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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#361 » by ChettheJet » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:22 pm

amcoolio wrote:What would it take to get Markkanen? Assuming Hayward, LaMelo and Bridges are off the table


Graham is the easy idea. I sure don't see somebody giving up a FRP to get impending RFA Lauri

If the plan includes cutting salary and Rozier is available, then maybe it's Markkanen, Satoransky and Felicio. CHA makes the call on resigning Markkanen, this year Satoransky could play next to Graham off the bench and either stay or go for $5M buyout and Felicio is a center with an expiring contract.
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Post#362 » by Andi Obst » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:25 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Let be real. It is about Seyku.


He's probably their least interesting wing prospect to me, has shown nothing so far. Certainly not worth the price of taking on Blake's monster deal for next season. That's just ridiculous.

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Dont expect Pistons frp or Grant, they are more valuable than fillers for bad contract.


I don't expect anything from them. It makes little sense for them to invest assets in dumping Blake at this point, so I don't think it will happen.
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Post#363 » by sco » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:41 pm

amcoolio wrote:What would it take to get Markkanen? Assuming Hayward, LaMelo and Bridges are off the table

Graham or PJ Washington or a lotto protected 1st with protections that become unprotected by 2023.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#364 » by sco » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:46 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/harrison-barnes-known-boston-radar-203240010.html

Boston looking for "Shooting with Size".

I would love to do Lauri/Sato or Val or Kornet for Smart/Nesmith

Smart has become a very good 2-way player with PG skills. Pairing him with Zach/Coby would make a HUGE difference.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#365 » by Grodoboldo » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:46 am

sco wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/harrison-barnes-known-boston-radar-203240010.html

Boston looking for "Shooting with Size".

I would love to do Lauri/Sato or Val or Kornet for Smart/Nesmith

Smart has become a very good 2-way player with PG skills. Pairing him with Zach/Coby would make a HUGE difference.


Man, I'd instantly say yes to that trade! I just find it very hard to believe they'd give Smart up. But I would trade Markannen for Nesmith and fillers.
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Post#366 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:17 am

Smart for Lauri & Sato straight up, daaamn, yeah!!
But I doubt Celts would do that..
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Post#367 » by HoopsterJones » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:25 am

I wonder who the Pistons would be willing to add to the Blake Griffin salary dump trade. Saddiq Bey would be a nice get. But I don’t think they’ll part with him. Sekou looks like a bust and Hayes is injured.
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Post#368 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 am

HoopsterJones wrote:I wonder who the Pistons would be willing to add to the Blake Griffin salary dump trade. Saddiq Bey would be a nice get. But I don’t think they’ll part with him. Sekou looks like a bust and Hayes is injured.
i would took chances with Sekou. He had stretches last year where he showed more than P.Williams this year. He is still younger than most of rookies from 2020 class. He is incosistent and lacking playing time but if he developes which he have tools and potential he could be steal for Bulls. Not to much for loose imo for Bulls. Personally would rather take gamble on Doumboya with some bad salary attached than pay Drummond 20+ mil for that cap space.
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Post#369 » by The Box Office » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:41 am

I see some people are here are pissed off at people attacking Zach LaVine.

Monta Ellis and Ricky Davis shouldn't be compared to LaVine because LaVine blows them away statistically. HOWEVER, there was a guy who averaged 29.8 points, 5.1 assists, 4 rebounds, 1.2 steals, All Star year, 80 games in 2000/2001:

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Detroit Pistons traded him away anyway. LOL.

I'd inquire about Orlando Magic's Nikola Vucevic + first round pick in 2021 Draft for LaVine + Lauri. Orlando is looking to burn it all down and fire Clifford, their head coach. Clifford's refusal to play Mo Bamba is loads of laughs.
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Post#370 » by Grodoboldo » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:10 pm

I don't know how I'd feel about it, but would Orlando do Vucevic for Lauri + Carter + Coby + 23' lottery protected 1st?

Again, I don't really know how I'd feel about it, but Vuc is a damn good player who is under a reasonable contract for 2 more seasons after this one.
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NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#371 » by StunnerKO » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:57 pm

The Box Office wrote:I see some people are here are pissed off at people attacking Zach LaVine.

Monta Ellis and Ricky Davis shouldn't be compared to LaVine because LaVine blows them away statistically. HOWEVER, there was a guy who averaged 29.8 points, 5.1 assists, 4 rebounds, 1.2 steals, All Star year, 80 games in 2000/2001:

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Detroit Pistons traded him away anyway. LOL.

I'd inquire about Orlando Magic's Nikola Vucevic + first round pick in 2021 Draft for LaVine + Lauri. Orlando is looking to burn it all down and fire Clifford, their head coach. Clifford's refusal to play Mo Bamba is loads of laughs.



Jerry Stackhouse season is nothing compared to what Lavine is doing now lol He shot 40% from the field .. he took 24 shots a game for that 29 lol . That’s the definition of of being the only man on the team and doing what you want lol . Man was traded for a young Rip , Brian Cardinal and Ratko Varda , Pistons basically gave him away .
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Post#372 » by StunnerKO » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:03 pm

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Post#373 » by RSP83 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:40 pm

The Box Office wrote:I see some people are here are pissed off at people attacking Zach LaVine.

Monta Ellis and Ricky Davis shouldn't be compared to LaVine because LaVine blows them away statistically. HOWEVER, there was a guy who averaged 29.8 points, 5.1 assists, 4 rebounds, 1.2 steals, All Star year, 80 games in 2000/2001:

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JERRY STACKHOUSE

Detroit Pistons traded him away anyway. LOL.

