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Post#401 » by likashing » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:02 am

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I've talked about this before. I would trade Oubre and filler salary and the Minny Pick for Jerami Grant. As in love as we are with that Minny pick, Grant helps us right away. A lineup of Steph/Wiggins/Grant/Draymond/Wiseman is a killer. And when Klay is healthy, we have a ton of flexibility with our roster. What team can compete with a death lineup of Steph/Klay/Wiggins/Grant/Draymond. Our bench, excluding Wiseman, will also still have the MLE, Looney, Paschall, etc.


You mean *the* Min pick which can be #4 or #5 this season, or un-protected next season. Min is worst team in the league right now.

For Jerami Grant?


Yep. But like I mentioned in another post, there's a difference between trading it without knowing where it's landing and trading it knowing where it's landing and having taken a good look at the prospects.


To me, the Minny pick is just too valuable of an asset to give for Jerami Grant though. But I see what you mean.

That pick is the key/difference maker if a big fish becomes available. Below are our chips. The Min pick is like the biggest pick asset in the league right now according to theathletic.com

- Our own 2021 pick (~#15-#20), or Min's 2nd round pick (#31-#33) <- come draft time we can attach the one not taken by OKC
- Min's 2021 pick (#4-#5), or Min's un-protected 2022 first round pick
- Wiseman (depends on his progress, can be a big or small trade chip)
- Wiggins
- Oubre
- Still have our 2022, 2023, 2025, and 2026 first round picks
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Re: Trade Oubre PRONTO. 

Post#402 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:03 am

mos_def wrote:You do know historically since the turn of the century that Minny usually picks in the top 6. 10 times to be exact. Out of the remaining 10, 2 was when they held the 7th. Thats pretty much a lock knowing where one is going to pick.take in account that numbers usually have the worst record being bumped out of the 1st pick, thus having a domino effect
I'll admit, I am not as well versed in the prospects as a lot of people on this board, but let's say the Warriors get the 6th pick. Which is going to maximize Steph's window? That rookie or Grant?
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Re: Trade Oubre PRONTO. 

Post#403 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:06 am

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You mean *the* Min pick which can be #4 or #5 this season, or un-protected next season. Min is worst team in the league right now.

For Jerami Grant?


Yep. But like I mentioned in another post, there's a difference between trading it without knowing where it's landing and trading it knowing where it's landing and having taken a good look at the prospects.


To me, the Minny pick is just too valuable of an asset to give for Jerami Grant though. But I see what you mean.

That pick is the key/difference maker if a big fish becomes available. Below are our chips. The Min pick is like the biggest pick asset in the league right now according to theathletic.com

- Our own 2021 pick (~#15-#20), or Min's 2nd round pick (#31-#33) <- come draft time we can attach the one not taken by OKC
- Min's 2021 pick (#4-#5), or Min's un-protected 2022 first round pick
- Wiseman (depends on his progress, can be a big or small trade chip)
- Wiggins
- Oubre
- Still have our 2022, 2023, 2025, and 2026 first round picks
Fair enough. But is a big fish going to be available? That's why I'm not opposed to waiting. The only problem is that we won't have Oubre's salary to use unless we trade him straight up for somebody.
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Post#404 » by floppymoose » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:12 am

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I have completely fallen in love with Oubre's game. He's far and away our most dynamic, gifted and explosive athlete and I consider him irreplaceable. He and Steph have developed an on-court chemistry that is a joy to watch and the reason why he's no longer playing most of his minutes with the second unit. And Kerr recognizes it because he's so goddamn smart and understands this team and the personnel so much better than all the numb nuts here.

You're all numb nuts, lovable numb nuts every one of you. You all love opening your yaps and saying stupid stuff that gets proven wrong sooner or later and you never admit to it and I love you all for it. I'm sure Warriors fans aren't unique but if unwarranted criticism of Myers and Kerr for doing their jobs way better than any of you can keep up with was a sport, we'd be in the midst of a dynasty.


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Post#405 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:48 am

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mos_def wrote:You do know historically since the turn of the century that Minny usually picks in the top 6. 10 times to be exact. Out of the remaining 10, 2 was when they held the 7th. Thats pretty much a lock knowing where one is going to pick.take in account that numbers usually have the worst record being bumped out of the 1st pick, thus having a domino effect
I'll admit, I am not as well versed in the prospects as a lot of people on this board, but let's say the Warriors get the 6th pick. Which is going to maximize Steph's window? That rookie or Grant?



I heard the Ignite team got blown out by 40?

That team is suppose to have 2 of the top 5 prospects in the 2021 draft class.
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Post#406 » by Mylie10 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:52 am

Those Ignite kids are so raw. And the NBA 3 isn’t there for them anytime soon.
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Post#407 » by FNQ » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:56 am

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mos_def wrote:You do know historically since the turn of the century that Minny usually picks in the top 6. 10 times to be exact. Out of the remaining 10, 2 was when they held the 7th. Thats pretty much a lock knowing where one is going to pick.take in account that numbers usually have the worst record being bumped out of the 1st pick, thus having a domino effect
I'll admit, I am not as well versed in the prospects as a lot of people on this board, but let's say the Warriors get the 6th pick. Which is going to maximize Steph's window? That rookie or Grant?



