Booker Discussion, news and highlights

[suns12345]

No, my post was wrong. Burns and Gambo didn’t know a thing, believe it or not! Silver picks replacement and it is any position in the conference.

I think he will pick Booker again. It's kind of hard to argue with the picks...between Paul it was close. I was thinking he should have made it over Zion, but pulling up Zion's #s and looking, they are impressive.

I'm a little surprised if the coaches respect Booker though, that they wouldn't take him over Zion...you'd think they'd wait a little bit for younger players.

Seems like the only other possibility might be DeRozan, who has pretty similar #s to Book (fewer points but almost double the assists, more boards, similar TS%), but Book is on the better team and seems to be who the players want (obvious by their voting too).

I think Sabonis might be the biggest snub though. The guy is averaging 21.5, 11.6, 5.7, 1, .7, with a 60% TS%. Easily the best player on 4th seed and they got no one. Probably the best passing big man next to Jokic..but great all around.

Hard to argue with east picks though. He would surely be the injury replacement in the east if there was one.

Trae and Bam are the biggest snubs, including the West, they should have been in over Randle and Vuc

Booker surely will make it in for AD, but to me he didn't cut it as it stood now, Zion's season has just been that impressive and the Pels are mediocre but not bottom of the barrel sucky, they are going to win the equivalent of 38 games or so

Zion's numbers are good but they are not better than Bookers last year and the year before when he missed out because "we were a losing team".

Anyway, I just feel for book because it's a legacy thing. It's all well and good for him to prove people wrong but at the end of his career, 3 time all star doesnt have the same ring as 8-10 time all star. And you know people who make all star teams regularly get preference for getting voted back year on year, so I fear once you fall of the wagon its hard to get back on consistently

[Mjee]

Book not making the AS game is a crock of ****

[bwgood77]

I am sorry but DeRozan avg 19 a game and above average defense. Isn't screaming all star

No, but it's on similar efficiency and he has 7 apg to like 1.6 turnovers pg and 5 boards a game. So he's been better at other stuff, particularly ast/to ratio where he is like 4/1 and Book is like 1/1.

I'd take Booker over him but he's got a decent case too.

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[suns12345]

It’s when I see threads like this that I wish I could still post on GB.

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Lol someone said Derozan is more of a snub because (in part) their team is doing better... hmmmm?

[TouchPassDario]

I am sorry but DeRozan avg 19 a game and above average defense. Isn't screaming all star

No, but it's on similar efficiency and he has 7 apg to like 1.6 turnovers pg and 5 boards a game. So he's been better at other stuff, particularly ast/to ratio where he is like 4/1 and Book is like 1/1.

I'd take Booker over him but he's got a decent case too.

I don’t give anyone credit in Pop’s system for a/t ratio. DeRozan is not an elite playmaker.

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[ATTL]

Booker is going to kill the other western teams this year even if he gets in on a technicality.

[TouchPassDario]

He was going to do that anyway. He did it last night!

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Lol someone said Derozan is more of a snub because (in part) their team is doing better... hmmmm?

Exactly lol.

[Seattlesun]

Hey fellas, if we are honest with ourselves, Dev did get off to a pretty slow start and had TO issues early. We all know he belongs amongst the top players but with all the hard decisions voters have to make, I think Dev’s slow start hurt him. Good chance he replaces AD. If not, incentive to kick a$$ the rest of the way. Go Suns!!

[spanishninja]

Hey fellas, if we are honest with ourselves, Dev did get off to a pretty slow start and had TO issues early. We all know he belongs amongst the top players but with all the hard decisions voters have to make, I think Dev’s slow start hurt him. Good chance he replaces AD. If not, incentive to kick a$$ the rest of the way. Go Suns!!

most of the other west all-stars had continuity compared to last year. the only other one in a new situation was CP3, and if you recall he was rusty himself early in the season. hard to blame a slow start all on booker.

[Mr Puddles]

Hey fellas, if we are honest with ourselves, Dev did get off to a pretty slow start and had TO issues early. We all know he belongs amongst the top players but with all the hard decisions voters have to make, I think Dev’s slow start hurt him. Good chance he replaces AD. If not, incentive to kick a$$ the rest of the way. Go Suns!!

most of the other west all-stars had continuity compared to last year. the only other one in a new situation was CP3, and if you recall he was rusty himself early in the season. hard to blame a slow start all on booker.

