Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[iamworthy]

So Drummond is a lock right? I hope Rob knows what he's doing with the Schroder and Trez contracts. As of right now, THT, Caruso, and Schroder are out the door because we didn't created any cap space for them.

We can sign them all to a contract. Just depends how much lakers want to go into the luxury tax. And when you sign Lebron and AD you cant afford to be cheap. Money will not be an issue.

[BEazy]

I think Ellington is going to get bought out. It should be Drummond, Ellington, and Bradley. I would pick those guys up in that order.

[nzahir]

Horrible decision not including THT to get Lowry. Like.. brutal decision.

If everyone's healthy, THT won't be in the rotation in the playoffs. KCP has looked dead for the last month and a half. Schroder, as good as he is, is not a great offensive fit next to LeBron especially down the stretch of playoff games. We needed more shooting on this roster and we got none of it.

Hell, even a deal like McKinnie + cash + 2nd round pick for a player like Wayne Ellington to give us KCP insurance would've been awesome.

I really think we're going to regret this day. I hope I'm wrong.

I can’t believe we couldn’t even trade for one shooter

[iamworthy]

I think Ellington is going to get bought out. It should be Drummond, Ellington, and Bradley. I would pick those guys up in that order.

Saw a tweet that said Ellington will not be bought out.

[BEazy]

I think Ellington is going to get bought out. It should be Drummond, Ellington, and Bradley. I would pick those guys up in that order.

Saw a tweet that said Ellington will not be bought out.

Really? Damn...Well I hope we can at least get Drummond and Bradley back. Bradley already knows the playbook so he won't have such a hard time meshing with the current group.

[kblo247]

So Drummond is a lock right? I hope Rob knows what he's doing with the Schroder and Trez contracts. As of right now, THT, Caruso, and Schroder are out the door because we didn't created any cap space for them.

You hav the bird rights to pay all three of them and still give Trez 11mil and get his early birds after next year, in fact no team can go over the price of the mle in years 1 and 2 for tht because of the Arenas rule. He didn’t need to make space for any of them. He can literally pay all of them and give markieff a raise too.

The one thing about all this Toronto talk is that we haven’t heard any of the hteee teams talked to Lowry about his extension he wanted so they all must have got shutdown by Toronto from go

[kblo247]

I think Ellington is going to get bought out. It should be Drummond, Ellington, and Bradley. I would pick those guys up in that order.

Saw a tweet that said Ellington will not be bought out.

Really? Damn...Well I hope we can at least get Drummond and Bradley back. Bradley already knows the playbook so he won't have such a hard time meshing with the current group.

At a certain point do you trust Bradley if you’re the team? He left you in the bubble and refused to join you. He opted out for the same money and went to the team that played you in the finals not even for more years when his bubble excuse was COVID exposure, yet moved to Florida to come off the bench. Now he’s been benched, got dealt, and isn’t in the same shape as last year

I wouldn’t trust him personally. I get the familiarity but he already spurned them twice

[kblo247]

We got 2 open roster spots and are 1.5m away from the apron. We will be able to sign 2 buyout players for the prorated vet min which is go be at about 600K and change next week. So we would take on about 1.2m in additional team salary

Brooklyn has a 5.7m DPE (via Dimwiddie injury) that does not prorate as well as a 5.6m Tax MLE that does prorate.

Miami has use of the prorated biannual exception still.

clips have roughly 2.4m in space before they hit the apron and have 2 open roster spots.

The Bucks are 3.5m away from hitting the apron and have 2 roster spots.They have no exemptions just vet mins to give out.

Phoenix has 1 open roster spot and has 10m+ from the apron so they can use the full prorated biannual exception still.

Boston has to cut some players, but are 4.5m away from the hard cap and can use the full biannual exception after their trades

Phili and Denver currently have no roster spots open.

The Knicks and Okc are non-contenders, but have 15m and 9m in cap space

[Kilroy]

So Drummond is a lock right? I hope Rob knows what he's doing with the Schroder and Trez contracts. As of right now, THT, Caruso, and Schroder are out the door because we didn't created any cap space for them.

We can sign them all to a contract. Just depends how much lakers want to go into the luxury tax. And when you sign Lebron and AD you cant afford to be cheap. Money will not be an issue.