I'd inquire about Orlando Magic's Nikola Vucevic + first round pick in 2021 Draft for LaVine + Lauri. Orlando is looking to burn it all down and fire Clifford, their head coach. Clifford's refusal to play Mo Bamba is loads of laughs.


Stack was an inefficient volume scorer. I wouldn't compare Zach to him. The Stack for Rip trade was not approved by Pistons fans initially. And for that team to eventually become a champion, there was a lot of luck involved as well. Who knew Billups would become that good? They were relevant for couple of years before that because they already had Ben Wallace who became the staple of that team with his defense. In our case we don't have anything besides Zach Lavine (and Pat) that's worth hanging on to.

If there is anything we want to take from that Pistons team, is that they didn't tank. Instead they built through FAs and trades bringing in established veterans (Billups, Corliss, Rasheed), with some luck in the Draft picking late first and early second (Tayshaun, Okur). I'm all for it if we're going that route. Keep Zach and Pat, and bring in established players, and do our homework in the draft.
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Post#374 » by sco » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:00 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:I wonder who the Pistons would be willing to add to the Blake Griffin salary dump trade. Saddiq Bey would be a nice get. But I don’t think they’ll part with him. Sekou looks like a bust and Hayes is injured.

If I take Griffin, I'd want Grant as compensation. He's been great and I think, a perfect fit with Zach as part of the new core.

Otto/Lauri/Coby/Felicio for Grant/Griffin works $-wise, gives them expirings plus a options to try before they buy on Otto and Lauri. I would be willing to sub out a protected 2022 1st instead of Coby if they want.
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NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#375 » by MisterRoy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:00 pm

I say we get Beal and run a 3 guard lineup with Zach and a true PG. Give the opposing team something to think about before they double team.


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Post#376 » by kodo » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:01 pm

RSP83 wrote:
Stack was an inefficient volume scorer. I wouldn't compare Zach to him. The Stack for Rip trade was not approved by Pistons fans initially. And for that team to eventually become a champion, there was a lot of luck involved as well. Who knew Billups would become that good? They were relevant for couple of years before that because they already had Ben Wallace who became the staple of that team with his defense. In our case we don't have anything besides Zach Lavine (and Pat) that's worth hanging on to.

If there is anything we want to take from that Pistons team, is that they didn't tank. Instead they built through FAs and trades bringing in established veterans (Billups, Corliss, Rasheed), with some luck in the Draft picking late first and early second (Tayshaun, Okur). I'm all for it if we're going that route. Keep Zach and Pat, and bring in established players, and do our homework in the draft.


Yeah Stack was a career volume chucker 40% FG and 30% 3P. 52% TS.
Lavine is at what, 65% this year?

It's like comparing Monta & Steph Curry because both are small guards that shoot off the dribble. Ignoring the fact that Monta was a terrible shooter and Steph a great one, at 66% TS.

I don't really blame Stack either, at that time it was a thing to construct teams with just 1 scorer and 4 defender/rebounders, like the Iverson Sixers. Who went all the way to the Finals with that formula. Iverson wasn't exactly a Kover-esque shooter either.
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Post#377 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:17 pm

Lauri for Nesmith and Boston’s 2021 1st feels close. They aren’t giving up Smart for Lauri. Boston’s pick is 18.
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Post#378 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:39 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Lauri for Nesmith and Boston’s 2021 1st feels close. They aren’t giving up Smart for Lauri. Boston’s pick is 18.


he'd be a great 3rd wheel behind Jayson & Jaylen, that's for sure.
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Post#379 » by gobullschi » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:07 am

Chicago Receives:
DeAngelo Russell
Ricky Rubio
Grayson Allen
Ed Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt

Minnesota Receives:
Coby White
Brandon Clarke
Gorgui Dieng
Tomas Satoransky
2022 1st (top 4 protected)

Memphis Receives:
Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr.


DeAngelo Russell / Ricky Rubio
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple / Grayson Allen
Patrick Williams / Otto Porter Jr.
Lauri Markkanen / Jarred Vanderbelt
Ed Davis / Daniel Gafford

*Bulls have enough cap space to sign Drummond in free agency.

2021:
DeAngelo Russell / Ricky Rubio / Ryan Arcidiacano
Zach LaVine / Grayson Allen / Garrett Temple
Patrick Williams / 2021 1st / Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen / Jarred Vanderbelt
Andre Drummond / Daniel Gafford
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Post#380 » by Grodoboldo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:07 am

gobullschi wrote:Chicago Receives:
DeAngelo Russell
Ricky Rubio
Grayson Allen
Ed Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt

Minnesota Receives:
Coby White
Brandon Clarke
Gorgui Dieng
Tomas Satoransky
2022 1st (top 4 protected)

Memphis Receives:
Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr.


DeAngelo Russell / Ricky Rubio
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple / Grayson Allen
Patrick Williams / Otto Porter Jr.
Lauri Markkanen / Jarred Vanderbelt
Ed Davis / Daniel Gafford

*Bulls have enough cap space to sign Drummond in free agency.

2021:
DeAngelo Russell / Ricky Rubio / Ryan Arcidiacano
Zach LaVine / Grayson Allen / Garrett Temple
Patrick Williams / 2021 1st / Chandler Hutchison
Lauri Markkanen / Jarred Vanderbelt
Andre Drummond / Daniel Gafford


I don't get this. Why would we try to be a worst version of the Timberwolves?

D'Angelo Russel is one of the most overrated players in the league, a horrible defender and a just meh creator in the half court. He's far from and ideal Lavine backcourt partner.
Drummond is a fine starting center. And that's all. He wouldn't really move the needle that much for us.
We'd be shuffling things around just for the sake of it, losing assets in the process and not getting anywhere in the long run.
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