post game - that sucked

[3toheadmelo]

if Randle had the ball and got triple teamed you know he would’ve hit the open man too. rj folded

There was nobody open. The spacing fell apart. Nothing anyone could have done at that point except throw up a low percentage prayer. I would have rather Randle thrown it up, but we lost the game before RJ got the ball with 5 seconds left

when rj got the ball he should’ve gave it to Randle immediately and then cleared out to let Randle ISO instead of trying to run a pick and roll with Taj. Randle is right there calling for it. rj trying to force a pick and roll with no spacing is a dumb decision to me. and I would still live with a low percentage prayer with Randle over rj all day

[GONYK]

Did anyone else like the show of faith in RJ from Thibs? Putting Frank out there instead would've probably helped our chances of victory given how poorly RJ was shooting last night, but Thibs stuck with his struggling young star and showed his confidence in RJ.

No. That was dumb. Maximize the chance to win.

Let RJ get his confidence next game.

[cgf]

burks & quick being out has exposed how limited we are offensively. maybe rj will grow into a guy who can create for himself one day and maybe not. but you can't plan around it. you need to go get someone. right away.

What's the rush? Are you trying to win a chip next season?

the rush is that after next summer all the cap space is gone

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

[cgf]

Did anyone else like the show of faith in RJ from Thibs? Putting Frank out there instead would've probably helped our chances of victory given how poorly RJ was shooting last night, but Thibs stuck with his struggling young star and showed his confidence in RJ.

No. That was dumb.

fair enough

[god shammgod]

What's the rush? Are you trying to win a chip next season?

the rush is that after next summer all the cap space is gone

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

[whocares1]

Missed the game but damn poor RJ getting roasted in this thread and twitter. Almost forgot he was 20.

[god shammgod]

talent horton tucker is 20 too. he can create for himself. quickley is 21. he can create for himself. i'm sorry but yes, we can talk about his ability to create for himself at age 20 if we're gonna give him the ball in big spots and give him the 2nd most shots on the team.

[Zenzibar]

the rush is that after next summer all the cap space is gone

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

This is how you make decisions on half the roster:

[god shammgod]

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

This is how you make decisions on half the roster:

then you gotta accept that maybe we take a step back. i don't know if the front office is thinking that way.

[cgf]

the rush is that after next summer all the cap space is gone

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

Not saying the FO doesn't have work to do, just that it doesn't all have to get done tomorrow.

Although, given the limited FA targets this summer who make sense for our core, I don't think we should be surprised at all if we see a lot of this year's useful vets (Rose, Bullock, Burks & Noel) coming back on inflated 1-year deals after we make a play for Lonzo / Schröder.

[god shammgod]

Next summer isn't right away though. There's plenty of time before we have to sign Julius & Mitch to new contracts.

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

Not saying the FO doesn't have work to do, just that it doesn't all have to get done tomorrow.

Although, given the limited FA targets this summer who make sense for our core, I don't think we should be surprised at all if we see a lot of this year's useful vets (Rose, Bullock, Burks & Noel) coming back on inflated 1-year deals after we make a play for Lonzo / Schröder.

those guys have played their way out of taking 1 year deals. it's not realistic. all of them can get 2/3 year mle type deals. at worst.

[BugginOut]

Missed the game but damn poor RJ getting roasted in this thread and twitter. Almost forgot he was 20.

People need to relax. Like damn we get it he had a bad game. But everyone is acting like he hasn’t been clutch all season. The first Memphis win he willed us back in it and that game was the spark that started our win streak to get us where we are now. He’s been hitting dagger 3’s all throughout the win streak and even last game made winning plays to close the game.

He didn’t close tonight, but he has been just as, if not more, consistent then Randle, Rose or anyone else in the 4th this season

[prophet_of_rage]

What ?? That’s a turnover if he throws a lob, especially to get that pass off he would likely be jumping of his back foot to see over the defense. Rose and Randle are not wide enough on the wing . The spacing was **** after the play broke down. It is what is , we didn’t execute on the play, move on to the next .

i think he should have gone to the rim. he'd have missed the layup but it would have been a better attempt than what happened. we didn't need a 3

He had no room to get to the rim The spacing was effed. No matter which side he went either Rose or Julius's man would have swiped and drummond would have been there to help. The problem was he panicked and backed up when the play broke down and lost sense of time and space. He either should have quickly gave it to Julius or rose when nothing was there or at the very lest tried a side step 3 from closer in once he realized he was going to have to shoot it.

It's ok he's 20 this is what he has to go through to learn. He's quite literally never been in that scenario in a game that felt like that. That was a playoff game for all intents and purposes.

After having had time to look at it, Rose either went to fast or Bullock didn't cut through fast enough to force KCP to stand on the weak side help. Because when Rose went KCP was still in the middle as a one man zone. Rose pitched it back out to RJ who had his man, Julius standing next to him, Taj's man and then when Rose came back up his man. Nobody was going to get a clean shot.

