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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#221 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:04 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:My two cent arm chair psyche eval…he’s not retiring. Hard to comprehend because we don’t have his ego, but for him to have to sit out of the spot light for 2 years AND pay that amount of money is intolerable to his psyche. He’s having a temper tantrum.

1) Says he disgruntled asks for a trade. Packers say they are keeping him.
2) He says he’ll sit out. Packers say they are keeping him.
3) He threatens to retire. Packers say they are keeping him.

He’s playing one of his last cards now because the draft is his best chance of being traded.

I don’t really have a side because no one is blameless but Aaron is making it difficult to root for him right now.
He still has the not showing up for training camp card. Max fine is $50k a day, that's a lot but even if he takes it to the extreme and skips all of camp that's about 40 days so $2mil total. He could then show up the Monday before week 1 and he's then getting his base salary and not required to pay back his signing bonus. The stunt would cost him about 2 game checks, a price he might be willing to pay to make a point. And that would be a messy ass situation for the Packers and make camp a **** zoo.

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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#222 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:17 pm

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That's the breaks. Gutey bet against Rodgers ... and lost ... at least in 2020.



Agreed. But doesn't mean it was necessarily the wrong bet, at least in my opinion.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#223 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:22 pm

Kevin Clark brought up another team that he thinks would move a mountain to get a franchise QB, and that's Carolina. They're really in the same spot as Denver. Have a young, bad QB, took a high CB, have their future picks. If there is a Favre trade out there at least there could be two teams involved.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#224 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:54 pm

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tski1972 wrote:Rodgers has been able to see what, if any, potential Love may have as well. If Rodgers gets the sense Love won’t be a quality NFL qb it’s probably pissing him off even more knowing what that pick could have been.


Or he sees Love's talent and realizes GB is probably going to look to move on at the first sign it's advantageous to the organization.


Or just the very idea of them drafting a QB - regardless of whether Love looks good - was enough to send him over the edge. He discussed needing to drink after they made that selection.

But your scenario is second in my mind. Tski's scenario is a very distant third.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#225 » by tski1972 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:59 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
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tski1972 wrote:Rodgers has been able to see what, if any, potential Love may have as well. If Rodgers gets the sense Love won’t be a quality NFL qb it’s probably pissing him off even more knowing what that pick could have been.


Or he sees Love's talent and realizes GB is probably going to look to move on at the first sign it's advantageous to the organization.


Or just the very idea of them drafting a QB - regardless of whether Love looks good - was enough to send him over the edge. He discussed needing to drink after they made that selection.

But your scenario is second in my mind. Tski's scenario is a very distant third.


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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#226 » by XtremeDunkz » Sat May 1, 2021 12:13 am

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XtremeDunkz wrote:Trade him to Denver. Get Surtain, tonight's 2nd and next year's 1st. All of you saying go retire are just being dumb. You can get a legit haul for him. Do it.

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It's not. Why the hell would we want another rookie corner, are we trading Jaire too?

Us drafting a corner after Denver drafting a corner is an interesting coincidence.
There's 3 and 4 corners on the field every play. Why WOULDN'T you want another blue chip corner?

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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#227 » by M-C-G » Sat May 1, 2021 12:13 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Kevin Clark brought up another team that he thinks would move a mountain to get a franchise QB, and that's Carolina. They're really in the same spot as Denver. Have a young, bad QB, took a high CB, have their future picks. If there is a Favre trade out there at least there could be two teams involved.


I suspect if he doesn't get traded to a destination he wants, he will play the retire card, which will ward off unwanted destinations while simultaneously destroying his trade value. Getting something in place yesterday that can be executed June 1 was the right move and looks like we missed it
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#228 » by skones » Sat May 1, 2021 12:29 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:There's 3 and 4 corners on the field every play. Why WOULDN'T you want another blue chip corner?

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I mean, there aren't.....
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#229 » by stillgotgame » Sat May 1, 2021 12:33 am

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stillgotgame wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:That's not a legit haul

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It's not. Why the hell would we want another rookie corner, are we trading Jaire too?

