og15 wrote:RingColluder wrote:
Well if they on the forum a lot they should be aware enough to realize I'm constantly commenting regardless win or lose. I can't speak fo the other poster, but that's disingenuous.
There is no concern, I was just simply stating that it's really surprising to think he will miraculously turn it around when he's done the exact opposite in playoff scenarios his entire career particularly recently injured or not.
And based on your last comment, I have zero confidence in our ability to trade an injury prone max contract guy like PG for anything other than a salary dump. It's not necessarily Blake Griffin levels, but do you really see teams like the Knicks or others trading for him for anything even close to similar value? We would not be getting a Beal player back (we already saw how he and Westbrook did) nor any strong level of first round picks from players, it just makes no sense to think it will be easy to get rid of IF he does not perform on the team.
That paragraph on your "playoff run" is your opinion, just because you're a mod and say it doesn't make it fact. I won't go further into it, but this was a big game whether you want to admit or not. Just bc we're not playing the Lakers or Suns doesn't matter, this was a game we NEEDED to win against a team we should logically be able to beat fairly easily. Instead, he totally flopped. 2 days off? No excuses.
And I agree, if PG has 1 bad game out of 10 that's fantastic. The problem with him is that as we saw last year, more likely is he has 2 nice games, and 4-5 BAD games below average verging on awful. And where are you getting this 64% success rate in the playoffs with PG in OKC? LMAO. Early first round exits EVERY SINGLE SEASOn he was there. Are you putting all of the blame on Westbrook then? The role players? The coaching? At some point He is the problem not everyone else.
I understand we are all Clippers fans... that doesn't mean any criticism against PG is met with a thousand knives and derision as "Not being a real Clippers fan". That's poppycock.
And again.. I'm not sure where you're getting these %'s from at all...
I don’t know what you mean by my post about playoff run. I’m saying that PG is going to be playing in the playoffs, there’s nothing we can do to change that, he couldn’t be traded this season, and it’s past the trade deadline even if he could have been traded, which he couldn’t. We’re stuck with him, so this isn’t like Lou Williams where one could complain for a change to be made (not that we have influence, but for the fun). Paul George is going to be on the Clippers for their playoff run, however long that is. I don’t really understand how that is my opinion, it is a simple fact.
Who said the game wasn’t important? It is MartintoVaught, and you seem to be inconsistent about whether you are saying so or not, who are saying it was MORE important. Was this game more important than vs Houston, Memphis, Portland or Minnesota? If yes, please explain exactly why. If no, then Paul George played well in 4/5 important recent games, he was trash in one. Okay, that sucked, but unless one was expecting 100% consistency from him, extrapolating that into something larger makes little sense. Yes, we know he had a bad playoff last season, that has NOTHING to do with him having 1 bad game in his last who knows how many.
Again, last season was on OUTLIER for Paul George. Paul George is not a tier 1 star when it comes to consistency, but Paul George doesn’t regularly play poorly in 4-5 out of 6-7 games, please show that data that isn’t last season, it isn’t there.
Where did I say “success rate”, I said CONSISTENCY, and I’m mainly focusing on scoring and efficiency as those are the main areas outside of rebounding that he was being expected to produce in. Consistency doesn’t mean wins, consistency means performing around or above average production. So we’re looking at for example, scoring within PPG average, and having a TS% within his average. There are too many factors to winning and losing a game to say that consistency of a single player is based on teams wins/loses in a series, that makes no sense

Paul George OKC: 11 games
22+ points, 9/11 games (82% of games)
26+ points, 7/11 games (64% of games)
TS% ~56% or higher 7/11 games (64% of games)
TS% - 58% of higher 6/11 games (55% of games)
Individual Ortg 109+ 6/11 games (55% of games)
I’m not basing this on how I “felt” about his performance. His first season with OKC, he averaged 21.9 ppg / 57% TS. They played the top defense in Utah, so one can expect some drop in efficiency against them. Did he have some issues, yes, but 6 games, 20+ pts in 4/6 games, 56% TS or higher in 4/6 games. His main issue was game 6, and of course that’s going to be magnified because it was the closing game, acceptably so. The next season he averaged 28 ppg / 58.3 TS% in the regular season. In the 5 games vs Portland, he had 26+ points in 4/5 games, 57% TS or higher in 3/5 games. He had 36 points in game 5, they were +6 when he was on the court. This time the criticism wasn’t about his performance, but about his team losing.
Yes, his consistency in scoring, efficiency and rebounding (which I didn’t show, but you can check) was in the mid-60% range with OKC in the playoffs. Playmaking was not a task of his on that team since Westbrook was there. Compare this to last season on the Clippers. If you look at his WHOLE playoff career since he became a star, he had the majority of his low scoring games and low efficiency games last playoffs, it was a large outlier even for a guy like him with tier 2 star consistency.