The Official Cunningham vs Suggs Thread #Tank4Either

[Psubs]

Ayo just got his 2nd triple double of the season vs Minnesota!!!

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Again I prefer one of Christopher or Bouknight but I can see our scouting department really liking Ayo...

He can almost play a hybrid role of Delon and Norm. He has the ballhandling to help push the ball up, set up the offense (like Delon did) and the downhill drives to score or pitch out (like Norm) with of course the ability to hit a pitch out 3 as well. He'll the role of what we've typically been trying to run through our "off guard"/SG but again personally would just prefer we find someone with go to scoring potential that can create his own as a true scorer with more crafty ballhandling, foot work and purer shooting stroke like the guys I said before.

With this weird lack of direction for our team it's gonna be interesting where we land...

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

[720]

Again I prefer one of Christopher or Bouknight but I can see our scouting department really liking Ayo...

He can almost play a hybrid role of Delon and Norm. He has the ballhandling to help push the ball up, set up the offense (like Delon did) and the downhill drives to score or pitch out (like Norm) with of course the ability to hit a pitch out 3 as well. He'll the role of what we've typically been trying to run through our "off guard"/SG but again personally would just prefer we find someone with go to scoring potential that can create his own as a true scorer with more crafty ballhandling, foot work and purer shooting stroke like the guys I said before.

With this weird lack of direction for our team it's gonna be interesting where we land...

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

If he keeps this up he might be out of our range. He was an early 2nd rounder in a lot of mock sites earlier in the season. He’s been steadily moving up.

[Psubs]

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

If he keeps this up he might be out of our range. He was an early 2nd rounder in a lot of mock sites earlier in the season. He’s been steadily moving up.

Being a junior, I would think he would only rise like Payton Pritchard (mid 2nd to #26). Though you never know, ya he could leap ahead of of fellow Junior, Jared Butler and ahead of someone like Nix to get into the late teens.

[Psubs]

https://accsports.com/acc-analytics/pick-and-pop-paradox-how-uva-leverages-jay-huff-gravity-to-create-second-side-offense/

Still intrigues me and he's still shooting like 60/45/80. It took Boucher a while and Huff looks good the last 2 seasons. Give him 2-3 seasons and could be really good late 1st pick.

http://www.tankathon.com/big_board

[Indeed]

He's been mentioned here before, but I finally got to check out Canadian, Bennedict Mathurin and I think he might be my pick right now unless someone better drops. In fact, I'm worried he might even rise out of our range due to the SGA effect. I feel like SGA helped his cousin Nickiel go 17th, and I can see Mathurin rise up to the 15-17 range himself.

The guy would be great to pair with Fred and potentially replace Norm. 6'6 with a 7 foot wingspan, and great frame. He can handle the ball and has nice touch from outside (41%).

Watch on YouTube

As I pointed out before, he's very inconsistent but as a freshman he still ends up with really good %'s; 47.3/41.6/85.5.

Also he's still only 18 until June!!!

Watch on YouTube

Wouldn't object to it. The biggest question is that if he is capable of adapting to the NBA speed. It seems he is taking his time to do things, maybe he is still learning. Would also like to see him improve his off hand.

[JN]

Again I prefer one of Christopher or Bouknight but I can see our scouting department really liking Ayo...

He can almost play a hybrid role of Delon and Norm. He has the ballhandling to help push the ball up, set up the offense (like Delon did) and the downhill drives to score or pitch out (like Norm) with of course the ability to hit a pitch out 3 as well. He'll the role of what we've typically been trying to run through our "off guard"/SG but again personally would just prefer we find someone with go to scoring potential that can create his own as a true scorer with more crafty ballhandling, foot work and purer shooting stroke like the guys I said before.

With this weird lack of direction for our team it's gonna be interesting where we land...

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

They were in the 2005 National Title game. Started the year about 30-0, and was ranked #1 all year, lost 2 games including the final against UNC.

They were not very relevant in the 90's. They have on an off good seasons but never consistently good.... actually that has been their story as far as I can remember.

