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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread (UPDATE: Bulls Offer Sato + 2nd Round picks) 

Post#641 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:33 pm

I just don't see a trade getting done at all.

Pelicans do get a useful vet for the upcoming season. Ball has been linked to Chicago since his LA days
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Post#642 » by Chi town » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:33 pm

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:We can’t beat Reddish for what we should reasonably offering for a RFA. Lonzo is a better Sato, which feels like a really good fit. But not trading Coby or WCJ for him as much as I hate them both when we could sign him in the off-season.


This is a great opportunity to get out of overpaid WCJ contract for his trash production. Think about it. He’s scheduled to make 7 mil next year when Dwight Howard is being paid 2-3 mil a year. Pack his Emo bag and don’t look back.


That’s who I’m looking to unload too. I think Coby will come around and he can shoot 3s. WCJ is a head case.
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Post#643 » by HomoSapien » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:38 pm

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:We can’t beat Reddish for what we should reasonably offering for a RFA. Lonzo is a better Sato, which feels like a really good fit. But not trading Coby or WCJ for him as much as I hate them both when we could sign him in the off-season.


This is a great opportunity to get out of overpaid WCJ contract for his trash production. Think about it. He’s scheduled to make 7 mil next year when Dwight Howard is being paid 2-3 mil a year. Pack his Emo bag and don’t look back.


To add to that, anyone trading for him now probably intends to retain him next year. He's a RFA, so we'd really have to overpay. Getting him now gives us the best chance of resigning him at a more reasonable figure.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread (UPDATE: Bulls Offer Sato + 2nd Round picks) 

Post#644 » by Chi town » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:46 pm

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:We can’t beat Reddish for what we should reasonably offering for a RFA. Lonzo is a better Sato, which feels like a really good fit. But not trading Coby or WCJ for him as much as I hate them both when we could sign him in the off-season.


This is a great opportunity to get out of overpaid WCJ contract for his trash production. Think about it. He’s scheduled to make 7 mil next year when Dwight Howard is being paid 2-3 mil a year. Pack his Emo bag and don’t look back.


To add to that, anyone trading for him now probably intends to retain him next year. He's a RFA, so we'd really have to overpay. Getting him now gives us the best chance of resigning him at a more reasonable figure.


This tells us a lot about what Billy and AK think about our roster? If they trade Sato and they can still choose not to resign Lonzo and then they don’t have to pay 6M for Sato’s buyout.

I’d think though they think Lonzo will improve and he will take pressure of Zach and make Coby and Lauri better. He’d help our D right away.
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Post#645 » by Jeffster81 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:46 pm

Has Atlanta actually offer Reddish or is this more of NO saying they are interested in Reddish and Hawks did not say no immediately and people assume Reddish was a possibility?
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Post#646 » by DuckIII » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:48 pm

1. Sato and 2nds is clearly not enough. But I’m at least pleased the Bulls are looking at it. He’s pretty close to an ideal fit in my opinion.

2. Why in the hell does Atlanta, of all teams, want Lonzo Ball?

3. Why in the hell would Ball re-sign with Atlanta?
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Post#647 » by The Force. » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:54 pm

So Lonzo would play 2 guard in ATL? I get wanting to pair a defensove guard with Trae but that seems like an odd fit.

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Post#648 » by Kazuya10 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:57 pm

DuckIII wrote:1. Sato and 2nds is clearly not enough. But I’m at least pleased the Bulls are looking at it. He’s pretty close to an ideal fit in my opinion.

2. Why in the hell does Atlanta, of all teams, want Lonzo Ball?

3. Why in the hell would Ball re-sign with Atlanta?


Point 1. I don't think its too far off the mark in reality... Ball is an RFA and Sato offers what, 65-70% of what balls does so they can either choose to honour his contract or let him go. Maybe offer a protected future 1st but then you more or less HAVE to resign him and his leverage goes up.

