It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[CeltsfaninDC]

WE TRADED THEIS FOR WHO?!?!?!??

Think this guy was one of them.

I was too lazy to look up the gif for this, but same thought

[SmartWentCrazy]

Ainge has already said Timelord can’t handle more than 25 minutes consistently. This doesn’t suddenly make him a 30 MPG starter lol

Can you link me this quote?

[zoyathedestroya]

Repost from the Theis thread:

Theis ends his Celtics career as the franchise leader in 2-pt FG%, effective FG%, and offensive rating (since 1977), per BBRef.

[Celtics1918]

Fournier gives the Jays someone they will be able to trust to take and make big shots. This move will make them better players, IMO.

It also takes pressure of Kemba opens up the floor for him. Now he needs to knock down his jumper.

Also opens more of the drive game for him, as well as the Jays.

Yes Kemba will benefit most from this trade the jays aren't struggling like Kemba is this season.

[Wes-J]

I still feel one of the reasons we traded Theis was to force Stevens to play Williams more during closes. We need to force him to develop.

If anybody other than Rob starts at center Friday -- Wagner, Grant, Kornet) I'm done, cash me out.

[themoneyteam2]

Ainge has already said Timelord can’t handle more than 25 minutes consistently. This doesn’t suddenly make him a 30 MPG starter lol

Can you link me this quote?

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/03/18/danny-ainge-explains-robert-williams-limited-minutes-on-toucher-rich/

[SLCceltic]

If they didn’t need to get rid of Theis why did they then?

He was going into free agency and Ainge went with a younger, taller, less expensive alternative. See Belichick.

Who is also going to free agency after 30 games. That’s the issue lol. Trade an expiring for an expiring.

I understand it was to get under the tax.

I love DT ! but I believe he is a perfect representation of this team ....good and hardworking but not good enough to contend

moving Theis also allows for us to bring in LmA or Drummond ! I want both !! I believe we will get at least one of these guys LmA would give us 5 very good 3pt shooters on floor at the same time ! drummond will gobble up rebounds and finish in the paint at much higher rate that TT ....both these guys along with Fournier give us plenty to throw at Philly bucks and Heat...

[SLCceltic]

evan Fournier will wreak HAVOC as 4th option ! LOVE his all-around game ..!

[robdog_5]

I'd prefer Smart to start and Kemba to come off bench and be microwave scorer. The first 6 mins are always awkward because we have 3 ball dominant players.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Ainge has already said Timelord can’t handle more than 25 minutes consistently. This doesn’t suddenly make him a 30 MPG starter lol

Can you link me this quote?

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/03/18/danny-ainge-explains-robert-williams-limited-minutes-on-toucher-rich/

Seems that he’s saying that were trying to build up Robs stamina to allow him to play a larger share of minutes at his current energy level. Feels like trading Theis would be the next step in allowing him to continue to grow his load.

[zoyathedestroya]

OT but Isaiah Thomas' Celtics franchise record of career points per game of 24.7 ppg might not be broken for a while. It was just for 2.5 seasons, but that was an insane run in terms of offensive firepower and proficiency.

Sorry, from IT to Crowder to Amir to Theis, I just love my ham-and-eggers lol.

[themoneyteam2]

He was going into free agency and Ainge went with a younger, taller, less expensive alternative. See Belichick.

Who is also going to free agency after 30 games. That’s the issue lol. Trade an expiring for an expiring.

I understand it was to get under the tax.

I love DT ! but I believe he is a perfect representation of this team ....good and hardworking but not good enough to contend

moving Theis also allows for us to bring in LmA or Drummond ! I want both !! I believe we will get at least one of these guys LmA would give us 5 very good 3pt shooters on floor at the same time ! drummond will gobble up rebounds and finish in the paint at much higher rate that TT ....both these guys along with Fournier give us plenty to throw at Philly bucks and Heat...

Hate to break it to ya but LMA and Drummond are not signing here...

[themoneyteam2]

A less talented roster than this made the ECF last year which is why it's frustrating how bad they are this year. I think Fournier will really help spacing and taking pressure off of Brown and Tatum specifically.

Celtics are so easy to gameplan for because teams just load up on JB and JT and dare everyone else to beat them (which they can't)

[SLCceltic]

It also takes pressure of Kemba opens up the floor for him. Now he needs to knock down his jumper.

Also opens more of the drive game for him, as well as the Jays.

Yes Kemba will benefit most from this trade the jays aren't struggling like Kemba is this season.

Oh ya ! EF next to jays helps Kemba ALOT !!

[JediMasterRevan]

We have to get off the dump Kemba. We aren't going to dump him. He is too good to dump. Stop with acting like he is Vin Baker.

We aren't looking to trade Kemba for nothing. That's dumb. We are looking to get him healthy (which he is) and playing well (which he isn't).

Hopefully Fournier is a player who can make shots and open up the lane for Kemba.

So.

Happens all the time. Players go from great to crap.

This team doesnt fit him ss much as he doesnt fit the team

Kemba sucks and will not look good on this team until he at least comes off the bench

Dude was third team all nba two years ago. All star before hurt, and hasn't played well.

