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thebuzzardman · Post #1621 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:36 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
DaGawd wrote:I feel bad for Prognosis at this point

Prognosis

Kneecaps Prognosis

spree2kawhi · Post #1622 » by **spree2kawhi** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:42 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:nice to see lonzo ball out. im predicting that lonzo or schroder will be a knick. i can see arguments for both sides

Lonzo allows us to start Quickely IMO.

IQ not being a PG doesn't hurt if he's paired up with someone Lonzo's size that will be the ball mover in the lineup.

I wouldn't want to have the worst backcourt in the league really.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1623 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:26 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:nice to see lonzo ball out. im predicting that lonzo or schroder will be a knick. i can see arguments for both sides

Lonzo allows us to start Quickely IMO.

IQ not being a PG doesn't hurt if he's paired up with someone Lonzo's size that will be the ball mover in the lineup.

I wouldn't want to have the worst backcourt in the league really.

That's odd considering you want DeRozan.

spree2kawhi · Post #1624 » by **spree2kawhi** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:37 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Lonzo allows us to start Quickely IMO.

IQ not being a PG doesn't hurt if he's paired up with someone Lonzo's size that will be the ball mover in the lineup.

I wouldn't want to have the worst backcourt in the league really.

That's odd considering you want DeRozan.

It's not.

Dave DaButcher · Post #1625 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:37 pm

Read on Twitter

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thebuzzardman · Post #1626 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Dave DaButcher · Post #1627 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:42 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Haha yes, odd timing for this report with the TWolves on a modest winning streak. But yes, bring it on!

thebuzzardman · Post #1628 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:45 pm

Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

DaGawd · Post #1629 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:57 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

I am somewhat curious to see what kind of effect being around Kenny Payne again would have on KAT.. in addition to him being a little bit older and wiser a second stint with Thibs

RHODEY · Post #1630 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:07 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

He struggled to do t in Minny with Thibs and Jimmy Butler up his azz. So logically speaking...No.

DaGawd · Post #1631 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:10 pm

RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

He struggled to do t in Minny with Thibs and Jimmy Butler up his azz. So logically speaking...No.

I mean Randle learned later on.. KAT recently said something a long the lines of he’s done with the stat chasing phase of his career and wanting to win is more of a priority now. He’s about the same age as Randle and about to enter his prime years. I could see him being more open to Thibs type coaching at this stage of his career

Im Coming Home · Post #1632 » by **Im Coming Home** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:19 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

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Carving up the Bucks. Seems we may need to game plan for this dude Sunday.

man... I been said we should've traded for him when he had that issue with the Cavs..

:banghead:

3toheadmelo · Post #1633 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:33 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Carving up the Bucks. Seems we may need to game plan for this dude Sunday.

man... I been said we should've traded for him when he had that issue with the Cavs..

Rockets got him basically for free. im not sure the Knicks wanted to take a gamble on him since he has a lot of problems off the court and seems to be a bad locker room guy. oh well

TheGreenArrow · Post #1634 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:50 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

Absolutely!!!

Imo Randle was a worst defender last year than what Kat is now and look a Julius under kp and jb now!!!!

Just imagine what Kenny Payne and johnnie Bryant can do with Kat!!!!

That Kat & Randle duo would be the best in the league and it wouldn’t even be close.

The amount of playmaking and shooting at the 4&5 would unprecedented and unmatched in nba history!!!!

We’d instantly be the title favorites!!!

Lonzo/Rose
IQ/Burks
Rj/bullock
Randle/?
Towns/taj

:droop:

Post #1635 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:07 pm

DaGawd wrote:I feel bad for Prognosis at this point

It's been a long ride trying to find the right nickname but the journey is at an end.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1636 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:22 pm

So ummmmm.... That Chris Haynes piece and the timing behind it is very interesting when it comes to Mr. Lillard....

Oscirus · Post #1637 » by **Oscirus** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:23 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

Absolutely!!!

Imo Randle was a worst defender last year than what Kat is now and look a Julius under kp and jb now!!!!

Just imagine what Kenny Payne and johnnie Bryant can do with Kat!!!!

That Kat & Randle duo would be the best in the league and it wouldn’t even be close.

The amount of playmaking and shooting at the 4&5 would unprecedented and unmatched in nba history!!!!

We’d instantly be the title favorites!!!

Lonzo/Rose
IQ/Burks
Rj/bullock
Randle/?
Towns/taj

Thibs couldnt even motivate Towns when minnesota was Towns team, now imagine trying to motivate him as the 2/3 option on this one.

DaGawd · Post #1638 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:30 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:So ummmmm.... That Chris Haynes piece and the timing behind it is very interesting when it comes to Mr. Lillard....

Dame trade request incoming

TheGreenArrow · Post #1639 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:33 pm

Oscirus wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ok. So KAT is a really, really good offensive player. Let's pretend he can be a Knick and the cost isn't RJ, Randle or IQ, but lots of picks. (Yes, highly theoretical)

Can he truly be taught to give a f*ck about defense?
Would he even want to be coached by Thibs again?

Can a team that revolves around Rose/IQ/RJ/Bullocks/KAT/Noel for a few seasons be truly competitive, playoff wise?

Yes, I obviously have Mitch going out in the trade.

Absolutely!!!

Imo Randle was a worst defender last year than what Kat is now and look a Julius under kp and jb now!!!!

Just imagine what Kenny Payne and johnnie Bryant can do with Kat!!!!

That Kat & Randle duo would be the best in the league and it wouldn’t even be close.

The amount of playmaking and shooting at the 4&5 would unprecedented and unmatched in nba history!!!!

We’d instantly be the title favorites!!!

Lonzo/Rose
IQ/Burks
Rj/bullock
Randle/?
Towns/taj

Thibs couldnt even motivate Towns when minnesota was Towns team, now imagine trying to motivate him as the 2/3 option on this one.

Read on Twitter

He’ll make it work!!!!!

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1640 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:04 pm

I just don't see the long term vision of pairing Randle and Towns together unless Thibs knows he can get KAT to protect the rim. Randle basically gives you 90% of KAT's offense with better playmaking and more utility on defense. And I don't think it would be a good look on the FO's part to trade Randle after what he did this year.

The Knicks need guard shot makers and creators. Rose and Quickley are a start but we don't have that elite option yet who can close out a game for us against the best defenses. That's why even with all their flaws I still think Lavine and Beal are ultimately the best realistic options for this group. We have the coach and the personnel to cover for them defensively and they have elite shot making ability.

If the FO can be patient and wait either until next trade deadline (when their prices come down) or 2022 FA then this team could be loaded.