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gobullschi wrote:AusBull wrote:Trading for Lonzo would be such a typical Bulls trade... When we should be targeting an elite distributor like Simmons.
There is no way Philadelphia trades Simmons. He’s a 6’10 athletic freak playing point guard, nearly averaging a triple double. Plus, he is only 24 years old. You don’t trade those types of players ever.
Embiid gets moved before Simmons.
AusBull wrote:Trading for Lonzo would be such a typical Bulls trade... When we should be targeting an elite distributor like Simmons.
gobullschi wrote:AusBull wrote:Trading for Lonzo would be such a typical Bulls trade... When we should be targeting an elite distributor like Simmons.
There is no way Philadelphia trades Simmons. He’s a 6’10 athletic freak playing point guard, nearly averaging a triple double. Plus, he is only 24 years old. You don’t trade those types of players ever.
Embiid gets moved before Simmons.
ChettheJet wrote:Over on Bleacher Report they have this
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2928416-blockbuster-nba-trade-ideas-youve-never-thought-of
New Orleans Pelicans receive: Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen and Ryan Arcidiacono
Chicago Bulls receive: Lonzo Ball, Eric Bledsoe, Jaxson Hayes, 2021 first-round pick (protected 8-30 via LAL; unprotected in 2022) and 2022 first-round pick (top-eight protected)
I don't mind the basic format of the deal what I dislike is that Ball is the one with a player option and Bledsoe has two more years. If it was the other way around it would be close to a done deal. The other thing is both of those picks end up in 2022, giving the Bulls 3 in that draft. Could be great to have three but who knows what the roster will look like going into the 2022 draft. If there was a way for the Bulls to get a 2021 and a 2022 pick so they would have consecutive years with 2 picks, then I'd sign right up.
The Bulls give up a forward and a guard and get 2 guards and a center. So post this deal, they likely can't trade Porter or Young but they still could trade Satoransky and/or Carter.
sco wrote:What about:
Otto/Lauri/Felicio for Drummond/Prince
Otto and Lauri could be a good fit for CLE this year and going forward. Give us a trial run for Drumond and Prince can fill depth at forward with Otto going. If we like them, we might be able to land an additional asset (i.e. Rubio) with WC and Hutch.
Rubio/Lavine/PWill/Thad/Drummond would lack 3pt shooting, but better than our current line-up. We could also start Val, and slide PWill to the PF position.
gobullschi wrote:sco wrote:What about:
Otto/Lauri/Felicio for Drummond/Prince
Otto and Lauri could be a good fit for CLE this year and going forward. Give us a trial run for Drumond and Prince can fill depth at forward with Otto going. If we like them, we might be able to land an additional asset (i.e. Rubio) with WC and Hutch.
Rubio/Lavine/PWill/Thad/Drummond would lack 3pt shooting, but better than our current line-up. We could also start Val, and slide PWill to the PF position.
OPJ for Drummond makes sense for both teams. No need to include Lauri in the deal.
gobullschi wrote:AusBull wrote:Trading for Lonzo would be such a typical Bulls trade... When we should be targeting an elite distributor like Simmons.
There is no way Philadelphia trades Simmons. He’s a 6’10 athletic freak playing point guard, nearly averaging a triple double. Plus, he is only 24 years old. You don’t trade those types of players ever.
Embiid gets moved before Simmons.
Little Nathan wrote:gobullschi wrote:AusBull wrote:Trading for Lonzo would be such a typical Bulls trade... When we should be targeting an elite distributor like Simmons.
There is no way Philadelphia trades Simmons. He’s a 6’10 athletic freak playing point guard, nearly averaging a triple double. Plus, he is only 24 years old. You don’t trade those types of players ever.
Embiid gets moved before Simmons.
Are there actually people who believe Simmons is better than Embiid?
Because that’s ridiculously wrong.
Muzbar wrote:Piggybacking off the Lonzo stuff.
Chicago receives
Myles Turner (Ind)
TJ McConnell (Ind)
Lonzo Ball (NO)
Indiana Receives
Wendell Carter Jr. (Chi)
Coby White (Chi)
JJ Reddick (NO)
New Orleans receives
Tomas Satoransky (Chi)
Cristiano Felicio (Chi)
Jeremy Lamb (Ind)
Turner gives the Bulls interior defense, 3pt shooting and apparently he wanted out before the season, with Lonzo the Bulls take a chance at turning his career around and McConnell provides a quality backup veteran PG.
Add picks to whomever from whoever if need be.
Thoughts?
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Muzbar wrote:Piggybacking off the Lonzo stuff.
Chicago receives
Myles Turner (Ind)
TJ McConnell (Ind)
Lonzo Ball (NO)
Indiana Receives
Wendell Carter Jr. (Chi)
Coby White (Chi)
JJ Reddick (NO)
New Orleans receives
Tomas Satoransky (Chi)
Cristiano Felicio (Chi)
Jeremy Lamb (Ind)
Turner gives the Bulls interior defense, 3pt shooting and apparently he wanted out before the season, with Lonzo the Bulls take a chance at turning his career around and McConnell provides a quality backup veteran PG.
Add picks to whomever from whoever if need be.
Thoughts?
Good for us and Indiana, NO bad haha
gobullschi wrote:Embiid is a beast. It’s just an age/position/health thing.
Little Nathan wrote:gobullschi wrote:Embiid is a beast. It’s just an age/position/health thing.
Age isn't really a factor. Health really isn't either, they both have their issues with that. I get the position thing because it's hard to build around centers these days, but Embiid is so much better than Simmons that it really shouldn't be much an issue either. Embiid's on/off numbers over the last couple of years are straight up comical, the Sixers are garbage without him.
If I'm the Sixers, I'm trading Simmons right now. He's been their 3rd best player this season at best, hasn't developed his offensive game since his rookie season, will be a huge offensive liability in the playoffs until he expands his game and he's still seen as some kind of star player. At this point, he's mostly a versatile defender (good) who excels in transition (good), but he has 0 offensive game beyond that. He still can't (and won't) shoot from anywhere but right at the rim. You just can't be star in this league without a versatile offensive game (unless you're a complete freak of nature like Giannis, I guess, but even he struggles in the playoffs).
Morey isn't dumb. Of course you trade Simmons before you trade Embiid.
sco wrote:Wonder if Porter/Valentine for Ball/Bledsoe/Hart would work for them? Frees up contracts for next season and gives them 2 guys who might fit nicely this season, and the $ work.