Eliminated: IND is out, knee-jerk trades & solutions

[Prospect Dong]

I'm a fan of the idea another thread had...

Charlotte gets Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and 17th Overall Draft Pick

Golden State Warriors get Domantas Sabonis and Gordon Hayward

Indiana Pacers get 6th Overall Pick and 2022 Golden State Warriors First Round Draft Pick





Pacers save tons of money and add 2 first round draft picks (one is a second lotto pick).

Hornets add their future center (hopefully), a mid-first and take a chance on Wiggins.

Warriors...
C-Sabonis
PF-Draymond
SF-Hayward
SG-Klay
PG-Steph

Even if Hayward/Klay break down, Steph/Draymond/Sabonis is a solid big 3 then whenever you get a healthy Hayward or Klay (or even better Hayward AND Klay) you just coast to wins.

It's technically true that this saves the Pacers money, but only because they're no longer underpaying their all star. I think "saves money" as a motivation needs to be reserved for trades where you send out actual bad salary - but that's just an opinion.

I don't think this is quite enough for the pacers. The sixth is admittedly a nice piece, but the result of this trade is that the 22 1st likely isn't. For me, that pick is enough to get guys a step down from Sabonis - like when the Pacers sent Antonio Davis for Jonathon Bender back in the day. Taking into account his salary, I think Sabonis is worth a top top 5 pick, maybe top 3.

[Village Idiot]

I find it kinda funny that pretty much everyone on pacers team is rated as higher value then all mavs players outside luka while not mak7ng the po in the east. It either means luka is underrated, mavs players are underrated or that pacers players are overrated. In either case, time to do something to shake it up in indiana

What the hell does your beloved Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks have to do with the Pacers? I must have missed something but I don't see anyone mentioning this topic until you brought it up.

Back to topic, if I were the Pacers I would trade Turner or Sabonis for Siakam or OG and get a new coach. Bjoerkgren has squandered his opportunity. Otherwise I feel like they have a pretty good team.

[GoBobs]

Sabonis to Warriors for Wiseman, Wolves pick, Looney

Turner to OKC for Rockets pick, 2 other late firsts from the OKC war chest ( don’t know that Thunder would do this with Turner only under contract 2 more years)

[Topofthekey]

Turner to OKC for Rockets pick, 2 other late firsts from the OKC war chest ( don’t know that Thunder would do this with Turner only under contract 2 more years)

The two Rockets picks are only going to convey in 2024 and 2026, and even then they are 1-4 protected

Zero chance that Pacers would trade Turner for those picks

[jredsaz]

Turner to OKC for Rockets pick, 2 other late firsts from the OKC war chest ( don’t know that Thunder would do this with Turner only under contract 2 more years)

The two Rockets picks are only going to convey in 2024 and 2026, and even then they are 1-4 protected

Zero chance that Pacers would trade Turner for those picks

Who is trading a first for Turner and not having top 4 protection on the pick?

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[vege]

They're deep and very talented, they need to add 1 piece imo and they'll be fine. So, hope for a healthy season and continue building around their star (Sabonis)

Domantas Sabonis / Myles Turner
/ Doug McDermott
TJ Warren / Oshae Brissett
Caris LeVert / Jeremy Lamb
Malcolm Brogdon / TJ McConnell

If they can add a PF that compliment Sabonis, they'll be really good next season. They have their picks and Justin Holiday to add a PF and he doesn't need to play big minutes, Turner and Sabonis can play a lot of minutes together, I just think they need another reliable big/a more natural PF.

[Topofthekey]

Turner to OKC for Rockets pick, 2 other late firsts from the OKC war chest ( don’t know that Thunder would do this with Turner only under contract 2 more years)

The two Rockets picks are only going to convey in 2024 and 2026, and even then they are 1-4 protected

Zero chance that Pacers would trade Turner for those picks

Who is trading a first for Turner and not having top 4 protection on the pick?

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I'm confused

Why are you asking me that question?

Did I, or anyone in this thread, claim that there are teams offering unprotected top 4 picks for Turner?

Did you reply in the wrong thread?

[Wolveswin]

Rockets:
Wood + House
FOR
Wiseman + Looney + #13

Warriors:
Wiseman + Looney + #6
FOR
Turner or Sabonis + Small Filler

Pacers:
Turner or Sabonis + #13
FOR
Wood + House + #6

The third team could be Raptors for Sikam or OG+. I think Turner or Sabonis fit better with Warriors than Wood or Siakam.

Warriors get their center and keep Wiggins out of the deal.

Third team gets Wiseman.

Pacers get a win-now PF to pair with Sabonis or Turner while improving their draft slot.

[basketballwacko2]

Turner to OKC for Rockets pick, 2 other late firsts from the OKC war chest ( don’t know that Thunder would do this with Turner only under contract 2 more years)

The two Rockets picks are only going to convey in 2024 and 2026, and even then they are 1-4 protected

Zero chance that Pacers would trade Turner for those picks

Who is trading a first for Turner and not having top 4 protection on the pick?

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The Pacers have never traded players for picks 3-4 years out. This is very unlikely to happen. I don't like the trade with GSW either.

[Wolveswin]

Turner or Sabonis + LeVert or Warren

FOR

Brown + TT

Not sure Pacers and Celtics can play nice, maybe a third team needed as buffer. But Brown would be a very nice addition.

