Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[ddb]

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE

no thanks. I like our trio of bigs with TT/Theis/RW. I don't want any of those guys losing minutes to Baynes.

[ddb]

What about Thaddeus Young? Usually when that idea is suggested, it's in the context of a ridiculous overpay. But suppose he could be had cheap?

This would be a TPE-splitting idea, as he makes $13.5 million with a partial guarantee next season.

I wouldn't hate it. He isn't a good shooter, but he does a lot of other things that could help the Celtics off the bench.

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Funny (not recent) article on Javale McGee: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1162523-javale-mcgee-a-look-back-at-the-funniest-nba-season-of-all-time

[ddb]

A guy I'd really like to add is Maxi Kleber from the Mavericks. Don't think they had any intention of trading him, though.

I've thought about him too but it certainly seems like Dallas likes him and has every intention of being a playoff team. Doubt he would be available in a trade

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I wouldn’t be shocked if the Raptors made Aaron Baynes available at the trade deadline. Checks a lot of boxes for the TPE

no thanks. I like our trio of bigs with TT/Theis/RW. I don't want any of those guys losing minutes to Baynes.

What do you like about TT?

[24istheLAW]

Uh, can Bjelica play center?

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.

It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

He's no Aaron Gordon!

[ddb]

I have no desire to get Baynes back. He has been bad for Toronto this year.

not to mention the Celtics don't need him. like at all

[ddb]

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.

It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

Given the reaction to Thompson, the board will be hating on Bjelica within a few weeks

honest question for posters. Do any of you guys actually watch Sacto on a fairly regular basis? Like the actual games, not highlights. Bjelica isn't good.

[Curmudgeon]

Not really. He's 6'11, but has played more games as a SF than C...

Against small ball lineups probably. He's a stretch 4 though. Think Kelly Olynyk without the hair.

It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

He's no Aaron Gordon!

Which is why he's so cheap compared to Gordon. And when Gordon's deal expires at the end of next year, he will want to get paid as a first option instead of the 4th option he is. Bjelica will have no such illusions.

I like our bigs too. Timelord is playing well. But Baynes has the bulk to deal with Embiid, so I wouldn't mind a return. But who do you cut? Javonte Green is playing well too. Good defender.

[BK_2020]

Embiid destroys Baynes for his career and most recently dropped 29 and 16 on him. In fact it's a pretty fruitless endeavor to try to find $5 - $10 mil center who can stop Embiid. That's not going to happen.

[Squigglepuffin]

Harrison Barnes???

That's a terrible idea tbh. Don't succumb to group-think.

There are players on cheaper non-rookie contracts who can give you at least close to as much as harrison barnes.

The guy is no where, and I mean NO WHERE close to being worth the contract he's on.

Treating the idea of trading for Barnes as if its a good idea is to me one fuelled by some degree of desperation. How high a degree I'm not sure but emotion is clearly clouding logic.

Barnes is not a guy that puts us over the top.

You might say, "But he's the only one we have a realistic chance of aquiring."

His salary would cripple us long term and imo he doesn't really move the needle. Its a move we would come to regret.

If the only way we can improve the roster this season is by aquiring a mediocre player on a bloated contract and as far as I'm aware a contract that lasts for another 2 seasons (bad) its best to just suck it up, accept the roster can't be improved this season and just roll with the guys we've got.

[cl2117]

It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

Given the reaction to Thompson, the board will be hating on Bjelica within a few weeks

honest question for posters. Do any of you guys actually watch Sacto on a fairly regular basis? Like the actual games, not highlights. Bjelica isn't good.

Which is why he'd basically be free. No one is saying we trade anything significant for him.

I honestly only like him as part of a much larger package where we get Barnes and Whiteside as well because otherwise I'm not interested in breaking the Hayward TPE into smaller chunks.

But he fits as a guy who you could plant out at the 3 point line and confidently let him fire away. We could use a stretch 4. I'd rather PJ Tucker as he's a better defender, but Bjelica could fit the role as well.

[24istheLAW]

Harrison Barnes???

That's a terrible idea tbh. Don't succumb to group-think.

There are players on cheaper non-rookie contracts who can give you at least close to as much as harrison barnes.

The guy is no where, and I mean NO WHERE close to being worth the contract he's on.

Treating the idea of trading for Barnes as if its a good idea is to me one fuelled by some degree of desperation. How high a degree I'm not sure but emotion is clearly clouding logic.

Barnes is not a guy that puts us over the top.

You might say, "But he's the only one we have a realistic chance of aquiring."

His salary would cripple us long term and imo he doesn't really move the needle. Its a move we would come to regret.

If the only way we can improve the roster this season is by aquiring a mediocre player on a bloated contract and as far as I'm aware a contract that lasts for another 2 seasons (bad) its best to just suck it up, accept the roster can't be improved this season and just roll with the guys we've got.

