Our own free agents

aad · Post #1 » by **aad** » Wed May 26, 2021 2:57 pm

Should we bring any of them back beside diallo and F .Jackson
DSJ
Cojo
Ellington
MacGruder

I personally feel we should let these four walk and just bring back frank jackson and diallo and also lee

chrbal · Post #2 » by **chrbal** » Wed May 26, 2021 3:18 pm

Should keep/want to keep; Frank, Saben, and Diallo.

Let walk; McGruder, Joseph and Smith jr

Resign only at minimum; Ellington. Only because we will probably have some veteran shooter on the bench.

vege · Post #3 » by **vege** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:50 pm

I would only brinng Frank Jackson and Saben Lee back, CoJo is not a FA btw, we can waive him and pay only part of his salary.

Drwho17 · Post #4 » by **Drwho17** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:53 pm

Depends on the cost, Frank Jackson/Saben Lee/Diallo should be brought back, maybe Ellington on vets min, he's still a useful player to have on the team. I expect Diallo to be the only tricky one, some team may want overpay him.

bstein14 · Post #5 » by **bstein14** » Wed May 26, 2021 5:15 pm

If we bring back Lee, Diallo, and Frank Jackson there really isn't any room on the roster for Ellington.

If we only bring back two, perhaps there is a spot for Ellington.

Tyler Cook is also fine to bring back, he honestly was better than Sekou. I'm fine either way on him.

We have 17 spots, with two of those being 2 way contracts for 2nd rounders.

chrbal · Post #6 » by **chrbal** » Wed May 26, 2021 6:13 pm

Bey-Grant-Stewart-Hayes-‘21 lottery pick
Josh, Sekou, Plumlee, Okafor, Sirvydis

Assuming you let Joseph and McGruder out of their contracts and use two of the 2nds on two way deals, that’s only 12 spots. That’s how I came up with my answer.

Invictus88 · Post #7 » by **Invictus88** » Wed May 26, 2021 7:05 pm

Don't we have 3 2nd rounders this year? So 4 incoming players?

Dump Joseph, McGruder, Ellington, and DSJ. Sign Frank Jackson, Lee, Diallo, and retain Cook.

We will continue to have 17 spots (15 on roster + 2 2 way players) It remains to be seen how many will be allowed to be active on game days next year.

We should know in < 5 days whether Corey Joseph is a Piston next season. His contract jumps from 2.4 million to 12.6 million if he isn't waived by June 30th.

Post #8 » by **theBigLip** » Wed May 26, 2021 7:08 pm

Just don't spend summer 2022 money

Pharaoh · Post #9 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed May 26, 2021 7:46 pm

Hayes - Lee
Diallo - Frank
Bey - JJ - Sirv
Grant - Sekou - Cook
Stewart - Plumlee - Okafor

Our Lotto pick, #37, #42 & #52

That's 18 dudes...

Even assuming #42 & #52 get the 2 way way treatment we gave Lee we still need to cut one guy.

I vote Okafor

Of course Weaver could always package those 2nds or make trades but as it stands right now I'd bring Diallo back (assuming reasonable price) and upgrade Frank, Lee & Cook.

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Manocad · Post #10 » by **Manocad** » Wed May 26, 2021 8:35 pm

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes - Lee
Diallo - Frank
Bey - JJ - Sirv
Grant - Sekou - Cook
Stewart - Plumlee - Okafor

Our Lotto pick, #37, #42 & #52

That's 18 dudes...

Even assuming #42 & #52 get the 2 way way treatment we gave Lee we still need to cut one guy.

I vote Okafor

Of course Weaver could always package those 2nds or make trades but as it stands right now I'd bring Diallo back (assuming reasonable price) and upgrade Frank, Lee & Cook.

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Better check your math, home slice.

Post #11 » by **Snakebites** » Wed May 26, 2021 10:52 pm

Frank and Saben are the only ones I’m particularly attached to.

Diallo depends on the price. He didn’t impress me.

FloridaMan78 · Post #12 » by **FloridaMan78** » Wed May 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Snakebites wrote:Frank and Saben are the only ones I’m particularly attached to.

Diallo depends on the price. He didn’t impress me.

I’m in the same boat. I’d be ok with Diallo if it was under 8 mil a year and we traded Josh Jackson. Jackson and Diallo on the court at the same time is painful to watch.

Pharaoh · Post #13 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu May 27, 2021 7:09 am

Manocad wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Hayes - Lee
Diallo - Frank
Bey - JJ - Sirv
Grant - Sekou - Cook
Stewart - Plumlee - Okafor

Our Lotto pick, #37, #42 & #52

That's 18 dudes...

Even assuming #42 & #52 get the 2 way way treatment we gave Lee we still need to cut one guy.

I vote Okafor

Of course Weaver could always package those 2nds or make trades but as it stands right now I'd bring Diallo back (assuming reasonable price) and upgrade Frank, Lee & Cook.

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Better check your math, home slice.

Seems 17 so...

Assume our last 2 second round picks get the 2 way treatment.

That's the roster I want heading into next season.

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Pharaoh · Post #14 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu May 27, 2021 7:10 am

FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Frank and Saben are the only ones I’m particularly attached to.

Diallo depends on the price. He didn’t impress me.

I’m in the same boat. I’d be ok with Diallo if it was under 8 mil a year and we traded Josh Jackson. Jackson and Diallo on the court at the same time is painful to watch.

I think you can play them together, as long as you've got Frank or Sirv out there (or our Lotto pick) with them.

Both are best served slashing so need a shooter with them, preferably multiple shooters tbh

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bstein14 · Post #15 » by **bstein14** » Thu May 27, 2021 11:59 am

FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Frank and Saben are the only ones I’m particularly attached to.

Diallo depends on the price. He didn’t impress me.

I’m in the same boat. I’d be ok with Diallo if it was under 8 mil a year and we traded Josh Jackson. Jackson and Diallo on the court at the same time is painful to watch.

Diallo wasn't that good, and he honestly should be behind Frank Jackson in the rotation.

I wouldn't even give Diallo $5 million per year. Diallo had a couple high scoring games, but Frank Jackson was clearly the better and more efficient scorer.

Post #16 » by **dVs33** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:36 pm

Saben and frank are the only ones I really want to keep. I wouldn’t mind diallo on a cheap deal but I’m not overly attached to him.

DBC10 · Post #17 » by **DBC10** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:01 pm

Lee, Jackson, and Diallo. Probably in that order in terms of priority. Everyone is kind of just meh or fillers for a bench without any urgency to sign them

Manocad · Post #18 » by **Manocad** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:04 pm

dVs33 wrote:Saben and frank are the only ones I really want to keep. I wouldn’t mind diallo on a cheap deal but I’m not overly attached to him.

Pretty much the same for me.

As the season progressed JJ stayed pretty much the same player he was and while Diallo showed some flashes he certainly didn't move the needle a lot as one of those guys you kinda want to see stick around, like Saben Lee and Frank Jackson. I wouldn't be broken-hearted if neither of them was around next year, nor would I be upset if both were given another shot next year.

Drwho17 · Post #19 » by **Drwho17** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:37 pm

I don't think we saw the best of Diallo, he was better in OKC and came to Detroit off injury, then he got hurt again, which could mean he's injury prone, but I don't know how much of the real Diallo we saw in Detroit.

Moses ShamMoses · Post #20 » by **Moses ShamMoses** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:50 pm

Diallo's first game or two he looked like Donovan Mitchell but fell off a cliff pretty hard. Maybe he's one of those guys that has it in him, as he's shown in flashes, he just can't sustain it (Rhythm player). I trust Weaver to make the evaluation on his long term outlook.