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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#21 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:20 am

Setshot33 wrote:What's funny?

After all the wheeling and dealing with draft picks and the tinkering around the trade deadline...Danny has basically bought himself a .500 treadmill.

Good job.


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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#22 » by greenroom31 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:21 am

I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#23 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:23 am

greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#24 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:23 am

Embiid is playing like an MVP. Simmons a DPOY. I don't even know where our defense went. We also currently don't have a top 10 player. Might not even be top 15.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#25 » by Ill News » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:23 am

That Fournier absence was a real curveball, it really seemed to throw the offense out of whack. Forced Brad to play Semi again, which is never a good thing.

The minute Rob got his second foul, I knew we'd be due for a loss. Tatum and Brown just fail way too often to inspire this team with their play when they're down, and that's unacceptable. They're not worthy of being called All-Stars if they keep disappearing against good teams, like they did against the Mavs, Pels, and now the Sixers.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#26 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:26 am

I don’t think many here expected to win the game but 14 turnovers in a half, no shows from the jays, lackadaisical defense and worse offense is AOS worthy to me
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#27 » by playa-hater » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:27 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


well we did have Fournier in those 2 weak azz victories.. would have been nice to have him today.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

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greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#29 » by bucknersrevenge » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:27 am

The good:

I'm honestly not sure. We shot the ball decent percentage-wise when we shot it. 46/39/83 So that's something, kinda...I dunno. Luke Kornet wasn't...awful. He wasn't good. But he could've been worse? Really there wasn't a lot within the game. I guess it's good that tomorrow's game with NYK is more important than this one. Yeah...

The bad:

Well...we're back below .500...again. It's like Groundhog's Day in here. I REALLY hate losing to Philly. I mean, I hate it. How bad was this game? Let me count the ways. We lost by only 10 but this game was over inside 3 minutes into the 3rdQ. 20 turnovers, 14 in the 1st half really did us in. I've seen better ball security in a pair of assless chaps. 16 of them by starters none of which who came to play. Smart turned back into a pumpkin again with 6 turnovers. We shot the ball well but only 70 shots. Only 34 3's taken. We're not gonna beat anyone with that few shots, like ever. Rob took himself out of the game early with foul trouble at the beginning of both halves as he decided that he would rather watch this one from the seats. He eventually fouled out after an inconsequential 14 minutes. You're a starter now Rob. You have to learn how to play with fouls. This team relies on you to be there. Speaking of not being there, of course no FournHub tonight due to Health & Safety protocols again. I'd rather he have just caught pink eye from rubbing his face in the asses of the girls from Paul Pierce's stripper party but no. And we are told not to expect him for the rest of the week which probably means the next 3 games. We cannot catch a break. Embiid looked like an MVP tonight which wasn't hard to do. He dominated really without trying to hard. He took 20 FTs. There were a few sequences where he wouldn't challenge Tacko inside but it was never really anything to be worried about. When he needed to get back into the paint he did. And when our offense slowed up and guys stopped cutting and started watching, we stopped defending at the other end. Bad game for Jaylen too who would've been invisible for this game if he wasn't getting punished on defense. Oh and Grant is the personification of Chernobyl right now. He's a disaster and someone keeps covering up his impact. Yep, this was a ****. But no rest for the weary, we need turn right around and get ready for the Knicks.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#30 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:28 am

Would still have liked to see how this team would have looked with Fournier out there and yes it’s a big deal when he’s out considering who is behind him and the amount of pressure it puts on Tatum and brown to deliver with all the attention on them.

Kemba is gonna kill this franchise. Smart is washed. Sixers are picking up vets like Green and Curry while Ainge drafts inexperienced babies thinking they will contribute to a team that should’ve had the mindset of being contenders in the east.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#31 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:29 am

Fournier definitely helps a little bit but they're three best players, Walker, Brown and Tatum are shoot first sometimes selfish ISO players. As long as these three are the cornerstones this team's going to struggle no matter who was on the bench
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#32 » by Bar Fight » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:30 am

JHTruth wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens

Beating a tanking Houston team with a rotation of players most people have never heard of and a decimated Charlotte team led by Terry Rozier aren't "great wins"
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#33 » by greenroom31 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:30 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


well we did have Fournier in those 2 weak azz victories.. would have been nice to have him today.


