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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1041 » by bearadonisdna » Sat Mar 6, 2021 12:10 pm

the plan would be for love to play center
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Post#1042 » by Muzbar » Sat Mar 6, 2021 12:56 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

That is such a horrendous trade for the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...
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Post#1043 » by bearadonisdna » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:23 pm

Muzbar wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

That is such a horrendous trade from the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...


because its an upgrade to what we have and FA next year is not a good pool.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1044 » by Andi Obst » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:48 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

That is such a horrendous trade from the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...


because its an upgrade to what we have and FA next year is not a good pool.


Love isn't an upgrade on the court at this point. And he's somehow even a significant downgrade from Lauri even from a health perspective.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1045 » by sco » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:50 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

That is such a horrendous trade from the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...


because its an upgrade to what we have and FA next year is not a good pool.

Love is Lauri's future. A really great player...on paper and on the bench 1/2 the time. Seriously, though, he is just a bad contract these days. I'd be fine taking him on for other assets like a 1st or Garland. I played with the trade machine and getting NY involved to get Drummond, but NY doesn't have good matching contracts that are remotely interesting.
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Post#1046 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:52 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Muzbar wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

That is such a horrendous trade from the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...


because its an upgrade to what we have and FA next year is not a good pool.


We really really dont need Love at PF, for center spot its even more weird and not usefull at all
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Post#1047 » by bearadonisdna » Sat Mar 6, 2021 2:21 pm

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bearadonisdna wrote:
Muzbar wrote:That is such a horrendous trade from the Bulls, why would they want Love and his remaining quite large salary? Oh and to play center on top of that...


because its an upgrade to what we have and FA next year is not a good pool.


We really really dont need Love at PF, for center spot its even more weird and not usefull at all


its because love has been a better center than pf for years.
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Post#1048 » by sco » Sat Mar 6, 2021 2:27 pm

I'm thinking a test drive for Dipo might make sense. Would be a big help for a playoff run. Taking on Gordon's crappy contract is risky cause he could bolt, but adding a couple of young guys...what about:

Porter, Val, Hutch, Felicio for Dipo, Gordon, Nwaba, Kuruks
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Post#1049 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:44 pm

If Houston blows it up, I’d strongly look at John Wall. He looks pretty good tbh
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Post#1050 » by ChettheJet » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:55 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel


If the Bulls get a FRP from somebody for taking on the only big contract then I could do this. There's more to most deals than just matching contracts. Love is still too good for CLE to just give away but he also isn't good enough for the Bulls to just absorb his salary and years using up their cap space for a couple of years without getting something for their participation.

On the floor this allows the Bulls to trade or S&T Markkanen. They would start Williams, Love, Carter up front. Thad Young comes in to spell Love and Love becomes the the backup center. For right now Valentine is your backup SF. Next year my first option is to keep Young, second is to find a SF FA capable of starting and either start him next to Williams and have Love come off the bench or have the FA come in behind Love/Williams with PW being the backup PF. Depending on how things work out maybe Young still stays.

I'm not afraid of Kevin Love even at his price, so long as he's not the 2 or 3 option, Lavine, White and hopefully Williams, maybe some FA, ahead of him. He's an expensive role player but if he's playing against most teams' second unit, he dominates them much the way Young is this year.
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Post#1051 » by bearadonisdna » Sat Mar 6, 2021 4:20 pm

ChettheJet wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel


If the Bulls get a FRP from somebody for taking on the only big contract then I could do this. There's more to most deals than just matching contracts. Love is still too good for CLE to just give away but he also isn't good enough for the Bulls to just absorb his salary and years using up their cap space for a couple of years without getting something for their participation.

On the floor this allows the Bulls to trade or S&T Markkanen. They would start Williams, Love, Carter up front. Thad Young comes in to spell Love and Love becomes the the backup center. For right now Valentine is your backup SF. Next year my first option is to keep Young, second is to find a SF FA capable of starting and either start him next to Williams and have Love come off the bench or have the FA come in behind Love/Williams with PW being the backup PF. Depending on how things work out maybe Young still stays.

I'm not afraid of Kevin Love even at his price, so long as he's not the 2 or 3 option, Lavine, White and hopefully Williams, maybe some FA, ahead of him. He's an expensive role player but if he's playing against most teams' second unit, he dominates them much the way Young is this year.


on the floor it looks like this to me: by the half

Love-15 Carter-9
Markaneen-18 Thad-6
Williams-14 Temple-10

1.Cobe-16 Zach-8
2. Zach-10 Sato-10 Valentine-4

This is cobe bring it up the court offense, zach 1st option with good shooters all around and decent go to interior scoring as well from love and lauri.
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Post#1052 » by LateNight » Sat Mar 6, 2021 4:40 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
ChettheJet wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel


If the Bulls get a FRP from somebody for taking on the only big contract then I could do this. There's more to most deals than just matching contracts. Love is still too good for CLE to just give away but he also isn't good enough for the Bulls to just absorb his salary and years using up their cap space for a couple of years without getting something for their participation.

On the floor this allows the Bulls to trade or S&T Markkanen. They would start Williams, Love, Carter up front. Thad Young comes in to spell Love and Love becomes the the backup center. For right now Valentine is your backup SF. Next year my first option is to keep Young, second is to find a SF FA capable of starting and either start him next to Williams and have Love come off the bench or have the FA come in behind Love/Williams with PW being the backup PF. Depending on how things work out maybe Young still stays.