Then use Lamb (expiring) + #13 for Wood. Maybe a future (protected) 1st and/or Bitzde (swap a Rockets vet) is needed for value.

Turner or Sabonis
Wood
Warren
Brown
Brogdon

OR

Turner or Sabonis
Wood
Brown
LeVert
Brogdon

[basketballwacko2]

I'm seeing a lot of trades suggesting the Pacers move up in the draft, we saw the same thing in the 2015 draft all these masterminds saying trade up to get Willie Cauley-Stein. The Pacers didn't and got Turner who has been much better than WCS.

[Godaddycurse]

I find it kinda funny that pretty much everyone on pacers team is rated as higher value then all mavs players outside luka while not mak7ng the po in the east. It either means luka is underrated, mavs players are underrated or that pacers players are overrated. In either case, time to do something to shake it up in indiana

The mavs remind me of lebron cavs team pre heats or post kyrie. I think doncic is just that good

[BK_2020]

Honestly just blow it up. With the group they have, their ceiling is the 8th seed if WAS and CHO take a step back, Raptors don't recover after moving back home, and CHI doesn't improve.
Indiana wasn't particularly hardly hit by injuries and some players being out actually helped them (like Turner).

[HotelVitale]

I'm a fan of the idea another thread had...

Charlotte gets Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman and 17th Overall Draft Pick

Golden State Warriors get Domantas Sabonis and Gordon Hayward

Indiana Pacers get 6th Overall Pick and 2022 Golden State Warriors First Round Draft Pick





Pacers save tons of money and add 2 first round draft picks (one is a second lotto pick).

Hornets add their future center (hopefully), a mid-first and take a chance on Wiggins.

Warriors...
C-Sabonis
PF-Draymond
SF-Hayward
SG-Klay
PG-Steph

Even if Hayward/Klay break down, Steph/Draymond/Sabonis is a solid big 3 then whenever you get a healthy Hayward or Klay (or even better Hayward AND Klay) you just coast to wins.

Way too good for Hornets

Hayward is barely an even trade for Wiggins, but they somehow also get Wiseman and #17 because reasons

Which similar salaried player could Wiseman/Wiggins/17 get in return you think?

One who isn’t likely to miss at least half his games the next 3 seasons while being on a near max contract. He’s one of the most injury plagued players in the league and he’s 31, there’s just not much value there unless you’re very desperate.

[Monky15]

I like Sabonis for Siakim.
Toronto can afford to let Siakim go with Boucher still around.
Pacers trade offence for defensive versatility.

[Boneman2]

Honestly just blow it up. With the group they have, their ceiling is the 8th seed if WAS and CHO take a step back, Raptors don't recover after moving back home, and CHI doesn't improve.
Indiana wasn't particularly hardly hit by injuries and some players being out actually helped them (like Turner).

Indiana was top 4 in the East before Turner got hurt, thats without Oladipo and Warren. Yet you think Indiana was better without Myles Turner. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

[BK_2020]

Honestly just blow it up. With the group they have, their ceiling is the 8th seed if WAS and CHO take a step back, Raptors don't recover after moving back home, and CHI doesn't improve.
Indiana wasn't particularly hardly hit by injuries and some players being out actually helped them (like Turner).

Indiana was top 4 in the East before Turner got hurt, thats without Oladipo and Warren. Yet you think Indiana was better without Myles Turner. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

Indiana's record in 2020-21 with Turner is 22-25....

[Wizop]

I wonder what Lamb and 13 gets you?

the 18?

[BlazersBroncos]

Find a way to get Holmes to compliment Sabonis and move Turner for a pick to swing for a guy that ideally can raise the ceiling.

Turner to NO for #8, Hayes?
Then move Hayes + Holiday in a S&T w/ SAC for Holmes.
Let TJ and McBuckets walk (Contenders will overpay IMO)
Sign one of the many Vet Min caliber backup PG's (Neto?)

G - Malcolm Brogdon / Raul Neto / Edmond Sumner
G - Caris LeVert / Jeremy Lamb / Edmond Sumner
F - TJ Warren / Oshae Brissett / Josh Giddey (13)
F - Richaun Holmes / Jalen Johnson (8)
C - Domantas Sabonis / Goga Bitadze

[Scoot McGroot]

I think Indy need to focus on being a top 5 defense and trade the good players they have that don't fit that.

The success Indy has had over the years has been from being a top defense.

Keep Turner, Sabonis, Goga, McConnell, Oshae

Trade Brogdon, Warren, LeVert, Sumner, Lamb

I think keeping a major piece to being a bad defense in Sabonis and giving up a great guard defender in Sumner is probably not a great idea if defense is the focus.


I bet we’ll listen to anything on most anybody, though. If the offers are good enough, they might get accepted. But they’ll have to give us something to make us better now, while making us as good or better long-term, too. Trading long-term signed guys for expiring maybe’s just are infinitely unlikely. Trading for tanking is infinitely unlikely.

But, we must also see if Pritchard/Buchanan return, and even if they want to return. Maybe Pritchard is ready for a fresh start himself, as it’s kind of the final “crossroads” of his career to kind of make a jump, and his kids are all out of the house now.