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Post#41 » by mademan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:32 pm

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donnieme wrote:Who said anything about shooting


What im saying is, ever since Schroeder came back down to earth on his shooting, he also went back to who he was 2 years ago. I legit think he sucks and his only saving grace is that nobody else on the Lakers besides Lebron can dribble penetrate making him appear more valuable than he really is. The upgrade from him to Lowry is pretty substantial

Yeah..no, I'm not the one who said anything about the upgrade being substantial or not. My post simply said it would be shortsighted and that's because it would require several pieces, Lakers most definitely wont want to move Schroder plus KCP or Trez plus THT for a 35 year old. The players arent untradeable but that may not be the right deal


I very much think the Lakers will do anything to maximize winning over the next 2 years. When your best player is 36, there's no such thing as being shortsighted. But we'll agree to disagree
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Post#42 » by zimpy27 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:34 pm

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Post#43 » by nikster » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:38 pm

donnieme wrote:
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donnieme wrote:Who said anything about shooting


What im saying is, ever since Schroeder came back down to earth on his shooting, he also went back to who he was 2 years ago. I legit think he sucks and his only saving grace is that nobody else on the Lakers besides Lebron can dribble penetrate making him appear more valuable than he really is. The upgrade from him to Lowry is pretty substantial

Yeah..no, I'm not the one who said anything about the upgrade being substantial or not. My post simply said it would be shortsighted and that's because it would require several pieces, Lakers most definitely wont want to move Schroder plus KCP or Trez plus THT for a 35 year old. The players arent untradeable but that may not be the right deal.

Schroder is a free agent after his season anyway, how is this a short sighted move. Schroder is not a long term asset
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Post#44 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:40 pm

So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.
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Post#45 » by mademan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:45 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.


It's crazy how predictably bad this was.
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Post#46 » by trickshot » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:45 pm

nikster wrote:
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mademan wrote:
What im saying is, ever since Schroeder came back down to earth on his shooting, he also went back to who he was 2 years ago. I legit think he sucks and his only saving grace is that nobody else on the Lakers besides Lebron can dribble penetrate making him appear more valuable than he really is. The upgrade from him to Lowry is pretty substantial

Yeah..no, I'm not the one who said anything about the upgrade being substantial or not. My post simply said it would be shortsighted and that's because it would require several pieces, Lakers most definitely wont want to move Schroder plus KCP or Trez plus THT for a 35 year old. The players arent untradeable but that may not be the right deal.

Schroder is a free agent after his season anyway, how is this a short sighted move. Schroder is not a long term asset

Deadline is within 24 hours, is it not? Time will tell soon enough who and who they deem worth moving
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Post#48 » by Sofia » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:48 pm

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Good point.


The Play-in looks like it will do what the NBA wanted, more teams are going to try and compete for a chance at the playoffs (and associated revenue). Unfortunately it means a bunch of teams that need to blow it up will continue to drag the chain on the end of the treadmill (looking at you Orlando).


So we should be rooting for teams to blow it up and tank? :crazy:


Depends how short term you think. Everyone wants a competitive game, but no one wants a decade of mediocrity. It’s an extreme example, but look at the Sixers. A few years of pain has paid off for them.
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Post#49 » by Big J » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:53 pm

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The Play-in looks like it will do what the NBA wanted, more teams are going to try and compete for a chance at the playoffs (and associated revenue). Unfortunately it means a bunch of teams that need to blow it up will continue to drag the chain on the end of the treadmill (looking at you Orlando).


So we should be rooting for teams to blow it up and tank? :crazy:


Depends how short term you think. Everyone wants a competitive game, but no one wants a decade of mediocrity. It’s an extreme example, but look at the Sixers. A few years of pain has paid off for them.


To me it seems like this year would be the worst year to pack it in and start a rebuild. Things are more wide open than the've been in years. There are no sure thing teams this year.
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Post#50 » by The_Hater » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:55 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.


I would imagine that he would like to salary dump Bledsoe in any Ball trade, that doesn’t mean he’s going to be willing to take nothing of consequence in return. That only means that he’d like to include him in the deal.

Griffin is doing a really good job in NO, people are just being really impatient for results which is kinda mystifying. The rebuild just started 1.5 seasons ago for God’s sake! Let the young players mature, the picks to become players and the GM to finish his job.
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Post#51 » by Pointgod » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:55 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.


That was a shot honey moon with Griffin. I’m sure there are a couple of teams that would take on Bledsoe with a pick attached. No need to use Ball who’s a solid player
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Post#52 » by The_Hater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:01 am

Sofia wrote:
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The Play-in looks like it will do what the NBA wanted, more teams are going to try and compete for a chance at the playoffs (and associated revenue). Unfortunately it means a bunch of teams that need to blow it up will continue to drag the chain on the end of the treadmill (looking at you Orlando).


So we should be rooting for teams to blow it up and tank? :crazy:


Depends how short term you think. Everyone wants a competitive game, but no one wants a decade of mediocrity. It’s an extreme example, but look at the Sixers. A few years of pain has paid off for them.


Some teams don’t even try and bottom out, they just spend years chasing the 8 seed every season, aren’t good enough to achieve that minor goal and end up spending years and years in the lottery anyways.

Golden state was in the lottery 17/18 seasons before Curry and gang showed up. Sacramento has been chasing their tail through bad move after bad move and will now miss the playoffs for the 16th straight year. Phoenix is about to break a 10 year drought.
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Post#53 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:07 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.