I also enjoyed watching Fournier make a bunch of 3s the last couple of games against bum teams. But he doesn’t make us better than Philly. Or Brooklyn. Or Milwaukee or Miami.

I will be really surprised if we make it past the 1st round this year (not counting play-ins)
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#34 » by SRM82 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:33 am

We are just too big, too talented, too skilled, and Doc is just a lot better coach than Opie Taylor.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#35 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:33 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:I hope we see much less Robert Williams is a star after tonight. 6'8" centers with low BBIQ don't stack up well against true centers. We've managed to avoid many of those recently due to injuries/rest but tonight gives you the reality of the situation. Also, if your best player is Jaylen Brown you aren't going anywhere. He's got to have some of the worst hands and BBIQ in the league for a SG and is just an average defender now.
If I'm Nesmith I'm begging my agent to get me the hell out of here. Langford isn't it. And to lose minutes to him, Semi, and Grant Williams means Brad has something personal against him.
Don't worry, we'll face some more teams absent multiple starters so everyone can pretend TimeLord is special and we're golden now that Langford is back. Fret not.

lol such a misinformed post. Time Lord is 6'8" but he's got a 7'6" wingspan and a 40 inch vertical leap so he plays much bigger.

His basketball IQ needs some work but he's only 23 - he's still developing and has shown that he's a very hard worker so he'll keep getting better.

Time Lord is currently 1st on the Celtics in every one of the following categories:
-Offensive Rating
-Defensive Rating
-Win Shares
-Offensive Win Shares
-Defensive Win Shares (tied with Tatum)
-BPM (Box Score Plus Minus)
-PER
-TS% (True Shooting %)
-Rebounding % (tied with Thompson)
-Blocks %
-Blocks per game
-FG%
-Steal %

Now let's see where he ranks among all players in the entire NBA:
-1st in Offensive Rating
-1st in blocks %
-2nd in TS%
-2nd in FG%
-3rd in Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
-5th in rebounding %
-5th in PER
-8th in Defensive Rating
-8th in BPM (above Kawhi Leonard and James Harden)
-13th in Steal %

He's also:
-3rd on the Celtics in VORP (only behind Tatum and Brown)
-5th on the Celtics in assist %

Per 36 minutes, he's averaging 15.8 points, 13.4 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 3.7 blocks and 1.7 steals

Tonight was an off game. Everyone has them sometimes. But when you take a step back and look at the big picture and what he has done this season as a whole, it's pretty impressive.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#36 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:33 am

JHTruth wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.


I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens


Beating the sixers tonight would have been a great win; beating the rockets, a team that lost 20 games in a row and is completely tanking and beating a hornets team with their best players out is hardly what I consider great wins.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#37 » by threrf23 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:33 am

Philly tends to be a tough matchup for us. Our offense is too reliant on shooting and that makes us reliant on rhythm and it's tough to establish rhythm when you are getting pushed around by Embiid/Dwight/Simmons. Timelord has been a needed revelation, but he doesn't gives us the physical presence (nor the savvy presence) necessary to match up here.

Lose Fournier & TT & find out the whole team has prob been exposed to Covid, and we can't complain about a 10 point loss.
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Post#38 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:35 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens


Beating the sixers tonight would have been a great win; beating the rockets, a team that lost 20 games in a row and is completely tanking and beating a hornets team with their best players out is hardly what I consider great wins.


I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.

Celtics are not a contender this year. Yet everyone thinks we need to fire everyone after we lose to a superior team. Maybe time to adjust expectations
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Post#39 » by Ill News » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:36 am

greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.

I wasn't expecting a win, but I would've been happy with a loss had they played like they did in the last two games, with great effort and ball movement. Unfortunately, the Sixers defense is that good; they disrupted so many passes and forced many tough shots. Didn't help that our guys were absolutely careless and lackadaisical with the ball. So many goddamn turnovers.

Overall, just a disappointing effort. I could've lived with this loss had they played better, but they didn't. I'm sure others feel the same way.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#40 » by playa-hater » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:37 am

Sadly I think my worst fear will come to pass. Purgatory.. Too good to tank and too azz to get a good playoff spot. damn any and all responsible for this..
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