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Re: 2025/26 NBA top10 

Post#21 » by Statlanta » Fri Apr 9, 2021 2:55 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
Statlanta wrote:1. Nikola Jokic
2. Luka Doncic
3. Giannis Antetokoumpo
4. Anthony Davis
5. Donovan Mitchell
6. Devin Booker
7. Jamal Murray
8. Jayson Tatum
9. Ben Simmons
10. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander



Lower on Williamson, Ball and Morant. Those are some garbage franchises those guys will have to carry to the playoffs.

What are you expecting from MItchell to assume he will be a top5 player?
He's very far from that at this point, where do you see his development coming from?


He’s better than most of these players already. 2nd best player on the best team in the league. He has more playoff experience than some a good amount of these guys as well. Utah is a consistent franchise in being good so I don’t have to worry about bad teammates. Pretty good injury history as well. I trust him to improve his shooting as Gobert declines.
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Re: 2025/26 NBA top10 

Post#22 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun Feb 5, 2023 7:12 pm

Looking back at my list:
- MPj is likely not happening, the injuries will likely prevent him from developing the way I was thinking at the time
- LaMelo's brand is down, it might be a reach but he could really explode if he puts it together
- I totally didn't see SGA coming, at this level
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Post#23 » by OhayoKD » Mon Feb 6, 2023 2:09 am

1. Luka, is arguably top 3 already, should be at or close to his apex.
2. Zion, already flashes of superstardom, concerned about health, but I think prime Zion is in the best player itw conversation
3. Jokic, arguably top 3, his game should age gracefully
4. Giannis, not sure how well his game ages, but he's probably the best player itw right now so
5. Tatum Should be at or near his peak and is already top 10 imo so
6.Trae, same logic as Tatum, concerns about his defense/size though
7. JJJ, one of the more diverse ranges of outcomes. Seems like he's set to become or push for being the best defender in the league, and has a rare strength in terms of his shooting. If he can find a way to have his offense and defense scale simultaneously, he could be even higher tbh.
8. Ja, concerned about how much value there's left to unearth, also don't think his playstyle ages the best, ect.
9. Lamelo, one of the best young players, should be around his apex
10. Embid, one of the best players but health concerns and limited playmaking make me think he won't age too well
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Post#24 » by DraymondGold » Mon Feb 6, 2023 6:45 am

OhayoKD wrote:1. Luka, is arguably top 3 already, should be at or close to his apex.
2. Zion, already flashes of superstardom, concerned about health, but I think prime Zion is in the best player itw conversation
3. Jokic, arguably top 3, his game should age gracefully
4. Giannis, not sure how well his game ages, but he's probably the best player itw right now so
5. Tatum Should be at or near his peak and is already top 10 imo so
6.Trae, same logic as Tatum, concerns about his defense/size though
7. JJJ, one of the more diverse ranges of outcomes. Seems like he's set to become or push for being the best defender in the league, and has a rare strength in terms of his shooting. If he can find a way to have his offense and defense scale simultaneously, he could be even higher tbh.
8. Ja, concerned about how much value there's left to unearth, also don't think his playstyle ages the best, ect.
9. Lamelo, one of the best young players, should be around his apex
10. Embid, one of the best players but health concerns and limited playmaking make me think he won't age too well
Nice list! Do you (or does anyone else) see any top 10 potential for the various up-and-coming defensive studs?

Like Robert Williams, Jaren Jackson Jr, Jarrett Allen / Evan Mobley, etc. It feels like there's a group of young mobile defensive bigs, and I'm still trying to figure out how they compare and where they're headed
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Post#25 » by Dutchball97 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 7:53 am

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OhayoKD wrote:1. Luka, is arguably top 3 already, should be at or close to his apex.
2. Zion, already flashes of superstardom, concerned about health, but I think prime Zion is in the best player itw conversation
3. Jokic, arguably top 3, his game should age gracefully
4. Giannis, not sure how well his game ages, but he's probably the best player itw right now so
5. Tatum Should be at or near his peak and is already top 10 imo so
6.Trae, same logic as Tatum, concerns about his defense/size though
7. JJJ, one of the more diverse ranges of outcomes. Seems like he's set to become or push for being the best defender in the league, and has a rare strength in terms of his shooting. If he can find a way to have his offense and defense scale simultaneously, he could be even higher tbh.
8. Ja, concerned about how much value there's left to unearth, also don't think his playstyle ages the best, ect.
9. Lamelo, one of the best young players, should be around his apex
10. Embid, one of the best players but health concerns and limited playmaking make me think he won't age too well
Nice list! Do you (or does anyone else) see any top 10 potential for the various up-and-coming defensive studs?