[reload141]

I can't believe we are going to win Banner 18 with this team this year, can't see us losing another game.

Wild times.

[soxfan2003]

We have to get off the dump Kemba. We aren't going to dump him. He is too good to dump. Stop with acting like he is Vin Baker.

We aren't looking to trade Kemba for nothing. That's dumb. We are looking to get him healthy (which he is) and playing well (which he isn't).

Hopefully Fournier is a player who can make shots and open up the lane for Kemba.

Kemba sucks and will not look good on this team until he at least comes off the bench

Dude was third team all nba two years ago. All star before hurt, and hasn't played well.

That was a really bad selection and it was panned at the time. He made it over Klay Thompson. I am no huge Klay fan but he at least twice as good as Kemba. Other players better as well.

Kemba was a really bad signing. You only pay a few short PGs the max entering their 30's and perhaps the only weak defender at PG under 6"2 I would consider paying the max entering his 30's was Steve Nash. Chris Paul decent defender entering his 30's for a PG... The previous knee surgeries is why is was truly a disastrous signing. Celtics should take their chances on players with shaky health if the upside is worth the downside. With Kemba it clearly wasn't.

I am so opposed to paying most 1 way PGs the max that I must admit unless I knew he could bring KD to the Celtics, I would let Kyrie Irving walk as well if the Celtics didn't already have a great big man at least which the team doesn't. Kyrie has his own health concerns. It is one thing to take your chances on these players from 22-28 when they have health issues but later on it can just be a ticking time bomb.

Kemba didn't have to decline much to be an average starting PG in the NBA that is a poor fit with the Celtics. Do you really want to be playing such a player the max?

[SLCceltic]

Who is also going to free agency after 30 games. That’s the issue lol. Trade an expiring for an expiring.

I understand it was to get under the tax.

I love DT ! but I believe he is a perfect representation of this team ....good and hardworking but not good enough to contend

moving Theis also allows for us to bring in LmA or Drummond ! I want both !! I believe we will get at least one of these guys LmA would give us 5 very good 3pt shooters on floor at the same time ! drummond will gobble up rebounds and finish in the paint at much higher rate that TT ....both these guys along with Fournier give us plenty to throw at Philly bucks and Heat...

Hate to break it to ya but LMA and Drummond are not signing here...

I think LmA will...
Drummond is certainly in play !

[sam_I_am]

I don’t covet a single player traded today. Vukevic might have brought some fire power to center spot but I don’t want a center who can’t defend locked in for 2 years at that salary. I wanted Gordon because it would be fun to see more defense and athleticism but the price was too high and he doesn’t get us anywhere special. Oladipo is a bad fit and George Hill is less exciting than Fournier. Norman Powell might be better 2 way player than Fournier but I like Evan’s height better.

So given nothing great happened today, Ainge didn’t really miss out. If you think we should have emptied cupboard to bring Vukevic and Gordon and traded Smart to do it so that we could be a “contender” this year.....I just don’t think it’s a good plan.

So we lost our TPE but Danny has a backup plan. Smart and TT combined are a 24 million expiring contract and combined with a young player ( PP, Langford or Nesmith ) can easily get us a better player than the TPE could have.

Losing Theis hurts. We are worse for that, no doubt. But now the team can let Timelord shine and either become the stud we need or at least become a bigger asset in a future trade.

Finally, if Evan F ends up being a rental .... we lost nothing of value and we still have Nesmith and Langford as understudies.

This could be a lost year. However, we did get to ECF last year with a lesser roster. TT and RW could pop. Fournier might not bring Hayward’s all around game but he might do what we actually needed from Hayward last year which was to just shoot the ball when he’s wide open.

One more thing.....we have more money to offer players bought out than our competitors. Maybe LaMarcus and Drummond would rather play in LA and Miami.....but Danny can pay them more. Either will be massive upgrade from Theis on this current roster if we can sign one.

Agree completely. It is obvious that no one of consequence was actually available, or if they were the cost was too high.

Fournier should help because he is a lot better than any wing on the team not named Brown or Tatum.

I don’t quite understand the Theis move, if Wagner is a UFA, couldn’t they have thrown another asset at the Bulls and tried to get Markkinen instead? I don’t like the idea of giving up such a solid player just because he will probably leave in the off season if the return is so uninspiring. I guess they are wanting to give Rob Williams more of a roll.

My only main concern is one of Fournier, Smart or Walker will need to come off the bench (and it probably shouldn’t be Fournier) so that creates some potential head aches for the coaching staff as Walker and Smart probably both think they should start.

Smart off the bench. He's a 25 minute guy off the bench. When he goes 30 or more its a problem.

The lineup is:

Walker/Fournier/Brown/Tatum/Thompson

Bench: Smart, Williams, PP and then we start searching.

Theis has to be odd man out. He doesn't have the size at center we need.

I don’t think you can play Walker, PP and Evans together for any length of time. Smart and Walker start with Walker exiting early for Fournier. Will probably see more Brown at 2 alongside PP or Walker and Semi, Grant or TT at PF.

[FlyBono]

What Celtic players could be bought bout?