · Post #1036 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:27 am

Husky1 wrote:We should be rapt with him so far. Yeah he has some warts, but he is leading the rookies in scoring, his court vision and passing is getting better everyday. He was Pick 15 remember. Has put the floater away and has become way more efficient . His shooting stroke is legit.

Bro, he is averaging 3,2 assist a game as starter. Shelvin Mack did 3,5

RookieStar · Post #1037 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:30 am

Husky1 wrote:We should be rapt with him so far. Yeah he has some warts, but he is leading the rookies in scoring, his court vision and passing is getting better everyday. He was Pick 15 remember. Has put the floater away and has become way more efficient . His shooting stroke is legit.

Where did you find the stats of leading scorer of rookies? As much as i want Cole to be that and in fact the first of his class to score 50, guya like Quickley and Maxey has scored 30pt games already while Cole had his first???? 20pt game.

drsd · Post #1038 » by **drsd** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:44 am

Anthony currently has the 6th highest usage rate of rookies this year. He is 14th in PER for rookies.

Husky1 · Post #1039 » by **Husky1** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:08 am

He’s leading all rookies in scoring but

basketballRob · Post #1040 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:36 am

Skin wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Skin wrote:So 10 year starter for the Magic on a contending team? Or no?
He could very well be a Vanvleet type player. He's already shooting better than he did in his rookie year at 22.

I also did disagree with you about his defense. He's pretty solid and is better than Fultz at guarding the PG position.

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I'm enjoying his 3pt shooting. He's taking what the defense is giving him and not forcing it.

But his defense bro... You need to convince me of your g'damn lying words. He does not even attempt to stop drivers (he prefers to try to get a block from behind), he does not take charges, he gets shot over very easily, he's not quick or long enough to get steals through passing lanes, he's not physical... I dunno what you like... he is barely ever used for defense at the top of the key... most of the time he's playing zone to stop the corner 3 - that's like the only way you could get away with having him on the floor because he can't guard anybody else except for the sneaky corner 3 spotter who is trying to hide.

...better defender than Fultz... you funny dawwwg.

I don't recall anyone getting past him. I know he cut off Rozier on one play and drew an offensive foul.

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