Like Robert Williams, Jaren Jackson Jr, Jarrett Allen / Evan Mobley, etc. It feels like there's a group of young mobile defensive bigs, and I'm still trying to figure out how they compare and where they're headed


JJJ seems ro have the highest ceiling. He's already having All-NBA impact in the minutes he's playing although his health and his fouls are both a concern as to his ability to have that kind of impact consistently enough to actually become a top 10 guy.

Robert Williams is a guy I was looking at as a "next Jokic" for a while in the sense that Jokic was also generating pretty elite impact well before he got recognized as a star. For example his sophomore season Jokic didn't start every game and averaged 28mpg but his boxscore metrics were already at the level of 2018-2020. The problem here is that Williams only played over 1k minutes in a season once so far and never reached 2k minutes yet. I still think he has all the potential in the world but every year it doesn't manifest makes it less likely he'll ever reach there. He also doesn't really seem to be improving that much, probably due to his limited minutes. At this point I could see an All-Star nod here or there when he puts together a healthy season but I'm not expecting this to become a consistent trajectory.

Jarrett Allen seems like a pretty sure thing to me but I'm unsure how much higher his ceiling is. For him to be regarded as a top 10 player he'd probably need more consistency among the top defenders like Gobert did for years and despite how much **** Gobert gets, that's a pretty high bar to clear.

The jury is still out on Mobley. He had a very promising rookie season and is now having an ok sophomore campaign. He's not regressing but not really making a lot of steps either but it's way too early to tell if he's already close to his ceiling or if there's still a lot more untapped potential left.

The biggest one is probably Bam though. The main difference here is consistency as Bam has been playing big minutes, in a pivotal role for a couple years already now. He's also a better offensive player than the other guys mentioned, while being every bit ad capable defensively. If any young versatile big is going to reach stardom it's probably him.
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Post#26 » by ShaqAttac » Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:08 am

ad would be top 5 if he could play
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Post#27 » by OhayoKD » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:12 am

ShaqAttac wrote:ad would be top 5 if he could play

He might be top 1 honestly.
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Post#28 » by OhayoKD » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:23 am

Dutchball97 wrote:
DraymondGold wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:1. Luka, is arguably top 3 already, should be at or close to his apex.
2. Zion, already flashes of superstardom, concerned about health, but I think prime Zion is in the best player itw conversation
3. Jokic, arguably top 3, his game should age gracefully
4. Giannis, not sure how well his game ages, but he's probably the best player itw right now so
5. Tatum Should be at or near his peak and is already top 10 imo so
6.Trae, same logic as Tatum, concerns about his defense/size though
7. JJJ, one of the more diverse ranges of outcomes. Seems like he's set to become or push for being the best defender in the league, and has a rare strength in terms of his shooting. If he can find a way to have his offense and defense scale simultaneously, he could be even higher tbh.
8. Ja, concerned about how much value there's left to unearth, also don't think his playstyle ages the best, ect.
9. Lamelo, one of the best young players, should be around his apex
10. Embid, one of the best players but health concerns and limited playmaking make me think he won't age too well
Nice list! Do you (or does anyone else) see any top 10 potential for the various up-and-coming defensive studs?

Like Robert Williams, Jaren Jackson Jr, Jarrett Allen / Evan Mobley, etc. It feels like there's a group of young mobile defensive bigs, and I'm still trying to figure out how they compare and where they're headed


JJJ seems ro have the highest ceiling. He's already having All-NBA impact in the minutes he's playing although his health and his fouls are both a concern as to his ability to have that kind of impact consistently enough to actually become a top 10 guy.

