stormi wrote:Less concerned with their gimmick roster
lol how is putting three of the best scorers in the league on the same team a gimmick?
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stormi wrote:Less concerned with their gimmick roster
Stanford wrote:stormi wrote:Less concerned with their gimmick roster
lol how is putting three of the best scorers in the league on the same team a gimmick?
stormi wrote:gim·mick
/ˈɡimik/
noun
1.
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
Sounds about right. They're not winning anything meaningful relying on 3 sieves to play globetrotter basketball for 48 minutes every single night surrounded by roleplayers that do not insulate their skillsets like De'Andre Jordan, TLC, Shamet and Iman Shumpert off the street. This isn't 2k.
76ciology wrote:Spoiler:
I dont understand most of what you said, im being honest.
But the thing about thinking we could beat the Nets because they are not a good defensive team is an optimism bias IMO.
Aside from Embiid, who do you think Nets are worried stopping on defense?
Tobias is our CLEAR 2nd option, then there’s a big gap below him. Tobi is not that reliable on offense, if he’s so then we’d be winning games without Embiid. Tobi even struggled against the Blazers where he’s mostly defended by Melo.
Jeff Green, Harden and Durant can all defend Tobi and Ben on single coverage.
Sixers is one of the bottom 10 worst halfcourt offense in the league.
The way I see it, the way Sixers can beat the Nets on a 7 game series is if Biid single handedly carrying this team with an all time great level performance (like a spiritual apparition clip that gets millions of views on youtube) with/or Ben, Green, Tobi and Thybulle had an all time great performance on defense by locking down 3 of the best scorers in league history (like Kawhi vs Lebron heat/sas series and Marion vs LeBron Mavs/Heat series).
Negrodamus wrote:I think this year especially is going to present challenges for the Nets since they got Harden mid year, but I don't think anyone really understands how good the Nets will be by next year. Even the Heat needed a year to jell before taking off.
I'm still expecting Durant to hang 35ppg in the playoffs this year. They will all be ready to play and it's going to be very hard to slow them down.
Negrodamus wrote:I think this year especially is going to present challenges for the Nets since they got Harden mid year, but I don't think anyone really understands how good the Nets will be by next year. Even the Heat needed a year to jell before taking off.
I'm still expecting Durant to hang 35ppg in the playoffs this year. They will all be ready to play and it's going to be very hard to slow them down.
M2J wrote:Negrodamus wrote:I think this year especially is going to present challenges for the Nets since they got Harden mid year, but I don't think anyone really understands how good the Nets will be by next year. Even the Heat needed a year to jell before taking off.
I'm still expecting Durant to hang 35ppg in the playoffs this year. They will all be ready to play and it's going to be very hard to slow them down.
I agree. Next year they'll fill the holes and be a juggernaut. Even if they can get drummond this season... They still struggle defensively, even if the rebounding gets fixed. I would say that could get them through the East, but not LA
Stanford wrote:I'm not sure that's the literal definition of a gimmick
Negrodamus wrote:I think this year especially is going to present challenges for the Nets since they got Harden mid year, but I don't think anyone really understands how good the Nets will be by next year. Even the Heat needed a year to jell before taking off.
I'm still expecting Durant to hang 35ppg in the playoffs this year. They will all be ready to play and it's going to be very hard to slow them down.
Arsenal wrote:Negrodamus wrote:I think this year especially is going to present challenges for the Nets since they got Harden mid year, but I don't think anyone really understands how good the Nets will be by next year. Even the Heat needed a year to jell before taking off.
I'm still expecting Durant to hang 35ppg in the playoffs this year. They will all be ready to play and it's going to be very hard to slow them down.
That's all well and good, but with their track records I'd say ~ 50% chance all 3 are healthy for the playoffs.
Stanford wrote:stormi wrote:gim·mick
/ˈɡimik/
noun
1.
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
Sounds about right. They're not winning anything meaningful relying on 3 sieves to play globetrotter basketball for 48 minutes every single night surrounded by roleplayers that do not insulate their skillsets like De'Andre Jordan, TLC, Shamet and Iman Shumpert off the street. This isn't 2k.
Do all bad defensive teams have gimmick rosters?
stormi wrote:Stanford wrote:stormi wrote:gim·mick
/ˈɡimik/
noun
1.
a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
Sounds about right. They're not winning anything meaningful relying on 3 sieves to play globetrotter basketball for 48 minutes every single night surrounded by roleplayers that do not insulate their skillsets like De'Andre Jordan, TLC, Shamet and Iman Shumpert off the street. This isn't 2k.
Do all bad defensive teams have gimmick rosters?
Find me the last 27th ranked defensive team to win a championship
M2J wrote:stormi wrote:Stanford wrote:
Do all bad defensive teams have gimmick rosters?
Find me the last 27th ranked defensive team to win a championship
People that think that's not a big deal, are people thinking they're genius for jumping on the the bandwagon of the team with the most stars that can get their own shot again.
The East has seen teams with the multiple stars get far, but this East has improved to the point that roster construction has to be a factor. Nevermind the league as a whole.
We only have to look at last year where teams with teams that had about 4 guys that could could really get their own shot and generate offense that played great defense, got beaten and UPSET by teams that could take advantage of their weaknesses in the paint, Clippers and Celtics... and I'd say the Nets have bigger weaknesses in the paint, and I know they have worst defenders on the perimeter. The paint issues may get help, but the perimeter defense will not considering those 3 stars + Harris.
stormi wrote:M2J wrote:stormi wrote:
Find me the last 27th ranked defensive team to win a championship
People that think that's not a big deal, are people thinking they're genius for jumping on the the bandwagon of the team with the most stars that can get their own shot again.
The East has seen teams with the multiple stars get far, but this East has improved to the point that roster construction has to be a factor. Nevermind the league as a whole.
We only have to look at last year where teams with teams that had about 4 guys that could could really get their own shot and generate offense that played great defense, got beaten and UPSET by teams that could take advantage of their weaknesses in the paint, Clippers and Celtics... and I'd say the Nets have bigger weaknesses in the paint, and I know they have worst defenders on the perimeter. The paint issues may get help, but the perimeter defense will not considering those 3 stars + Harris.
I think with the Nets it's silly to be decreeing or dismissing them as of now, because they're unlike any team we've ever seen in modern NBA history. And I am a believer in talent usually winning out but things like depth and defending and coaching are extremely critical come playoff time and they check none of those boxes. As they're currently constructed they probably are better than us, because we also have glaring issues, but I don't see them winning the entire thing. It's just wishful thinking to disregard a scenario of a defense that poor to not run into a matchup where they get exploited a couple of times in a 7 games series and that be the deciding factor, especially with their inability to disrupt anything at the paint. Not only a place for bigs to go to work, but the layup is the most efficient shot in basketball and with no real protector down there it's open season for opposing forwards and guards. They're just a weird team, but not infallible and definitely not in the conversation with the Hampton 5 Warriors where the season was a foregone conclusion from opening night.