Us drafting a corner after Denver drafting a corner is an interesting coincidence.
There's 3 and 4 corners on the field every play. Why WOULDN'T you want another blue chip corner?

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I'd be more inclined to get my green horn QB some weapons and offensive line help. Transition is going to be brutal this early in Love's career.
Speaking of our QB, do we have another QB on the roster? We might want to look for 1 of those too.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#230 » by JayMKE » Sat May 1, 2021 1:08 am

Drafting Love is unforgivable, this was so obviously gonna happen. Makes me sick and not even for a good prospect despite the massive levels of cope some people are doing. Call any bluff just as with Giannis, you don’t trade the MVP if you wanna keep your job.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#231 » by M-C-G » Sat May 1, 2021 3:21 am

JayMKE wrote:Drafting Love is unforgivable, this was so obviously gonna happen. Makes me sick and not even for a good prospect despite the massive levels of cope some people are doing. Call any bluff just as with Giannis, you don’t trade the MVP if you wanna keep your job.

Only unforgivable if you ignored the obvious decline for two years of a 36 year old qb. Just need to put your thumb over TD:INT and a succession plan becomes an obvious need


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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#232 » by stillgotgame » Sat May 1, 2021 4:35 am

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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#233 » by JayMKE » Sat May 1, 2021 5:14 am

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JayMKE wrote:Drafting Love is unforgivable, this was so obviously gonna happen. Makes me sick and not even for a good prospect despite the massive levels of cope some people are doing. Call any bluff just as with Giannis, you don’t trade the MVP if you wanna keep your job.

Only unforgivable if you ignored the obvious decline for two years of a 36 year old qb. Just need to put your thumb over TD:INT and a succession plan becomes an obvious need


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Is it? I think you cross that bridge when it comes, developing a guy like we did with Rodgers behind Favre for years isn't ideal and cargo cultish to try to repeat. Before this latest thing I was assuming it was becoming likely that Love will never even play in a Packer uniform after playing out his entire rookie contract, I just don't see anyway it's not a disasterous pick short of Love being an MVP HoFer and what is the likelihood of that? Why did we need a QB in the 1st, why not later on if it was just to have a guy to develop?
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#234 » by RRyder823 » Sat May 1, 2021 6:48 am

JayMKE wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Drafting Love is unforgivable, this was so obviously gonna happen. Makes me sick and not even for a good prospect despite the massive levels of cope some people are doing. Call any bluff just as with Giannis, you don’t trade the MVP if you wanna keep your job.

Only unforgivable if you ignored the obvious decline for two years of a 36 year old qb. Just need to put your thumb over TD:INT and a succession plan becomes an obvious need


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Is it? I think you cross that bridge when it comes, developing a guy like we did with Rodgers behind Favre for years isn't ideal and cargo cultish to try to repeat. Before this latest thing I was assuming it was becoming likely that Love will never even play in a Packer uniform after playing out his entire rookie contract, I just don't see anyway it's not a disasterous pick short of Love being an MVP HoFer and what is the likelihood of that? Why did we need a QB in the 1st, why not later on if it was just to have a guy to develop?


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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

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2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#236 » by LittleRooster » Sat May 1, 2021 3:15 pm

Apparently Rodgers wants Gute fired to come back. I don’t think I’d do that. Would you guys?

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Post#237 » by LittleRooster » Sat May 1, 2021 3:22 pm

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Post#238 » by MoMM » Sat May 1, 2021 3:32 pm

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That's what happens when you draft a QG that you don't need. Dillon and Deguara were OK, the former was an insurance because Jones and Jamaal could leave and the other fits our scheme, but spending a 1st + 4th for a backup QB is not any good when your SB window is closing.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#239 » by MickeyDavis » Sat May 1, 2021 3:32 pm

I do not fire Gute and I certainly wouldn't elevate MLF. Coaches should have some say in personnel but that's it. From what I understand MLF was completely on board with the Love pick.
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Re: 2021 Packers Off Season - Rodgers Dilemma 

Post#240 » by StickeeFingaz » Sat May 1, 2021 3:43 pm

Just a terrible hat that Rodgers is wearing, that’s the last straw, get rid of him.

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