It wasn't RJ wrecking the play. Yes he butchered the shot but there was no spacing and the execution was botched from the outset.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Thibs needs to be more creative offensively. Our crunch time offense needs to be more than "Julius, make a play"

This is our whole system. Julius, Derrick make a play. Mitch, Nerves block a shot.

It's why he only plays but so many guys.

I wonder what he learned during his sabbatical and watching the Warriors. It certainly wasn't motion offence.

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[Zenzibar]

if Randle had the ball and got triple teamed you know he would’ve hit the open man too. rj folded

There was nobody open. The spacing fell apart. Nothing anyone could have done at that point except throw up a low percentage prayer. I would have rather Randle thrown it up, but we lost the game before RJ got the ball with 5 seconds left

This.

Should have never gone to OT. Randle had AD on skates and threw up a brick floater, when he had time to lay it in.
Randle had a travel and 24 sec violation. The Lakers were excellent in double-teaming Randle, that team is #1 defensively and it showed.

If RJ would have given Randle the ball in OT, they would just have doubled him. It is what it is.

But you're right, it didn't just come down to a 20 year old kid. Jeez some fans here are just ridiculous.

[whocares1]

Missed the game but damn poor RJ getting roasted in this thread and twitter. Almost forgot he was 20.

People need to relax. Like damn we get it he had a bad game. But everyone is acting like he hasn’t been clutch all season. The first Memphis win he willed us back in it and that game was the spark that started our win streak to get us where we are now. He’s been hitting dagger 3’s all throughout the win streak and even last game made winning plays to close the game.

He didn’t close tonight, but he has been just as, if not more, consistent then Randle, Rose or anyone else in the 4th this season

I think fans just get passionate and when they get disappointed, no one is above criticism. My issue is that it goes beyond criticism and makes a bunch of fans look like they have anger issues that may require therapy lol.

[cgf]

you also have to make decisions on half the roster this summer

Not saying the FO doesn't have work to do, just that it doesn't all have to get done tomorrow.

Although, given the limited FA targets this summer who make sense for our core, I don't think we should be surprised at all if we see a lot of this year's useful vets (Rose, Bullock, Burks & Noel) coming back on inflated 1-year deals after we make a play for Lonzo / Schröder.

those guys have played their way out of taking 1 year deals. it's not realistic.

A) thus the "inflated" part of "inflated 1-year deals"
B) we'll see what ends up actually being realistic, as I'm pretty sure Derrick Rose will prioritize staying with Thibs over maximizing his next contract & I wouldn't be surprised if Bullock chose to start for us for another year...especially at an inflated salary...over coming off someone else's bench on a multi-year deal, assuming no one goes crazy and offers him Bertans money. Noel & Burks, I feel are less likely to come back, but if they don't
C) we have to trust the FO to continue being able to identify useful pieces in FA. So if Nerlens & Burks do get multi-year offers, it'll be on the FO to find capable replacements with the money freed up, which isn't asking the world of a competent staff.

[Jeff Van Gully]

if Randle had the ball and got triple teamed you know he would’ve hit the open man too. rj folded

umm... love randle... dubious came out a couple times when it mattered.

not blaming him. he's our star. but i wouldn't have called the pass a given last night.

and both things are true. maple mamba had nothing last night. gonna be hard to win when both he and bully come up flat. i guess the bright side is how close we came despite.

there was a game not too long ago where Randle was playing horrible and he made some huge plays hitting RJ for clutch 3’s. think it was against Memphis. i trust randle in the clutch to make good decisions, despite how good or bad he is playing. should’ve just gave him the ball period

i agree overall. that's what's made him great and a winner. the decision making is greatly improved.

[robillionaire]

talent horton tucker is 20 too. he can create for himself. quickley is 21. he can create for himself. i'm sorry but yes, we can talk about his ability to create for himself at age 20 if we're gonna give him the ball in big spots and give him the 2nd most shots on the team.

RJ cannot shoot from the top of the key. RJ cannot shoot off the dribble. We can post his fugazi 3pt% all we want but if it's not wide open and in the corner or corner-wing AND on a catch and shoot, he isn't going to make it. He is still extremely limited in the kind of shots he is capable of making. Giving him the ball at the top of the key like we did and expecting him to do something is suicide.

[Zenzibar]

Thibs needs to be more creative offensively. Our crunch time offense needs to be more than "Julius, make a play"

This is our whole system. Julius, Derrick make a play. Mitch, Nerves block a shot.

It's why he only plays but so many guys.

I wonder what he learned during his sabbatical and watching the Warriors. It certainly wasn't motion offence.

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It's standard 101 Pro-ball. You put the ball in the hands of your best player and let him make a play. How many buzzer beaters did Kobe hit? A bunch. But how many did he miss? A bunch.