Robert Williams is a guy I was looking at as a "next Jokic" for a while in the sense that Jokic was also generating pretty elite impact well before he got recognized as a star. For example his sophomore season Jokic didn't start every game and averaged 28mpg but his boxscore metrics were already at the level of 2018-2020. The problem here is that Williams only played over 1k minutes in a season once so far and never reached 2k minutes yet. I still think he has all the potential in the world but every year it doesn't manifest makes it less likely he'll ever reach there. He also doesn't really seem to be improving that much, probably due to his limited minutes. At this point I could see an All-Star nod here or there when he puts together a healthy season but I'm not expecting this to become a consistent trajectory.

Jarrett Allen seems like a pretty sure thing to me but I'm unsure how much higher his ceiling is. For him to be regarded as a top 10 player he'd probably need more consistency among the top defenders like Gobert did for years and despite how much **** Gobert gets, that's a pretty high bar to clear.

The jury is still out on Mobley. He had a very promising rookie season and is now having an ok sophomore campaign. He's not regressing but not really making a lot of steps either but it's way too early to tell if he's already close to his ceiling or if there's still a lot more untapped potential left.

The biggest one is probably Bam though. The main difference here is consistency as Bam has been playing big minutes, in a pivotal role for a couple years already now. He's also a better offensive player than the other guys mentioned, while being every bit ad capable defensively. If any young versatile big is going to reach stardom it's probably him.

I would have projected BAM to be top 10 right now in 2020. Doesn't seem to have made much progress though and he's not exactly young anymore. Problem for the non-JJJ's/Bam's is I don't see much offensive upside. Despite mulitiple serious injuries impeding him, JJJ has been able to up his efficiency while maintaining decent volume and ramping up his defense. Additionally, because he offers some scoring threat both inside and outside, any playmaking improvement should have a multiplicative effect.
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Re: 2025/26 NBA top10 

Post#29 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 7, 2023 2:41 am

Embiid not on anyone's list? Are people expecting him to go down like Yao and Walton?
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Post#30 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:05 am

I don't think too much changes at top if we're not counting new players like Wemby but some surprises after that

1. Giannis (age 31) - skill game has developed a bit, more of a two way player than 1b Jokic
2. Jokic (age 30) - coasting a bit more in reg season but still dominant
3. Doncic (age 26) - in his prime but I think Jokic and Giannis are better until proven otherwise
4. Davis (age 32) - he somehow gets it together health wise and ends up still an elite player near the end of his prime
5. Haliburton (age 25) - sleeper MVP candidate breakout who keeps disproving his ceiling
6. Tatum (age 27) - he is a few years younger than he feels like, so I'm going to give him some credit that he can keep getting better
7. Embiid (age 31) - in roughly same spot as now, a little more flawed than his reg season stats imo
8. JJJ (age 26) - he blows up and becomes the superstar in Memphis while Ja is on another team and becomes more of this era's Marbury/Stevie Franchise
9. Kawhi (age 34) - Kawhi actually makes a full comeback starting with 1st team all nba in 23-24 and his game ages well enough to still be in top 10
10. Garland (age 26) - Reaches new level in his career as true superstar

Fading:

Zion - biggest injury what if of this era. I'd say he could be #1 if he turns it around health wise.
SGA - 22-23 is his career season, recedes into a good player but just outside top 10
Lamelo - I don't trust these Ball boys health wise
Towns - I'm expecting Towns to have the random 3rd place MVP year however I think it's more like one of the next two years.
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Re: 2025/26 NBA top10 

Post#31 » by Colbinii » Tue Feb 7, 2023 3:09 am

Colbinii wrote:1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. Nikola Jokic
3. Luka Doncic
4. Zion Williamson
5. Karl-Anthony Towns
6. Bam Adebayo
7. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
8. Jayson Tatum
9. Trae Young
10. R.J. Barrett


Top 3 are still looking good.

Zion, SGA and Tatum look like Top 10 locks.

Towns was a bit homer-ish, Trae still has a shot and R.J was a whiff.
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Post#32 » by Colbinii » Tue Feb 7, 2023 4:12 am

Dr Positivity wrote:Embiid not on anyone's list? Are people expecting him to go down like Yao and Walton?


Because in 2021 Embiid still peaked at 64 games in a season.
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Post#33 » by rk2023 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 5:43 am

My predictions, maybe we'll all see how these age in 3 years' time if this thread is still up:

1. Jokic - Perhaps he isn't *as* game breaking as he is right now, but consistency might be his legal middle name.

2. Doncic - Time will tell how this Kyrie deal works out, maybe it helps him do "more with less" as an offensive engine and gives him off-ball aspects to improve upon.