A big selling point of Barnes is that his salary wouldn't cripple the team. He's under contract for 2 more years after this one, so he's a FA in 2023 along with Kemba. Which, as you've probably heard, is the pivotal offeason with regard to the Jays, and only time that the Celtics could potentially participate in Free Agency.

So yeah, you don't have the option to "just suck it up" and not use the TPE, which is your only avenue to add to the team. You have to find a veteran who can improve the team's competitive prospects, and hope that internal improvement does the rest. "Sucking it up" is a major risk to take. If the team doesn't get better, then Brown and/or Tatum leave to play somewhere else. And you can raise a banner that says DIDN'T OVERPAY A VETERAN FROM 2021-2023.

[bisme37]

Kill me if you want but I kinda think we don't need to make any moves right now.

Let the young guys play and see what we have. Any wing we get takes minutes from Nesmith and we have Langford coming back at some point too. I don't want those two to never play and then fade away into obscurity.

And as others have said this mysterious big we're looking for who will stop Embiid and Jokic etc does not actually exist.

Play this year out. Let the Jays continue to ascend. Get to the Finals or as close as possible. Then look to make a splash and go all in for next year.

[CelticFaninLBC]

It's absolutely hilarious how certain guys become such trade binkies on our board. Bjelica's name is tossed around on here so often and it blows my mind for a guy that's average on his best night.

Given the reaction to Thompson, the board will be hating on Bjelica within a few weeks

honest question for posters. Do any of you guys actually watch Sacto on a fairly regular basis? Like the actual games, not highlights. Bjelica isn't good.

His advance stats suggest he's terrible.

[celticfan42487]

Kill me if you want but I kinda think we don't need to make any moves right now.

Let the young guys play and see what we have. Any wing we get takes minutes from Nesmith and we have Langford coming back at some point too. I don't want those two to never play and then fade away into obscurity.

And as others have said this mysterious big we're looking for who will stop Embiid and Jokic etc does not actually exist.

Play this year out. Let the Jays continue to ascend. Get to the Finals or as close as possible. Then look to make a splash and go all in for next year.

The only way we were going to win was to put an MVP player next to Tatum and ideally keep one of Brown/Smart.

With that gone, and Harden next to KD as well as LeBron net to AD the best route is to think 3 years from now.

The main goal now should hope we get lucky with at least **** Romeo since Nesmith looks like he's James Young.

And specifically we need to try to trade Kemba for a younger all-star that lines up with Brown and Tatum's timeline. Ben Simmons or someone like that. No need to worry much about 5 wins here or there this year. Nor the difference between a 2nd round or ECF exit. The difference is immaterial.

[Celts17Pride]

Kill me if you want but I kinda think we don't need to make any moves right now.

Let the young guys play and see what we have. Any wing we get takes minutes from Nesmith and we have Langford coming back at some point too. I don't want those two to never play and then fade away into obscurity.

And as others have said this mysterious big we're looking for who will stop Embiid and Jokic etc does not actually exist.

Play this year out. Let the Jays continue to ascend. Get to the Finals or as close as possible. Then look to make a splash and go all in for next year.

Unless Ainge is presented with a slam dunk option I think he should wait until the March 25th trade deadline. Ainge still has to get a good read on Langford, Nesmith, Teague and a few others before he starts moving players

[MagicBagley18]

There is no big that can stop embiid or jokic....sure we have had guys like Baynes who can bang with him and slow him down and get physical with him but this idea we need a big more than anything is wrong.

We need a veteran wing who can score, play d and can fit into out system by spreading the floor etc. even with this player it’s still not enough imo but it’s a start

[cl2117]

There is no big that can stop embiid or jokic....sure we have had guys like Baynes who can bang with him and slow him down and get physical with him but this idea we need a big more than anything is wrong.

We need a veteran wing who can score, play d and can fit into out system by spreading the floor etc. even with this player it’s still not enough imo but it’s a start

I'll keep beating this drum: Hassan Whiteside and Garrett Temple.

Both fit into our non-Hayward TPEs. Both would just cost seconds and warm bodies (Javonte/Carsen).

Whiteside is the banger who will slow down Embiid by getting physical and not being pushed around as easily. Historically not a bad defender despite being slow footed. Makes the vet min.

Temple is a 3&D wing. Good size, vet option assuming Romeo/Nesmith can't earn playoff rotation minutes. Might flame out and be nothing, but is having a good year.

[gocelts]

Baynes is a realistic option. Bubble starter and depth at Center. Stevens knows how to use him and we need his skill set. Hes a bigger body than Thies and our only other center that can draw Embiid/Bam out of the post

We're not going to get an all-star unless we cough up Brown and that's not happening now.

Any other overpaid mediocre player has to fill a need AND be a "Stevens/Boston" guy.