Knicks sign Luca Vildoza to 4 years $13.6 Mil deal

god shammgod · Post #261 » by **god shammgod** » Thu May 6, 2021 3:40 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
Guano wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Read where the Knicks huge salary gap allowed them to get a jump on all teams before the summer and get Luca.

flexibility is nice - it's why i'm not a fan of paying role players big long contracts (Lonzo, VanFelton, Bertrans, ect)

Sorry, but Lonzo and Fred are not role players. They are dynamic high-usage 2-way players that can eventually become stars.

van vleet is 27 years old. when is he becoming a star ? when he's 30 ?

Richard4444 · Post #262 » by **Richard4444** » Thu May 6, 2021 3:49 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Guano wrote:

flexibility is nice - it's why i'm not a fan of paying role players big long contracts (Lonzo, VanFelton, Bertrans, ect)

Sorry, but Lonzo and Fred are not role players. They are dynamic high-usage 2-way players that can eventually become stars.

van vleet is 27 years old. when is he becoming a star ? when he's 30 ?

Why not? Conley became a star with 33,5 years.

And I said I believe he has a shot. I didn't say it would be very likely.

Rasho Brezec · Post #263 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Thu May 6, 2021 3:49 pm

Fred Van Felton who never made a contested layup in his life can become a star. Okay.

cgf · Post #264 » by **cgf** » Thu May 6, 2021 3:52 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Guano wrote:

flexibility is nice - it's why i'm not a fan of paying role players big long contracts (Lonzo, VanFelton, Bertrans, ect)

Sorry, but Lonzo and Fred are not role players. They are dynamic high-usage 2-way players that can eventually become stars.

van vleet is 27 years old. when is he becoming a star ? when he's 30 ?

And Lonzo is unlikely to ever be a star, even if I think we should pursue him. He can be a star glue-guy/role-player, who has games where he goes off, but at best he's a highend supporting piece who helps the real stars shine brightest...which is a very useful piece to have around.

stuporman · Post #265 » by **stuporman** » Thu May 6, 2021 7:58 pm

As much as I'd love for Luca to rip the jersey off Payton's back and take his place in the starting line up before anyone realizes it's not Elf out there wearing number 6 but we all know how methodical Thibs is and I doubt he changes anything this late in the season like inserting a player who hasn't even practiced one millisecond with the Knicks in the rotation.

makeitstop · Post #266 » by **makeitstop** » Thu May 6, 2021 8:32 pm

It's officially official now.

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Post #267 » by **moocow007** » Thu May 6, 2021 9:03 pm

stuporman wrote:As much as I'd love for Luca to rip the jersey off Payton's back and take his place in the starting line up before anyone realizes it's not Elf out there wearing number 6 but we all know how methodical Thibs is and I doubt he changes anything this late in the season like inserting a player who hasn't even practiced one millisecond with the Knicks in the rotation.

Agreed. But this is more about the next 3 seasons than this season. The Knicks basically signed him now (paying him for this season as well as the next 3) to lock him up and prevent any other team (who don't have the cap space right now to sign him) from signing him in the offseason. There's quite a lot of people saying that Vildoza could be one of the top free agent PG's this offseason (in part on account of the lack of options) and the Knicks basically paid him off for this season to sign early.

Post #268 » by **moocow007** » Thu May 6, 2021 9:05 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Fred Van Felton who never made a contested layup in his life can become a star. Okay.

You just described Elfrid on offense. :lol:

DickGrayson · Post #269 » by **DickGrayson** » Fri May 7, 2021 1:24 pm

6"3 only 25 can shoot defend and pass. He'll have instant chemistry with Randle and Robinson. The sooner Payton gets out the closer we advance to being a top 2 team in the East.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #270 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Fri May 7, 2021 1:57 pm

If he can join the team in a week... he'll be just in time for last two games. Not that I think Thibs will play him much but...if he plays..is he eligible for playoffs?

gavran · Post #271 » by **gavran** » Fri May 7, 2021 2:17 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:Fred Van Felton who never made a contested layup in his life can become a star. Okay.

You just described Elfrid on offense.

Defense too.

matchman · Post #272 » by **matchman** » Fri May 7, 2021 2:20 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:If he can join the team in a week... he'll be just in time for last two games. Not that I think Thibs will play him much but...if he plays..is he eligible for playoffs?

Eligible since he has not played with another NBA team this season.

Nazrmohamed · Post #273 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Fri May 7, 2021 7:01 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Guano wrote:

flexibility is nice - it's why i'm not a fan of paying role players big long contracts (Lonzo, VanFelton, Bertrans, ect)

Sorry, but Lonzo and Fred are not role players. They are dynamic high-usage 2-way players that can eventually become stars.

van vleet is 27 years old. when is he becoming a star ? when he's 30 ?

It's happened before but I don't think it's happening in his case. His star is at its peak right now. This is as good as it gets if I had to predict. Lonzo has the type of game that could get better with age but at the same time he has a role players mentality so I think he'll always feel comfortable in that setting but I might still give him alittle version of the bag cause at his age you could have him for 10 yrs and watch him grow.

In terms of how we play I will say that FVV fits more in terms of being a confident scorer at PG who plays defense. Lonzo is more the better facilitator with defense who defers on offense but I'm at sort of a crossroads with where the nba is going and how they view PGs. I want to love what Ball does, I've always liked PGs who's primary function was getting his targets hot like a pocket QB of sorts. But teams, ours in particular seem to prefer the scoring PG while splitting the passing duties evenly.

Anyway back to Luka, it looks like he can do alittle of both but I don't wanna set my expectations at anything higher than a bench guard until I see what Thibs does with him.

Post #274 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri May 7, 2021 11:36 pm

His first game: 25 minutes. Second 35 minutes.

Third game through rest of playing career under Thibs till he becomes a Nugget: 7 minutes.

HarthorneWingo · Post #275 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri May 7, 2021 11:59 pm

Triple C wrote:Shved reborn

No one can do what Shved does.

HarthorneWingo · Post #276 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat May 8, 2021 12:00 am

matchman wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:If he can join the team in a week... he'll be just in time for last two games. Not that I think Thibs will play him much but...if he plays..is he eligible for playoffs?

Eligible since he has not played with another NBA team this season.

I guess that means that we cut the midget PG, Harper?

SelbyCobra · Post #277 » by **SelbyCobra** » Thu May 20, 2021 4:51 pm

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snadler · Post #278 » by **snadler** » Thu May 20, 2021 5:08 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:

Read on Twitter

This guy could arrive off the plane, in his suit, never participate in a practice and still be a major upgrade from Payton

RHODEY · Post #279 » by **RHODEY** » Sun May 23, 2021 3:45 pm

Watch on YouTube

BKlutch · Post #280 » by **BKlutch** » Sun May 23, 2021 4:41 pm

RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Thibs should require Elf to watch this video 10 times before he plays again.