3. Antetokounmpo - How his offensive game ages as he loses burst and puts more mileage on his legs will be something to look for. He has potential as an off-ball big too, I'd like to see Milwaukee tap into it more.

4. Tatum - Somewhat underrated as an offensive primary, with improvements still being made / to be made as a decision maker in the half-court (particularly with playing stronger. Starting to become a steady all-defensive player, underrated that he isn't even 25 yet.

5. Gilgeous-Alexander - The one player whose stock i'm the highest on within this pool. I think he continues to progress as an offensive primary while adding more scoring counters to his game, taking steps as a playmaker too. His defense is probably marginal at the current moment, but the tools are there (particularly length)

6. Williamson - This might be more a promise/ceiling pick, as durability and health are by far the biggest concerns of Zion and his development. When he's on the court, his ability to finish at the basket (the catalyst of his scoring) is already all-time levels. It seems like his defense has improved somewhat this year too.

7. Morant - He's having somewhat of a down year and has been nursing some less serious injuries iirc. I think he's likely a better finisher, better scoring right at the basket, and as a playmaker (though Shai is better all-around). They're similar from an aesthetic standpoint, with Ja having more lift and glide. Defensively, he may be worse but has some tools off of his athleticism - including rim protection. Getting him to buy-in is something to look for.

8. Mitchell - As he's older than most of the players here who likely haven't peaked, i'm not quite sure how much higher he'll get in absolute terms as a player - but his scoring (and overall offensive impact) have been the best of his career while I see him as a marginally positive defender.

9. Booker - Another player whose consistency I like, I think Booker is remarkable from a touch economy standpoint and is very active moving-the-ball. A very quick decision shot-maker who can get to his spots whether on the ball or not. Rim pressure is something I would like to see more. There isn't much that gives him a great physical defensive advantage, but he puts in the effort and is cerebral on that end to the point where he's another slight positive. Like Mitchell, I see the age concerns here.

10. Young - I'm not the highest on his ceiling already, as I don't see how he can make a major leap on offensive at this point (he's much more on ball than the two most effective point-guards of his stature in Chris Paul and Steve Nash, and a scorer that too). A volume scorer to elaborate, his efficiency in the RS lately and in the playoffs against Miami have me skeptical of how he fares against switch-heavy and lengthy schemes. I think he's a great playmaker for what it's worth, but could be a better decision maker. I don't think there's much to hit home on defense; if he gets to even close to a neutral value, I think his ceiling goes up in this pool.

I didn't include 2020 onwards draftees or Curry/Durant/Leonard/Davis/Lillard just for simplicity, they could have a chance at being here.

EDIT: Completely whiffed and forgot Embiid, I would slot him between Giannis and Tatum. Consistency in motor, decision-making (already improving in terms of scoring blindness), and not being injured / playing such a high-risk and dangerous game on his body all are red flags I have. I think his natural talent and acumen as a scorer is amazing, that said - although that holding up in the PS due to health has been a scarcity.
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Re: 2025/26 NBA top10 

Post#34 » by Peregrine01 » Tue Feb 7, 2023 6:05 am

Colbinii wrote:1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. Nikola Jokic
3. Luka Doncic
4. Zion Williamson
5. Karl-Anthony Towns
6. Bam Adebayo
7. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
8. Jayson Tatum
9. Trae Young
10. R.J. Barrett


I honestly don't see Giannis's game aging well. I think he'll still be a top 5 player but I think he's gonna be more injury prone when he's in his 30s. You're kinda already seeing him miss more games lately.

With health considered and of the guys currently playing,

1. Jokic
2. Luka
3. Giannis
3. Tatum
4. Shai
5. Embiid
7. Bam
8. Zion
9. Trae
10. Halliburton
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Post#35 » by ardee » Tue Feb 7, 2023 7:47 am

Jokic could honestly be no. 1 for the rest of the decade.

I see no reason his game won't age as well as at least Curry's or Durant's has, maybe even LeBron's.
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Post#36 » by ShaqAttac » Wed Feb 8, 2023 1:49 am

i think 7x mvp jokic still gonna be #1 tbbh

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