2. I cannot see a great fit, he would never have the ball in his hands.. unless he is convinced to play as a SG.

3. I cannot see any reason why he would want to resign with an established PG in Atlanta.

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Post#649 » by Chi town » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:58 pm

DuckIII wrote:1. Sato and 2nds is clearly not enough. But I’m at least pleased the Bulls are looking at it. He’s pretty close to an ideal fit in my opinion.

2. Why in the hell does Atlanta, of all teams, want Lonzo Ball?

3. Why in the hell would Ball re-sign with Atlanta?


CF is going to go crazy.

IMO it shows AK thinks he works w Zach and will cover some of our defensive issues.
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Post#650 » by FriedRise » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:00 pm

Need some sort of assurance from Lonzo’s camp that he’d take an extension with our team before I would offer any real asset. Right now, it’s a rental for 30 some games and that’s exactly what we offered.
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Post#651 » by Chi town » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:01 pm

Lonzo is not playing today
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Post#652 » by HomoSapien » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:02 pm

Chi town wrote:
DuckIII wrote:1. Sato and 2nds is clearly not enough. But I’m at least pleased the Bulls are looking at it. He’s pretty close to an ideal fit in my opinion.

2. Why in the hell does Atlanta, of all teams, want Lonzo Ball?

3. Why in the hell would Ball re-sign with Atlanta?


CF is going to go crazy.

IMO it shows AK thinks he works w Zach and will cover some of our defensive issues.


Also works well with Coby as he takes the ball out of his hands, but allows him to be matched up defensively against smaller PGs.
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Post#653 » by HomoSapien » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:03 pm

FriedRise wrote:Need some sort of assurance from Lonzo’s camp that he’d take an extension with our team before I would offer any real asset. Right now, it’s a rental for 30 some games and that’s exactly what we offered.


Meh, we'd have matching rights. Things would have to go just absurdly awful if he'd rather sign a qualifying offer than resign with us.
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Post#654 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 pm

I’d give them Carter.
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Post#655 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:07 pm

I’d gladly take Ball now. Great running mate for Zach and he is shooting the ball well.
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Post#656 » by DuckIII » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:07 pm

FriedRise wrote:Need some sort of assurance from Lonzo’s camp that he’d take an extension with our team before I would offer any real asset. Right now, it’s a rental for 30 some games and that’s exactly what we offered.


We’d have matching rights. The only risk is another team throws insane money at him. I’d take that risk. And I’d give up a real asset to do it.
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Post#657 » by The Force. » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:11 pm

If AK wants Lonzo so bad he should've drafted Haliburton.

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Post#658 » by CaPiTanAK » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:12 pm

Chi town wrote:Lonzo is not playing today


Prep that Bulls jersey. Let’s see if WCJ is playing tonight. Telling sign of some good news. Let’s get it done!
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Re: Lonzo Ball Thread (UPDATE: Bulls Offer Sato + 2nd Round picks) 

Post#659 » by CaPiTanAK » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:16 pm

Chi town wrote:
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CaPiTanAK wrote:
This is a great opportunity to get out of overpaid WCJ contract for his trash production. Think about it. He’s scheduled to make 7 mil next year when Dwight Howard is being paid 2-3 mil a year. Pack his Emo bag and don’t look back.


To add to that, anyone trading for him now probably intends to retain him next year. He's a RFA, so we'd really have to overpay. Getting him now gives us the best chance of resigning him at a more reasonable figure.


This tells us a lot about what Billy and AK think about our roster? If they trade Sato and they can still choose not to resign Lonzo and then they don’t have to pay 6M for Sato’s buyout.

I’d think though they think Lonzo will improve and he will take pressure of Zach and make Coby and Lauri better. He’d help our D right away.


Any deal involving WCJ for expiring is a W deal. If Lonzo plays like a stud, we will roll WCJ and Sato into a Lonzo contract. If Lonzo sucks, we will free up about 22 mil in cap space. W either ways.
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Post#660 » by VolumePoster » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:18 pm

The Force. wrote:If AK wants Lonzo so bad he should've drafted Haliburton.

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If Lonzo and Hali are equivalent, then why Wouldn’t you just sign Lonzo as a free agent, or trade for him, and draft another young player with promise?

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