The NBA also just said they plan on the TV and Cable contracts are going to increase 243%... Safe to say the cap is going to move to the north quite a bit...

[Kilroy]

Yeah, I jumped way off the Bradley bandwagon before the bubble and have no intention of jumping back on... He answers no question this team has at the moment.

[BEazy]

What do yall think about John Wall? Rockets reported that he's discussing a buy out with them.

[Kilroy]

What do yall think about John Wall? Rockets reported that he's discussing a buy out with them.

Oh, I'd be all for that for the right price, and if he could accept a role similar to Rondo in the playoffs... If he's intent on being a focus of the offense or a 1 or 2 guy, he can go elsewhere... He seems to be a bit of a cancer... That said, so was Rondo for some teams...

Wall can create and has excellent vision and passing abilities... His problem seems to be he needs all the attention...

[dAdo dA dEvil]

What do yall think about John Wall? Rockets reported that he's discussing a buy out with them.

Wall and Drummond sounds good to me.

[kblo247]

Horrible decision not including THT to get Lowry. Like.. brutal decision.

If everyone's healthy, THT won't be in the rotation in the playoffs. KCP has looked dead for the last month and a half. Schroder, as good as he is, is not a great offensive fit next to LeBron especially down the stretch of playoff games. We needed more shooting on this roster and we got none of it.

Hell, even a deal like McKinnie + cash + 2nd round pick for a player like Wayne Ellington to give us KCP insurance would've been awesome.

I really think we're going to regret this day. I hope I'm wrong.

I can’t believe we couldn’t even trade for one shooter

Kcp is at 40
Caruso is at 39
Kuzma is at 37
Marc is at 36

Markieff is at 33 but has been at 39 the last month
Wes is at 34 but has been at 37 the last month

Realistically you got to get Dennis, Bron, and AD hitting too but that’s enough to get by in the playoffs. It’s just as the bodies drop those open ones become contested ones.

Dennis is at 31 on the season but has been at 35 for the past month. Lebron is at 37 but he always go be streaky. And AD last year in the playoffs hit at 38.

Shooting isn’t going to be a problem in the playoffs as those threes are going to weigh more. “Shooters” don’t shoot well in purple and gold and “shooters” don’t shoot the same in the playoffs either just look at Dame, Peja, Paul George all who can’t throw a three in the ocean in games that matter

[kblo247]

So Drummond is a lock right? I hope Rob knows what he's doing with the Schroder and Trez contracts. As of right now, THT, Caruso, and Schroder are out the door because we didn't created any cap space for them.

We can sign them all to a contract. Just depends how much lakers want to go into the luxury tax. And when you sign Lebron and AD you cant afford to be cheap. Money will not be an issue.

The NBA also just said they plan on the TV and Cable contracts are going to increase 243%... Safe to say the cap is going to move to the north quite a bit...

And the luxury tax is going to be smoothed out this year and next without fans. One reason the warriors ate the Oubre bullet was that they don’t have to pay the full tax bill

[nzahir]

Horrible decision not including THT to get Lowry. Like.. brutal decision.

If everyone's healthy, THT won't be in the rotation in the playoffs. KCP has looked dead for the last month and a half. Schroder, as good as he is, is not a great offensive fit next to LeBron especially down the stretch of playoff games. We needed more shooting on this roster and we got none of it.

Hell, even a deal like McKinnie + cash + 2nd round pick for a player like Wayne Ellington to give us KCP insurance would've been awesome.

I really think we're going to regret this day. I hope I'm wrong.

I can’t believe we couldn’t even trade for one shooter

Kcp is at 40
Caruso is at 39
Kuzma is at 37
Marc is at 36

Markieff is at 33 but has been at 39 the last month
Wes is at 34 but has been at 37 the last month

Realistically you got to get Dennis, Bron, and AD hitting too but that’s enough to get by in the playoffs. It’s just as the bodies drop those open ones become contested ones.

Dennis is at 31 on the season but has been at 35 for the past month. Lebron is at 37 but he always go be streaky. And AD last year in the playoffs hit at 38.

Shooting isn’t going to be a problem in the playoffs as those threes are going to weigh more. “Shooters” don’t shoot well in purple and gold and “shooters” don’t shoot the same in the playoffs either just look at Dame, Peja, Paul George all who can’t throw a three in the ocean in games that matter

You understand volume matters right?