I would imagine that he would like to salary dump Bledsoe in any Ball trade, that doesn’t mean he’s going to be willing to take nothing of consequence in return. That only means that he’d like to include him in the deal.

Griffin is doing a really good job in NO, people are just being really impatient for results which is kinda mystifying. The rebuild just started 1.5 seasons ago for God’s sake! Let the young players mature, the picks to become players and the GM to finish his job.

Okay but my point is with attaching Bledsoe in a Ball trade, Bledsoe is a negative value so he will hurt the return on a Ball trade.

Ball by himself return > Ball + Bledsoe return

How is Griffin doing a really good job? The Zion pick and LA deal were both essentially handed to him. Lets look at some of the moves he has made so far

#4 pick traded for Hayes and NAW
1st round pick (then extension) for Adams (no looking to salary dump 40 games in)
lotto pick on Kira
Jrue trade, lots of future picks and the value of those really depends on if Giannis stays with the Bucks. After Giannis signed that big deal with them, the value of the 2025 and 2027 Bucks picks probably arent that high at the moment. And again they took back Bledsoe which is either going to cost them a pick to salary dump, or it will hurt the return of the Ball trade

Where is he doing a really good job at? Id take Deandre Hunter over Hayes/NAW any day of the week. Hell Id take Brandon Clarke over Hayes/NAW and he took NAW before Clarke. Im just not seeing the positive moves Griffin has done so far. The best moves under his time there have been the 2 that were handed to him.
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Post#56 » by kuclas » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:15 am

shi-woo wrote:I feel like Ainge has to make a trade. This team needs a boost, and something to dissociate this Celtic team from the last couple. We need a new identity badly.

I'm hoping the AG rumors are true, and i'm dreaming for Lonzo.

He won’t make a trade unless he feels like he’s winning the trade. We all know that. So I doubt Celtics make any deadline deals. Danny Will see what he can do in off season.
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Post#57 » by The_Hater » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:16 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:So now rumors are the Pels might use Ball to help salary dump Bledsoe or Adams.

Im sorry but Griffin needs to go, he is garbage. Just this offseason he used a 1st round pick to get Adams and then gave him an extension without him playing a single game with Zion. And now 40 games in he is looking for ways to salary dump him?

And when it comes to Bledsoe, if moving Bledsoe means hurting the return for Ball or using picks, that just means the trade from Milwaukee isnt as good as first thought, if they have to use assets to dump Bledsoe.

And the thing is, both Adams and Bledsoe were obvious bad fits. Everyone could see that coming from a mile away.


I would imagine that he would like to salary dump Bledsoe in any Ball trade, that doesn’t mean he’s going to be willing to take nothing of consequence in return. That only means that he’d like to include him in the deal.

Griffin is doing a really good job in NO, people are just being really impatient for results which is kinda mystifying. The rebuild just started 1.5 seasons ago for God’s sake! Let the young players mature, the picks to become players and the GM to finish his job.

Okay but my point is with attaching Bledsoe in a Ball trade, Bledsoe is a negative value so he will hurt the return on a Ball trade.

Ball by himself return > Ball + Bledsoe return

How is Griffin doing a really good job? The Zion pick and LA deal were both essentially handed to him. Lets look at some of the moves he has made so far

#4 pick traded for Hayes and NAW
1st round pick (then extension) for Adams (no looking to salary dump 40 games in)
lotto pick on Kira
Jrue trade, lots of future picks and the value of those really depends on if Giannis stays with the Bucks. After Giannis signed that big deal with them, the value of the 2025 and 2027 Bucks picks probably arent that high at the moment. And again they took back Bledsoe which is either going to cost them a pick to salary dump, or it will hurt the return of the Ball trade

Where is he doing a really good job at? Id take Deandre Hunter over Hayes/NAW any day of the week. Hell Id take Brandon Clarke over Hayes/NAW and he took NAW before Clarke. Im just not seeing the positive moves Griffin has done so far. The best moves under his time there have been the 2 that were handed to him.


Funny, but everyone praised the Hunter trade when it was made and throughout their rookie seasons. Now Hunter is playing better and the narrative has flipped.

Sure it would hurt the return, but perhaps Griffin has his eye on someone in free agency next year and that salary dump becomes extremely important. Or perhaps some playoff team talks themselves into Bledsoe and the cost of dumping him is just a 2nd round pick.

And if it’s Adams he wants to dump, that would look bad because he just traded for him and extended him. But at the same time, I much prefer a GM that recognizes and fixes a mistake early over one that does nothing because they fear the reaction from media and fans OR even worse, they refuse to admit they even made a mistake to begin with. That’s a bad GM. Bryan Colangelo refused to move on from Bargnani for 7 years and was fired. A couple of years later, Masai signed Demarre Carroll to a big free agent contract. It was obvious in season #1 that it wasn’t working out and he paid a 1st round pick to dump that contract in the off season. That takes balls and only good GM’s will do it.

Regardless, you can’t overreact to a rumor that literally has no detail to it. It’s like yelling at clouds. ;)
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Post#58 » by BAMAFREAK » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:21 am

None of the trades these “journalist” are throwing out there will happen. It’ll be stuff completely off the radar.
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Post#60 » by IgorK » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:27 am

I would be surprised to see Lowry in a Lakers uniform. Just doesn't seem like the kind of short-term move Lakers make after they clearly showed long-term vision by acquiring Dennis.

But if he's looking for a 2 year $50 mil extension, that may be a decent price & length for a guy who clearly impacts winning. If he was looking for 3 or 4 years, not so much.
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