Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks

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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#41 » by tbhawksfan1 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:49 am

A rare thread where the OP is terrible but many of the responces are solid gold :lol:
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Post#42 » by rand » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:00 am

asero wrote:He tells me this is against the value of rewarding good performance and punishing bad performance. I told him it for the parity of the league but he argued that there is no such thing as parity in the classroom. Those students that gets a E grade should not be receiving extra bonus merits just to pass the semester.

The draft isn't designed to be a reward for performance, and there's no reason why it should be. Ratings, attendance, and success itself are the rewards for good performance for NBA franchises. The draft is about distributing talent in a manner which promotes healthy future competition; giving the best franchises the top young talent doesn't do that.

Assuming for the moment your "kid" here isn't just a prop to make this thread, I'm very impressed with the sophistication of his 7 year old mind but at the same time worried that he's already internalizing the morality of the right-wing regarding performance and distribution. It's an effective mindset to produce a ruthless shark but a very poor one for producing decent human beings who want to promote the common good.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#43 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:07 am

because giving all the top prospects to the winning teams every year ensures that the teams on the bottom have no recourse to get better?

it's a flawed system but much better than the alternative, sry.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#44 » by ITYSL » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:44 am

Tell your imaginary kid that his analogy sucks and to shut up and eat his vegetables.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#45 » by muzzhawk » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:46 am

In simplest terms taking the revenue aspect aside, the NBA is a competition and the draft is a vehicle to preserve a level of fairness. Without fairness the competition loses its integrity.

Even in free markets, competition is regulated to avoid monopolisation, for the betterment of the market itself.


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Post#46 » by Neutral 123 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am

All this reveals is that any system will have tea offs, and those looking for utopia are out of touch with reality. It's so strange that people here complain about rewarding bad performance here, but think it's an awesome idea for the greater world lol.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#47 » by Neutral 123 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:49 am

clyde21 wrote:because giving all the top prospects to the winning teams every year ensures that the teams on the bottom have no recourse to get better?

it's a flawed system but much better than the alternative, sry.

The arguable alternative would be to eliminate the draft and allow players and teams to negotiate their own deals.

So that way the league doesn't have to reward anyone for anything.
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Post#48 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:51 am

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clyde21 wrote:because giving all the top prospects to the winning teams every year ensures that the teams on the bottom have no recourse to get better?

it's a flawed system but much better than the alternative, sry.

The arguable alternative would be to eliminate the draft and allow players and teams to negotiate their own deals.

So that way the league doesn't have to reward anyone for anything.

Then the Knicks just become good because they have more money than everyone else.

That doesn't really sound that much more competitive from an athletic point of view.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#49 » by Balllin » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:07 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:Then the Knicks just become good because they have more money than everyone else.

That doesn't really sound that much more competitive from an athletic point of view.


with a salary cap in place, that would not necessarily be the case.

if you were rookie zion would you sign for new york or LA for the minimum or for cleveland throwing a 5 year max deal at you before you even played a game?

what i am trying to say is that contending teams usually do not have the cap space to sign big time players. also contending teams probably will probably not feature a rookie as their no.1 guy, but more likely as their 3rd or 4th option.

for a young rookie, how is that beneficial financially or with regards to player development?
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Post#50 » by Winsome Gerbil » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:11 pm

For the same reason the kids in his/her class struggling with their math are the ones who get the extra help from the teacher's aide.

If its not a difficult concept for a 7yr old to understand, adults should be able to handle it too.
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Post#51 » by GeorgeGervin » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:11 pm

Well a good draft pick is not a reward, the championship is the reward.
The draft picks are just a way to help teams that are struggling, just like when your kids struggle with maths you offer them extra maths lessons, but this is not a reward, a reward would be a bike or a new TV in that example.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#52 » by Mickey8 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:13 pm

Let the kid enjoy childhood and don't have him or her thinking about some trivial things such as NBA Draft, the sport is the entertainment an not something kids should take so seriously.
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Post#53 » by LewisnotMiller » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:19 pm

asero wrote:He tells me this is against the value of rewarding good performance and punishing bad performance. I told him it for the parity of the league but he argued that there is no such thing as parity in the classroom. Those students that gets a E grade should not be receiving extra bonus merits just to pass the semester.


Your seven year old thinks the kids with the best reading ability should get extra assistance?

Primary school doesn't work that way. If anything, kids are given unrealistically high expectations about how 'fair' the world should be at seven.
This story sounds dubious as stated.
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Post#54 » by dk1115 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:45 pm

If I beat you in checkers every single game, would you want to play checkers with me?
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Post#55 » by Bergmaniac » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:55 pm

The NBA is a cartel which seeks to maximise the profits in the long run. Giving the worst teams the best chance to improve help maintain some level of parity and competitiveness which is good for the bottom line. It has nothing to do with fairness and ethics, it's all about the money.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#56 » by prophet_of_rage » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:15 pm

Biff wrote:Because the NBA understand something the rest of America doesn't: helping people succeed is good for the long-term success of any human endeavor. If the NBA ran their league like many in these country think, they'd give #1 picks to the Champions and tell the last place team to start pulling on those bootstraps.
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asero wrote:He tells me this is against the value of rewarding good performance and punishing bad performance. I told him it for the parity of the league but he argued that there is no such thing as parity in the classroom. Those students that gets a E grade should not be receiving extra bonus merits just to pass the semester.


“Your seven year old” isn’t busness partners with the other kids. Pretty **** simple really.

Y’all should be teaching your kids better lessons.
Pretty simple.

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Post#57 » by HotelVitale » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:51 pm

Neutral 123 wrote:All this reveals is that any system will have tea offs, and those looking for utopia are out of touch with reality. It's so strange that people here complain about rewarding bad performance here, but think it's an awesome idea for the greater world lol.


Dunno, man, I think what's so strange is an adult human thinking there's one set of rules to apply to every situation everywhere. Always seems to me like that's the childishness of American culture: the attitude and values that help me get through a rough patch at work are the same attitude+values that must apply to me as I parent a grumpy 5 year-old at the mall, and that a NCAA coach must apply to coaching a kid who's failing geography, that members of Congress must use to evaluate EVERY issue, etc.

Not sure why people think that instead of using judgement for everything: look over all the facts and the contexts and figure out what makes the most sense for each situation.
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#58 » by Leslie Forman » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:54 pm

I think your kid should become a Euroleague fan
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#59 » by bballfan1three3 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:59 pm

Of course, 7 year olds have a strong grasp of parity. I remember my first E grade in school, when I failed to properly quantized the circumlocutions of clouds in astronomy in 1st grade. Memories!
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Re: Help me explain to my 7 year old Kid why NBA rewards Losing with Draft Picks 

Post#60 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:00 pm

For the same reason thier is progressive income tax....it is most economically profitable for success through out...
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