I'm not afraid of Kevin Love even at his price, so long as he's not the 2 or 3 option, Lavine, White and hopefully Williams, maybe some FA, ahead of him. He's an expensive role player but if he's playing against most teams' second unit, he dominates them much the way Young is this year.


on the floor it looks like this to me: by the half

Love-15 Carter-9
Markaneen-18 Thad-6
Williams-14 Temple-10

1.Cobe-16 Zach-8
2. Zach-10 Sato-10 Valentine-4

This is cobe bring it up the court offense, zach 1st option with good shooters all around and decent go to interior scoring as well from love and lauri.


Not sure why you would lower Thad's numbers that much when he has the most positive impact on our lineups.
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Post#1053 » by bearadonisdna » Sat Mar 6, 2021 4:42 pm

LateNight wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
ChettheJet wrote:
If the Bulls get a FRP from somebody for taking on the only big contract then I could do this. There's more to most deals than just matching contracts. Love is still too good for CLE to just give away but he also isn't good enough for the Bulls to just absorb his salary and years using up their cap space for a couple of years without getting something for their participation.

On the floor this allows the Bulls to trade or S&T Markkanen. They would start Williams, Love, Carter up front. Thad Young comes in to spell Love and Love becomes the the backup center. For right now Valentine is your backup SF. Next year my first option is to keep Young, second is to find a SF FA capable of starting and either start him next to Williams and have Love come off the bench or have the FA come in behind Love/Williams with PW being the backup PF. Depending on how things work out maybe Young still stays.

I'm not afraid of Kevin Love even at his price, so long as he's not the 2 or 3 option, Lavine, White and hopefully Williams, maybe some FA, ahead of him. He's an expensive role player but if he's playing against most teams' second unit, he dominates them much the way Young is this year.


on the floor it looks like this to me: by the half

Love-15 Carter-9
Markaneen-18 Thad-6
Williams-14 Temple-10

1.Cobe-16 Zach-8
2. Zach-10 Sato-10 Valentine-4

This is cobe bring it up the court offense, zach 1st option with good shooters all around and decent go to interior scoring as well from love and lauri.


Not sure why you would lower Thad's numbers that much when he has the most positive impact on our lineups.


because i would like to think lauri would get the bulk of the minutes at his position due to good play.
, ive always thought thad was more of a 3 than a 5, id be happy to give him sf minutes.
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Post#1054 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 5:08 pm

Thad is not a SF nor C, he is pure PF, who plays C in small ball lineups for Bulls, because our center depth sucks to the..
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Post#1055 » by heir_jordan22 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 5:29 pm

gobullschi wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:Could try for Vucevic. Porter, Carter, and a 2022 top 10 protected pick for Vuc. if they want to clear more salary then we can include Felicio for Ross. Hopefully we could also get them to throw in James Ennis because he is a very efficient scorer. Orlando saves cash and tanks for Cunningham or Suggs. We get to keep our pick this year to pick somewhere in the late teens and try to add another rotation player.

If the Bulls don't plan on re-signing Markkanen then he can be included in some variation of this trade.

White/Sato/Arci
LaVine/Ross/Temple
Williams/Ennis/Valentine
Markkanen/Young
Vucevic/Gafford/Kornet


That's not enough for Vuvevic. He will cost much more than that.


Porter, Carter, Markkanen, 2022 top-10 protected 1st round pick? For Vucevic and they also include Ross to unload his 3 year $40m deal.
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Post#1056 » by weneeda2guard » Sat Mar 6, 2021 5:48 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel

We are getting the worst of that deal

Drummond is younger and has money coming off the books this off season. Love is older is owed 2 more years upwards of 60 mill left on the deal.
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Post#1057 » by Kazuya10 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:59 pm

I actually really like that deal
bearadonisdna wrote:3 way trade: trade machine approved

knicks get- andre drummond
bulls get- Kevin love
cavs get- otto porter, frank, burk, noel


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Post#1058 » by StunnerKO » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:19 pm

When the Bulls sign Kawhi and Conley this summer >>>>>
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Post#1059 » by scottyg » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:24 pm

My dream trade deadline deals are like this,
- Lauri for Lonzo
-Otto, Valentine , Hutchison and Carter Jr. and 2 first rd pics and 2 2nds for Vucevic and Aaron Gordon

I would prefer not give up Lauri and get lonzo and Vuc abs Gordon but don’t see how it’s possible for

Lineup
lonzo/ Satoransky
Lavine/ white
Williams/ Satoransky
Gordon/ Thad young / Williams
Vucevic/ Gafford

But I don’t think this will happen so this is my realistic outcome which gives us a Pg In Rubio to help run the offense and get a real big man next to Lauri and get Drummond

Bulls trade Otto and Valentine and a future protected 2nd for Drummond !

Then bulls trade Felicio, Hutchison, Gafford, Archi and a 2nd rd pick for Rubio


Lineup
Rubio/Satoransky
Lavine/ white
Williams/ Satoransky
Gordon/ Thad young / Williams
Drummond/ Carter Jr.


Let’s make this happen
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Post#1060 » by Bulls619sd » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:46 pm

I like Oladipo and Drummond. Drummond would probably cost expiring and a second, Oladipo would probably cost expiring and a first figuring they're both free agents next year.

Oladipo/White
Lavine/Temple
Williams/Sato
Lauri/Young
Drummond/ Carter

It's a high-risk high reward scenario a good mix of young guys and veterans that I think would put us top four in the east. Things would have to work in our favor to pull this through agents players and a whole lot of acting and misleading

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