ImageImage

2021 Draft and Offseason - Rodgers Wants Out of GB?

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis, humanrefutation

jakecronus8
RealGM
Posts: 16,734
And1: 8,143
Joined: Feb 06, 2006
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#941 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:21 pm

Dear god, no.

Rodgers coming off his second best season of his career and the Pack led the league in offense last year. You don’t risk chemistry by bringing in an ass hat like Beckham.
Do it for Chuck
User avatar
M-C-G
RealGM
Posts: 23,525
And1: 9,849
Joined: Jan 13, 2013
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#942 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:56 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Pretty sure Nick Wright and OBJ are friends or at least friendly. I'd happily give up our 1st for him.


I think people remember 24 year old Beckham and still think he is that guy. I am not so sure, missed substantial time 3 out of the last 4 years. What gives people confidence that he is still a difference maker?

I think I would rather roll the dice on Rondale Moore or Kadarius Toney with that first round pick.
User avatar
tski1972
Head Coach
Posts: 6,307
And1: 3,766
Joined: May 24, 2011
Location: Wow-saw, WI
Contact:
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#943 » by tski1972 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:09 pm

Read on Twitter
http://twitter.com/MarkIsOld

Image

"Because of Giannis, the once lousy Bucks are back in the NBA conversation." - 60 Minutes
skones
RealGM
Posts: 37,108
And1: 17,267
Joined: Jul 20, 2004

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#944 » by skones » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:11 pm

M-C-G wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Pretty sure Nick Wright and OBJ are friends or at least friendly. I'd happily give up our 1st for him.


I think people remember 24 year old Beckham and still think he is that guy. I am not so sure, missed substantial time 3 out of the last 4 years. What gives people confidence that he is still a difference maker?

I think I would rather roll the dice on Rondale Moore or Kadarius Toney with that first round pick.
This past season aside. The production he had despite utter trash situations at QB the two years prior? Elite hands? I don't doubt for a second that OBJ isn't capable of absolutely blowing up elsewhere. I just don't think offense is this pressing need. I want to shore up the middle of our defense.

I'd much rather go into the season with Adams/Funchess/Lazard/MVS/Tonyan/Sternberger and see what we have. If we need a little extra oomph, then look into a trade.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
tski1972
Head Coach
Posts: 6,307
And1: 3,766
Joined: May 24, 2011
Location: Wow-saw, WI
Contact:
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#945 » by tski1972 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:16 pm

tski1972 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Packers have 10 total picks in the draft, no doubt they’ll be on the phone quite a bit.
http://twitter.com/MarkIsOld

Image

"Because of Giannis, the once lousy Bucks are back in the NBA conversation." - 60 Minutes
Daver
Head Coach
Posts: 7,065
And1: 2,696
Joined: Feb 23, 2019
       

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#946 » by Daver » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:17 pm

Packers will never trade for a stud wr or will upgrade that **** show at the LB spot.Why cause they dont value a stud ILB if anything those 2 TB loses showed was how impotante it is to have 1 if not 2 stud ILBs
User avatar
M-C-G
RealGM
Posts: 23,525
And1: 9,849
Joined: Jan 13, 2013
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#947 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:41 pm

skones wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Read on Twitter


Pretty sure Nick Wright and OBJ are friends or at least friendly. I'd happily give up our 1st for him.


I think people remember 24 year old Beckham and still think he is that guy. I am not so sure, missed substantial time 3 out of the last 4 years. What gives people confidence that he is still a difference maker?

I think I would rather roll the dice on Rondale Moore or Kadarius Toney with that first round pick.
This past season aside. The production he had despite utter trash situations at QB the two years prior? Elite hands? I don't doubt for a second that OBJ isn't capable of absolutely blowing up elsewhere. I just don't think offense is this pressing need. I want to shore up the middle of our defense.

I'd much rather go into the season with Adams/Funchess/Lazard/MVS/Tonyan/Sternberger and see what we have. If we need a little extra oomph, then look into a trade.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using RealGM mobile app


I think injuries had an impact and I agree QB play is a factor. But pretty much everything on career lows. Missed 25 games the last 4 years and I think mostly leg injuries, but can't recall for certain.

Wouldn't doubt he could be very good here, I just don't think it is forgone conclusion. And I agree it would be like a cherry on the top of the offense while we have some pretty big other holes to fill.
User avatar
M-C-G
RealGM
Posts: 23,525
And1: 9,849
Joined: Jan 13, 2013
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#948 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:44 pm

Daver wrote:Packers will never trade for a stud wr or will upgrade that **** show at the LB spot.Why cause they dont value a stud ILB if anything those 2 TB loses showed was how impotante it is to have 1 if not 2 stud ILBs


I think I typically don't advocate for ILB at all, but I do feel like this year may be different if the right guy is there. And by right guy I mean at least one of Bolton or Zaven being there.

