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Klomp wrote:Yeah, I think Beasley would be requested in a Gordon deal which would give me pause, but I could see a Rubio for Fournier swap discussed.
Baseline81 wrote:Klomp wrote:Yeah, I think Beasley would be requested in a Gordon deal which would give me pause, but I could see a Rubio for Fournier swap discussed.
I don't see Orlando looking at Rubio.
Once Fultz went down, the Magic have sputtered. For once, it doesn't seem they are interested in chasing the playoffs (currently third worst in the Eastern Conference) while running Carter-Williams and the rookie Anthony at PG.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:Baseline81 wrote:A couple of things regarding the owned pick transferring to 2022:
1.) Maybe I am more optimistic than most, but it's hard to envision a year like this year happening a second time -- in terms of the length of injuries, suspensions and COVID-19/health and safety protocol. Combine that with a competent coach, I don't see the Wolves remaining a bottom feeder.
2.) All we heard leading up to the 2020 draft was how this upcoming class was better at the top. By keeping the pick, the Wolves would be adding one of Cunningham, Mobley, Kuminga and Suggs (top-4 on most draft sites). Each would upgrade the bench, possibly even the starters.
I would also add that people now are saying the depth outside of the Top 3-5 in 2021 isn't that great. Big drop-off. If we lose the pick this year, it might not be as tragic as we think.
Everyone lamented the Cassell trade for years in large part because of the 1st round pick we gave up. It was later seen as maybe the biggest prize in the return haul in the Chris Paul trade. Does anyone remember who the pick ended up being?Spoiler:
Wolveswin wrote:Rolling the 40% dice on sink or swim of another season or two is very risky game of chance.
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Beasley, Okogie, Huancho and Reid for Aaron Gordon, Fournier, and Mo Mamba. Trade Rubio for a very good defensive SG or offball PG to play next to Dlo to handle the tougher matchup of opposing guards. We'll have a winning team.
Dlo/Dunn/Jmac
Edwards/Novell
Fournier/Culver
Gordon/Vanderbilt
Towns/Mo Mamba
Keep couple starters with that defensive bench players like culver, vanderbilt, and mamba and we'll be able to maintain our competitiveness and leads that we build.
Neeva wrote:You mentioned the 40 percent chance enough.
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
Neeva wrote:Anyway. If the plan is to get Cade Cunningham at the end of this season and then go all out and win in the 2021-2022 season shouldn’t Rosas try to get Spencer Dinwiddie? He seems to be on pace to be healthy by the start of next season and he should be relatively cheap, maybe Davis,Layman and something ?
Then trade Okogie, Culver, Hernagomez, Rubio etc for a PF.
Crazy-Canuck wrote:You dont want to trade kat, but if they keep their pick this year, next year could be painful with a hometown kid at the top of the draft board. Theres no other way to get into the lottery without trading kat (or ant, but i cant see it).
Thats assuming the wolves cant get into the playoffs.
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
shrink wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:You dont want to trade kat, but if they keep their pick this year, next year could be painful with a hometown kid at the top of the draft board. Theres no other way to get into the lottery without trading kat (or ant, but i cant see it).
Thats assuming the wolves cant get into the playoffs.
Our chance of getting any specific player in the draft, even if we had our pick, is low.
We certainly can’t trade KAT now to plan for it.
Baseline81 wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Rolling the 40% dice on sink or swim of another season or two is very risky game of chance.
Risk could certainly be worth it. Did you see what Cunningham did today against No. 7 Oklahoma?
Min: 44
FG: 12-21
3PT: 3-8
FT: 13-14
RB: 11
AST: 1
STL: 3
BLK: 2
TO: 6
PTS: 40
Wolveswin wrote:Klomp wrote:Baseline81 wrote:A couple of things regarding the owned pick transferring to 2022:
1.) Maybe I am more optimistic than most, but it's hard to envision a year like this year happening a second time -- in terms of the length of injuries, suspensions and COVID-19/health and safety protocol. Combine that with a competent coach, I don't see the Wolves remaining a bottom feeder.
2.) All we heard leading up to the 2020 draft was how this upcoming class was better at the top. By keeping the pick, the Wolves would be adding one of Cunningham, Mobley, Kuminga and Suggs (top-4 on most draft sites). Each would upgrade the bench, possibly even the starters.
I would also add that people now are saying the depth outside of the Top 3-5 in 2021 isn't that great. Big drop-off. If we lose the pick this year, it might not be as tragic as we think.
Everyone lamented the Cassell trade for years in large part because of the 1st round pick we gave up. It was later seen as maybe the biggest prize in the return haul in the Chris Paul trade. Does anyone remember who the pick ended up being?Spoiler:
I would say this is the exact thinking wolves should have IF Wolves had better than 40% chance of keeping their 1st or they were better and conveying 10-14 1st at best (this season). Rolling the 40% dice on sink or swim of another season or two is very risky game of chance.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Klomp wrote:I would also add that people now are saying the depth outside of the Top 3-5 in 2021 isn't that great. Big drop-off. If we lose the pick this year, it might not be as tragic as we think.
Everyone lamented the Cassell trade for years in large part because of the 1st round pick we gave up. It was later seen as maybe the biggest prize in the return haul in the Chris Paul trade. Does anyone remember who the pick ended up being?Spoiler:
I would say this is the exact thinking wolves should have IF Wolves had better than 40% chance of keeping their 1st or they were better and conveying 10-14 1st at best (this season). Rolling the 40% dice on sink or swim of another season or two is very risky game of chance.
So what thinking would you recommend then?
Wolveswin wrote:Klomp wrote:Wolveswin wrote:I would say this is the exact thinking wolves should have IF Wolves had better than 40% chance of keeping their 1st or they were better and conveying 10-14 1st at best (this season). Rolling the 40% dice on sink or swim of another season or two is very risky game of chance.
So what thinking would you recommend then?
Trade Towns. Rebuild time.
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