Low volume shooters are generally guys who can only shoot super wide open shots

[kblo247]

I can’t believe we couldn’t even trade for one shooter

Kcp is at 40
Caruso is at 39
Kuzma is at 37
Marc is at 36

Markieff is at 33 but has been at 39 the last month
Wes is at 34 but has been at 37 the last month

Realistically you got to get Dennis, Bron, and AD hitting too but that’s enough to get by in the playoffs. It’s just as the bodies drop those open ones become contested ones.

Dennis is at 31 on the season but has been at 35 for the past month. Lebron is at 37 but he always go be streaky. And AD last year in the playoffs hit at 38.

Shooting isn’t going to be a problem in the playoffs as those threes are going to weigh more. “Shooters” don’t shoot well in purple and gold and “shooters” don’t shoot the same in the playoffs either just look at Dame, Peja, Paul George all who can’t throw a three in the ocean in games that matter

You understand volume matters right?

Low volume shooters are generally guys who can only shoot super wide open shots

Yea I do and I also understand they will never be high volume shooters because Bron and AD are going to eat. There aren’t that many shot attempts to go around period, so they are going to have to hit timely big shots. KCP, Caruso, Kuzma, and Markieff have shown they will do that. Marc has shown he can do that. I’m not speaking on Wes or THT because I don’t think playoff mins are there on the perimeter personally. The low volume and timely shots have worked for the Lakers be it last year, Kobe/Pau, and Kobe/Shaq teams. The low volume shots have worked for Bron/Wade and Bron/Kylie teams too, they rely on isos and getting you in foul trouble mostly.

Volume three point shooting works if you’re Golden State, but it didn’t work for the Rockets. It has never worked for dame, in fact Dames efficiency nose dives in the playoffs. It didn’t work for the clippers last year. And the Jazz are going to get bounced on their ass so quick you will blink too when those same volume threes becomes contested because a coach can pick it apart in film sessions for 2 weeks like Vogel picked apart Portland and Houston

[wco81]

So Drummond is a lock right? I hope Rob knows what he's doing with the Schroder and Trez contracts. As of right now, THT, Caruso, and Schroder are out the door because we didn't created any cap space for them.

We can sign them all to a contract. Just depends how much lakers want to go into the luxury tax. And when you sign Lebron and AD you cant afford to be cheap. Money will not be an issue.

The NBA also just said they plan on the TV and Cable contracts are going to increase 243%... Safe to say the cap is going to move to the north quite a bit...

NBA said they wanted $75 billion for 9 years. Current deal runs through 2024-25 and is for $24 billion.

NFL just signed a $110 billion deal for 11 years.

NFL gets huge ratings, the NBA doesn't always, depending on the national TV matchups and playoffs, especially the Finals.

So NBA is looking for almost triple the current deal, which was already a huge increase over the previous deal.

Saying what they want and getting it are two different things.


In any event, doesn't the Lakers get more from local TV contract than the national NBA contract?

Why worry about luxury tax when there's a chance for a dynasty?

[kblo247]

We can sign them all to a contract. Just depends how much lakers want to go into the luxury tax. And when you sign Lebron and AD you cant afford to be cheap. Money will not be an issue.

The NBA also just said they plan on the TV and Cable contracts are going to increase 243%... Safe to say the cap is going to move to the north quite a bit...

NBA said they wanted $75 billion for 9 years. Current deal runs through 2024-25 and is for $24 billion.

NFL just signed a $110 billion deal for 11 years.

NFL gets huge ratings, the NBA doesn't always, depending on the national TV matchups and playoffs, especially the Finals.

So NBA is looking for almost triple the current deal, which was already a huge increase over the previous deal.

Saying what they want and getting it are two different things.


In any event, doesn't the Lakers get more from local TV contract than the national NBA contract?

Why worry about luxury tax when there's a chance for a dynasty?

One thing to always remember is that the Lakers majority owners business is the Lakers. The Buss family aren’t like the other 29 teams where they use a business to pay for their team. They make their money off their team and it’s their sole business. So it matters

[iamworthy]

Its been reported that the Lakers and Dennis are a ways away in contract negotiations, not good.