Otherwise, I'd probably just roll the dice on Dylan Moses a little bit later as a sideline to sideline guy that is a sure tackler and hope he turns into Devon White.
neiLz
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,643
And1: 1,762
Joined: Oct 04, 2011
Location: Riverwest
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#949 » by neiLz » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:11 pm

hypothetical.. OBJ for Preston Smith/Late round picks? I don't want to give any significant assets up (top 4 rounds) in draft picks. But I'd salary swap and buy low on OBJ. If they are indeed looking to flip preston this could do it. Pack would still need to fit in OBJ cap wise, but i'd think about it if I was the packers. OBJ is on a super friendly deal - ZERO dead money if cut and at 15 mil per for the next 3 years.
User avatar
M-C-G
RealGM
Posts: 23,525
And1: 9,849
Joined: Jan 13, 2013
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#950 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:29 pm

neiLz wrote:hypothetical.. OBJ for Preston Smith/Late round picks? I don't want to give any significant assets up (top 4 rounds) in draft picks. But I'd salary swap and buy low on OBJ. If they are indeed looking to flip preston this could do it. Pack would still need to fit in OBJ cap wise, but i'd think about it if I was the packers. OBJ is on a super friendly deal - ZERO dead money if cut and at 15 mil per for the next 3 years.


If I was picking 15M to do something with, I would probably have just signed Aaron Jones (or at least tagged him) and try to bring in Patrick Peterson or something like that.
zmanishere11
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,884
And1: 279
Joined: May 20, 2002
Location: WI

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#951 » by zmanishere11 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:56 pm

Zadarius just sent out a tweet saying he wants to stay in GB for the rest of his career. I would bet he re-works his contract in the next 48 hours to cut his cap number down this year dramatically. That, and a new deal for Adams likely gets us under the cap, but we still need room for our rookies and a few other veteran signings.

The problem with Preston is we're going to need his salary next year to pay Jaire. Also - Rashan Gary is ready now, the guy needs to play more. If we can get through this off-season with these moves I like our chances for 2021, but we still need a couple base hits and even a home run in the draft to push us over the edge.

Maybe less blood shed then I thought this year.
User avatar
MoMM
RealGM
Posts: 10,573
And1: 1,771
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
Location: Brazilian in Barcelona
Contact:
       

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#952 » by MoMM » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:03 pm

Treebeard wrote:I wonder if Barry is selling LaFluer and Gute that he can make Preston productive enough again to be worth the money? Either that, or they aren't seeing anything better out there.

The whole point is, can we get a better player for under 8M/year? If not and it's not impacting keeping any other players, we should keep him. Next season is a whole new problem, because the dead cap is only 4M.
User avatar
Ron Swanson
RealGM
Posts: 25,710
And1: 29,543
Joined: May 15, 2013

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#953 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:12 pm

Preston's gone. They're doing the usual offseason lip service of being "in trade talks" before the inevitable cut. I get the logic behind bringing King back on a cheap deal if he hears crickets in free agency, but IDK man, I can't see any way you ever feel comfortable trotting him out there after that embarrassingly awful performance he put on in the NFCCG. Probably better for both sides to just move on.
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 103,463
And1: 55,853
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#954 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:14 pm

Read on Twitter
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
Profound23
RealGM
Posts: 20,588
And1: 8,305
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#955 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:42 pm

I would call ATL about Julio before thinking about OBJ.

2021 first, Preston Smith, and Jordan Love. Extend Adams, Z, and whoever else you need to in order to get it done.

Rodgers-Adams-Julio

I know....I know...we don't have the capspace but boy oh boy would that be fun. I don't want any part of OBJ.
User avatar
humanrefutation
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 32,951
And1: 16,631
Joined: Jun 05, 2006
       

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#956 » by humanrefutation » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:46 pm

I'd take OBJ, but I'm not giving up a first for him.
Profound23
RealGM
Posts: 20,588
And1: 8,305
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#957 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:36 am

Rather than trading picks for OBJ, if we had the money for a WR we could sign:

Golladay, Juju, Corey Davis, or Fuller (probably on a huge discount with his recent suspension). All four would be as productive, or more productive than OBJ would be in this offense and you don't have to give up any picks. If I am giving up picks I want a Julio or Michael Thomas type.
User avatar
giannis and 1
Starter
Posts: 2,356
And1: 1,173
Joined: Jan 06, 2019
Location: Vancouver, BC
       

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#958 » by giannis and 1 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:05 am

Rodgers for Wilson and Lockett?
still learning the game

Matches Malone wrote:How did NBA fandom get to the point that it's more fun to thirst over players on other teams than to care more about your own team and players...
Profound23
RealGM
Posts: 20,588
And1: 8,305
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
     

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#959 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:09 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Rodgers for Wilson and Lockett?



We would take the cap hit from Rodgers and the salary of Wilson. That would be over 70 million in cap just for those two.
User avatar
giannis and 1
Starter
Posts: 2,356
And1: 1,173
Joined: Jan 06, 2019
Location: Vancouver, BC
       

Re: 2021 Draft and Offseason - Wagner and Kirksey Released 

Post#960 » by giannis and 1 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:13 am

Profound23 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Rodgers for Wilson and Lockett?



We would take the cap hit from Rodgers and the salary of Wilson. That would be over 70 million in cap just for those two.

Is NFL salary cap even more complicated than NBA?

Anyways, would you guys have interest in Lockett alone? We have ridiculous talent at WR. Our biggest needs are pass rush, OL, and we could always use draft picks (since we traded all of them for a safety :banghead: ).
still learning the game

Matches Malone wrote:How did NBA fandom get to the point that it's more fun to thirst over players on other teams than to care more about your own team and players...

Return to Green Bay Packers