His slow start was clearly an anomaly, not the norm, and he's been his old self again in February. The thing about the All-star selections is that you don't want to look back on it at the end of the year and go "why the hell wasn't that guy selected" - Booker needing 10 games or so to adjust to sharing the backcourt with another star player for the first time in his career shouldn't disqualify him from making the all-star team, especially when you factor in how he's been snubbed in the past. Anyone thinking that Booker has forgotten how to be a dominant scorer on elite efficiency over the summer is kidding themselves. Then add to that fact that some of the guys selected over him, really haven't been playing much better (or better at all for that matter). I guess this is a by-product as well of all-star selections being made earlier in the season (games wise).

The inconsistency with how the selections are made is what bugs me more. Donovan Mitchell is basically putting up stats that are virtually identical to Booker in his 3rd year - in terms of scoring, ts%, assists, rebounds and AST to TO - but nobody bats an eye at him being an allstar selection because the Jazz have the best record in the league. Zion's team has one of the worst records in the league, but gets selected because he has nice scoring numbers (even though his defense and rebounding leave much to be desired). And then Booker is caught in the middle: better statistically than Mitchell, but one a team with a worst record, and arguably worse than Zion statistically but one a team with a much better record. Somewhere between selection Mitchell and Zion the narrative seemed to shift from, "team record" to "individual stats". The goal post seems to shift with each selection.

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[Kerrsed]

Hey fellas, if we are honest with ourselves, Dev did get off to a pretty slow start and had TO issues early. We all know he belongs amongst the top players but with all the hard decisions voters have to make, I think Dev’s slow start hurt him. Good chance he replaces AD. If not, incentive to kick a$$ the rest of the way. Go Suns!!

Slow start BUT STILL is currently averaging 25/4/4 on super solid percentages for the season. Those are all-star numbers, slow start or not. Now imagine what he would be averaging WITHOUT that "slow start".

So he averaged:
20/4/4 for December (5 Games). That 8 point game KILLED his average.
24/4/4 for January (9 Games).
26/4.5/4 for February (12 Games).

So this "Slow Start" cost him like what...... a point..... maybe 2 on his average?

As for maybe, just MAYBE Turnovers being an issue, his highest month was December. Those 5 games he averaged around 5 a game. Funny thing is that Doncic is currently averaging that for the month of Feburary. Looking at the Season Leaderboard for turnovers, its a who's who of all-star players. Lebron at the top of course with 124 TO's, but guys like Doncic (3rd), LaVine (Tied with Giannis for 4th), Harden (6th), Jokic (Tied with Westbrook for 7th), Randle (9th), Sabonis (All-star snub at 10th), Curry and Lillard (Tied for 11th). Booker is at 14th in the league and has 90 TO's.

Fact of the matter is, Booker (And Suns fans) have been told year after year after year that Bookers stats are great, but he is on a losing team, and that is whats effecting him not being considered an all-star. The moment he continues putting up all-star numbers but this time on a winning Suns team (4th in the entire league), all of a sudden people are saying that Winning doesnt matter, its a player award, not a team award. Its BS.

Honestly im starting to think that the NBA coaches who voted continue doing this hoping Booker gets frustrated and asks to be moved elsewhere. I just dont see any other reason why they all of a sudden reward a player on a losing team.

Looking at the only voting numbers we have (The Fan/Player/Media Vote totals), one thing sticks out to me, The player votes (Which should count more than the Fan Votes and the Media votes). Media only gave votes to 4 guards, and the fan vote is always trash and skewed. So lets look at who the players themselves felt earned the votes.

So for "Guards" in the West, Booker ended up with 55 Player votes. Doncic had 3 more than Booker with 58. Other players that made the All-star team: Mitchell (39), CP3 (26), and Lillard, who had the 2nd most Player votes for a guard with 155. And even though it doesnt matter, Paul George, Gobert, and Zion all had less than Bookers 55 Player votes as well.

[Seattlesun]

Look guys, I’m ok with the league underestimating Book. It’s ok. We know what we have in Book. Let’s keep it in-house. Until he freaks out come playoff time...

[SUN]

booker is another all star snub and a subway incident away from putting on clown makeup

[SunsRback4Good]

booker is another all star snub and a subway incident away from putting on clown makeup

Are you portraying Booker as Joker?

[SUN]

booker is another all star snub and a subway incident away from putting on clown makeup

Are you portraying Booker as Joker?

You're laughing. You got robbed of an accolade in your prime and you're laughing. The Hornets have cancelled their next 4 games because of what you did.

[SunsRback4Good]

booker is another all star snub and a subway incident away from putting on clown makeup

Are you portraying Booker as Joker?

You're laughing. You got robbed of an accolade in your prime and you're laughing. The Hornets have cancelled their next 4 games because of what you did.