I heard the Ignite team got blown out by 40?

That team is suppose to have 2 of the top 5 prospects in the 2021 draft class.


Im not going to look too much into team success when it comes to those prospects.. they are unashamedly playing for themselves. I dont think its a good idea to have them on the same team, but not my call
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Post#408 » by Mylie10 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:02 am

Mylie10 wrote:Those Ignite kids are so raw. And the NBA 3 isn’t there for them anytime soon.


I will say that Jarret Jack is shooting the 3 really well. And he’s still in good shape.
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Post#409 » by Impuniti » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:19 am

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Post#410 » by tarantism » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:47 pm

I'd like to know if he's actually a Misfits fan or just a poser with the skull tattoo.

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Post#411 » by FNQ » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:34 pm

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This is kinda telling to me, but only about fans.. if you are OK with Oubre now and weren't before, you were just mad his shot wasn't dropping. But if you still dislike Oubre, you're probably looking at how he still tends to jam up our offense and defense.

Will freely admit that he's looked better in that regard when we don't have a C, but I dont think there's any worthwhile takeaways from that
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Post#412 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 pm

Yikes, I'm starting to feel the tide turn on Oubre and it's sending a cold chill up my spine. Just another reminder that we want the guy to do really well so that we can trade him for something good and something that gives us some options in the summer.
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Post#413 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:51 pm

I still think his defense is overrated. He gambles alot and gets blown by his man easily or loses his man entirely. His activity covers alot of his shortcomings there. Hes alot like Bazemore.
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Post#414 » by Mylie10 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:52 pm

The only thing I can point to with Oubre that has been an improvement other than his threes falling, is he has been passing a bit more out to shooters.
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Post#415 » by Impuniti » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

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This is kinda telling to me, but only about fans.. if you are OK with Oubre now and weren't before, you were just mad his shot wasn't dropping. But if you still dislike Oubre, you're probably looking at how he still tends to jam up our offense and defense.

Will freely admit that he's looked better in that regard when we don't have a C, but I dont think there's any worthwhile takeaways from that

I am both.

His shooting not being all time awful shooting makes me happy.
Him being a low IQ player still gives me headaches. I'll take the positives when I get them though.
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Post#416 » by TB » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:24 pm

At least with his shot falling somewhat we are getting what we expected.

I knew he didn't play with a high hoops IQ. I knew he didn't pass much. I knew he could be streaky shooting.

But I saw him as a net positive shooter that when hot is really good. A high energy defender that can switch onto multiple positions and be a plus in our defensive scheme. A player that offensively can play the 2-3-4. And mostly a player that thrives in a high paced crazy atmosphere.

I can live with that version of Oubre. It's better than what was available for the MLE, which is why I wanted him on the squad. It's also a version that might snag something in a trade.
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Post#417 » by HiRez » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:31 pm

Boston has the worst offense in the league, they desperately need scoring and they have a massive TPE. Oubre + salary dump if desired for Tristan Thompson + Aaron Nesmith? Then again Green and Thompson might kill each other. And lately Oubre has kind of been the player they thought they were getting to start with.
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Post#418 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:21 am

But seriously guys, I can't be the only one:

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Post#419 » by Sleepy51 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:46 pm

FNQ wrote:
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This is kinda telling to me, but only about fans.. if you are OK with Oubre now and weren't before, you were just mad his shot wasn't dropping. But if you still dislike Oubre, you're probably looking at how he still tends to jam up our offense and defense.

Will freely admit that he's looked better in that regard when we don't have a C, but I dont think there's any worthwhile takeaways from that


I also have reservations about “blaming the centers” for everything that was wrong in the first dozen games. I don’t think it’s excuse making to point out that JW was 19 with no training camp and covid, and trying to navigate integrating into a complex system with other new pieces all of whom had no training camp, covid, etc. for looney add into that rehab and playing back into shape. Oh yeah, and the league stacked up our early schedule with a few marquee matchup games that we havent had on the schedule during this run of imporvement.

Our centers sucked for a lot of major reasons external to the idea that Oubre needed more space to make wide open threes and to learn to stop taking early shot clock chucks.

I think we will find traditional lineups a lot more effective as the Cs get the same opportunity to play into shape and with a meshing team rather than the hodgepodge of experimental poop we started out as this season. The good news is that points to a team that can climb the standings a little in the latter part of the season barring a significant increase in schedule difficulty.
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Post#420 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:27 pm

So are we all able to agree now that Oubre is probably our 2nd or 3rd most important player after Steph and maybe Draymond? I am well aware of what Draymond brings to the table but Oubre is so dynamic, such a difference maker on both sides of the court that at this point I consider him more of a contributor to wins than Draymond, particularly since Draymond can't seem to make a layup any better than he can hit a jumper right now.

At this point, what I hope for most is to see a Death Lineup of Steph/Klay/Oubre/Wigs/Draymond finishing tough games next season.
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