[Psubs]

I really like his quick burst while doing his crossovers. His first step is great. Something that should translate in the pros.

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

They were in the 2005 National Title game. Started the year about 30-0, and was ranked #1 all year, lost 2 games including the final against UNC.

They were not very relevant in the 90's. They have on an off good seasons but never consistently good.... actually that has been their story as far as I can remember.

Ah, I see it was the late 80's I was thinking about with Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson. Then nothing until Deron Williams.

[JN]

He also doesn't seem to be a stat padder getting 2 triple-doubles in the same season!!! If he gets another one, it can't be ignored. I don't remember Illinois being relevant since the 90's.

They were in the 2005 National Title game. Started the year about 30-0, and was ranked #1 all year, lost 2 games including the final against UNC.

They were not very relevant in the 90's. They have on an off good seasons but never consistently good.... actually that has been their story as far as I can remember.

Ah, I see it was the late 80's I was thinking about with Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson. Then nothing until Deron Williams.

They had a few other fringe NBA players as well. That was a great team -- beat Syracuse in the elite 8 -- one of my first memories of Syracuse.

[BoyzNTheHood]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

[Psubs]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

[Indeed]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

From the highlight, I don't see Nix moving that well off the ball. He maybe straightly a primary ball handler or station shooter. However, I am unsure him excel as the primary ball handler to create for others. Perhaps that is the reason he is not projected within the lottery.

[Psubs]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

From the highlight, I don't see Nix moving that well off the ball. He maybe straightly a primary ball handler or station shooter. However, I am unsure him excel as the primary ball handler to create for others. Perhaps that is the reason he is not projected within the lottery.

He was rated as the #1 PG ahead or at least on par with Suggs. Suggs got to play games earlier while Nix had to wait for the GLeague to start. I think Nix is like a bigger version of Deron Williams.

[Mark_83]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

[Psubs]

There were people that would've taken Deron Williams over Chris Paul for a good few years in the NBA. He was a great guard to watch and fairly ideal for the modern NBA. Karma bit him in the ass though.

Sorry if I'm not allowed to say ass

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

[Indeed]

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

Hard to agree by giving up future 1st, as drafting someone raw could be high risk.
If Bruno panned out instead of Giannis, it would be crazy.

[BoyzNTheHood]

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

Hard to agree by giving up future 1st, as drafting someone raw could be high risk.
If Bruno panned out instead of Giannis, it would be crazy.

There's probably an alternate reality where Bruno Caboclo of the Toronto Raptors is the multiple time MVP of the NBA

[Psubs]

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

Hard to agree by giving up future 1st, as drafting someone raw could be high risk.
If Bruno panned out instead of Giannis, it would be crazy.

There's probably an alternate reality where Bruno Caboclo of the Toronto Raptors is the multiple time MVP of the NBA

Bruno Bizzaroclo

[Mark_83]

Had them both before Marvin Williams. Atlanta thought Marvin was BPA! They needed a PG and should've drafted CP3. You could see Deron was a bit doughy. I wonder how Daishen Nix will fair with longevity. CP3 is still going strong.

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

I think we had a deal in place for Giannis prior to the Thunder taking Adams. Rob Babcock refused to move our two picks to move up flat out.

[Psubs]

We could have had Chris Paul for Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham.

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

I think we had a deal in place for Giannis prior to the Thunder taking Adams. Rob Babcock refused to move our two picks to move up flat out.

Masai was the GM during the Giannis draft.

[Mark_83]

Was that a rumoured proposal to move up?

Masai also should've just traded 2 future 1st picks if he really wanted to draft Giannis.

I think we had a deal in place for Giannis prior to the Thunder taking Adams. Rob Babcock refused to move our two picks to move up flat out.

Masai was the GM during the Giannis draft.

Sorry, my phrasing was bad. Babcock refused to trade up for Paul or Deron. Portland wanted picks 7 and 16 from us, but they settled for 6 and 27 from Utah instead cause Babcock wouldn't budge.