jbk1234 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I think a lot of it is the offense. I have said on here 1000 times that at the beginning of the year the Cavs actually ran a movement offense with emphasis on passing and cutting. Since that Allen trade that offense no longer exists.
They have been running slow, boring, stand around offense for months now. That needs to chance if we want to get the best out of this team. The current offense only play is high P&R.
The offense changed and team got crappier and now everyone hates everyone. I dont care how many injures you have or what competition your playing your offense should be your offense. Also, this team also reverted back to playing with zero effort on defense--which was a staple of this team the first 2 months.
I think everyone is just burnt out and is mentally checked out waiting for the offseason.
Prior to the West Coast trip, the offense was Drummond and Sexton taking a lot of shots against mediocre teams. It didn't seem very dynamic to me. Prince, who has been a very streaky shooter his entire career, was knocking down threes. That's really the only change I've seen.
But that West Coast trip showed us who this team is. They're too reliant on scoring in the paint. The floor spacing sucks. Our three point shooting has to be bottom five in the NBA.
I'd legitimately considering letting Allen go in a S&T depending on what type of offers he gets because I think Hartenstein might be a better option for the starting unit long term. This is even more so the case if Mobley is on the board when we're picking. Love needs to go to bench. Sexton needs to be traded before his contract becomes an issue. But mostly this team needs a wing who is a pure shooter. I guy like Huerter.
There's a case to be made that Love or Nance should be seeing a lot more minutes at C, but if we ever want to run an effective defense we will need to pay Allen. I like what we've seen from Hartenstein who is like 20 days younger, but I think Allen has a lot more upside on defense that we haven't seen or unleashed yet thanks to his combination of length, timing, and ability to cover ground.
With these young players we always have to look forward to what they might do when their 25/26/27/etc. It's tricky in this day and age to be investing in the Center position, but I think there's a good chance we will get a pay off from investing in both of them.
We've seen this playout with Andy and Tristan who both continued to improve up to a point where they fell off. Andy due to injuries and Tristan due to reality TV. If Allen can avoid those pitfalls, I think his upside is much-much higher and Hartenstein's not too shabby either. IH is at nearly 17/13/5 per 36 at 22years which is way ahead of TT/Andy and not far behind Jokic.
So, yeah, there's a chance we could let Allen walk, sign IH and not regret it *if* when given more minutes he can keep up his level of production; but I'd much rather hold on to the few assets we have at this point.