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Post#421 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Jun 4, 2021 12:14 am

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He’s loathed in Pacers Twitter land. He’s burned a lot of bridges in his attempts to chase clout and create clickbait. I don’t think he can get “press credentials” for anything Pacers related (or Colts related).


Is he a Pacers fan? Indy-based?
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Post#422 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Jun 4, 2021 12:17 am

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He’s loathed in Pacers Twitter land. He’s burned a lot of bridges in his attempts to chase clout and create clickbait. I don’t think he can get “press credentials” for anything Pacers related (or Colts related).


Is he a Pacers fan? Indy-based?


Yes. And yes.
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Post#423 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 12:26 am

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NYG wrote:What future picks would New Orleans need to add to Bledsoe/Adams for Hield/Bagley?

I'd like to see some Adams + (Filler) for Horford .. Adams is loved in Thunder, could be their veteran leader
Horford is old, but I am intrigued by his fit with Zion, on paper it looks great and I think you have to put, a good ring protector together Zion ..

Bledsoe for Hield seems fair ..
The Kings save 2 years of Buddy and something this year ..
Or 3 teams ...
Kuzma / Mckinnie / Gasol to Kings
Bledsoe / 2 seconds(NOP) to Lakers
Hield to NOP ...
I think Bledsoe, he fits in well in Lakers


I like swapping Adams back for Horford if OKC doesn’t address the position in a different way. I wouldn’t want to take Bledsoe, though, and while I like Hield I don’t think I’d want to take Adams deals and Hields after clearing so much space.
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Post#424 » by NYG » Fri Jun 4, 2021 4:21 am

This is playing out to be an interesting playoffs.

If Phoenix wins then Suns/Nuggets is an intriguing series and I'm pumped for Bucks/Nets
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Post#425 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Jun 4, 2021 12:51 pm

Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.
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Post#426 » by loserX » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:02 pm

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Post#427 » by Karmaloop » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:05 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.


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Post#428 » by cl2117 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:52 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.
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Post#429 » by jbk1234 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:05 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.
Drummond's agent basically committed malpractice by forcing him to the Lakers. It was a bad fit on paper. But I would note that the Lakers lost, pretty handedly, the game Drummond was DNP'd.

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Post#430 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:18 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.



Blake’s playing 20 minutes per night so far in the playoffs putting up 5/3/2 and putting up negative offensive and defensive advanced stats. I wouldn’t call him positive yet. He’s truly been replacement level so far.
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Post#431 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:22 pm

cl2117 wrote:Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.

I'm not surprised at all that Blake has managed to find a niche as a solid role player. I don't view it as a "lottery ticket." Casual fans have never given Blake any credit for how skilled he is as a player. They decided that he was "just a dunker" during his rookie year and refused to update their priors since then, no matter how hard he worked on his game. Injuries robbed him of his otherworldly athleticism, but he still has the skills he's developed. I just wish he was back with the Clippers instead of doing this on the Nets.

Despite all that, it's not like his box-score numbers are popping off the screen or anything. People's annual overreaction to the buyout market remains absurd.
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Post#432 » by cl2117 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:23 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.



Blake’s playing 20 minutes per night so far in the playoffs putting up 5/3/2 and putting up negative offensive and defensive advanced stats. I wouldn’t call him positive yet. He’s truly been replacement level so far.

10/5/2 on 61% TS in the regular season though with ok advanced stats and giving them 20 minutes a game.

They don't need him to do anything since they've got a healthy big 3, but the point is that he's better than the other options they had. Don't think he'll be an impact player for them, but again having a lottery ticket is better than not having one.
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Post#433 » by Karmaloop » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:29 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Blake’s playing 20 minutes per night so far in the playoffs putting up 5/3/2 and putting up negative offensive and defensive advanced stats. I wouldn’t call him positive yet. He’s truly been replacement level so far.


Agreed. He's got more value as a name brand player then for his actual play.
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Post#434 » by NYG » Sat Jun 5, 2021 8:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.


But what about when the Clippers sign John Wall?
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Post#435 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Jun 5, 2021 8:33 pm

Drummond was trying to raise his profile by advancing. Instead he lost money. Can't believe the Lakers benched him in the elimination game. That was a nice parting gift. I think he's looking at the MLE at this point. Still an upgrade over Biz and Zeller.
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Post#436 » by ejftw » Sat Jun 5, 2021 8:41 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:In today's edition of things that are not super surprising...

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Turner should absolutely be shopped, but Evan Massey is one of the absolute worst “insiders”. He doesn’t have access to anyone, or anywhere. He purports to be an NBA, NFL, NCAA, MLB, and racing insider. He has no idea how the NBA Cap rules work (previously said the Warriors were monitoring Kawhi’s free agency this offseason with interest in signing him……how?). He’s not affiliated with anyone. He doesn’t even get invited to the lowest levels of any local radio, or even podcasts. He’s absolutely the worst type of clickbait based writer selling his soul hoping to get an invite on a show, any show. In his write ups, every one of his citations only link back to his own tweets that he used to base that article off of. HE. IS. THE. WORST. Like, he should be banned from being cited here unless he proves a well researched future with fact based reporting that not only comes true, but wasn’t just an obvious write up to begin with.

I’m probably more connected to the Pacers than Evan Massey is, and I’ve only got tertiary, AT BEST, connections there :lol:


BUT….it’s also common sense. And the teams he listed as “interested” are also relatively common sense teams that reportedly need a long-term answer at center. So, fling enough spaghetti at the wall, and maybe something eventually sticks.


So he's Arye Abraham with a check mark. :lol:
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Post#437 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Jun 5, 2021 8:58 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:In today's edition of things that are not super surprising...

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Turner should absolutely be shopped, but Evan Massey is one of the absolute worst “insiders”. He doesn’t have access to anyone, or anywhere. He purports to be an NBA, NFL, NCAA, MLB, and racing insider. He has no idea how the NBA Cap rules work (previously said the Warriors were monitoring Kawhi’s free agency this offseason with interest in signing him……how?). He’s not affiliated with anyone. He doesn’t even get invited to the lowest levels of any local radio, or even podcasts. He’s absolutely the worst type of clickbait based writer selling his soul hoping to get an invite on a show, any show. In his write ups, every one of his citations only link back to his own tweets that he used to base that article off of. HE. IS. THE. WORST. Like, he should be banned from being cited here unless he proves a well researched future with fact based reporting that not only comes true, but wasn’t just an obvious write up to begin with.

I’m probably more connected to the Pacers than Evan Massey is, and I’ve only got tertiary, AT BEST, connections there :lol:


BUT….it’s also common sense. And the teams he listed as “interested” are also relatively common sense teams that reportedly need a long-term answer at center. So, fling enough spaghetti at the wall, and maybe something eventually sticks.


So he's Arye Abraham with a check mark. :lol:


That’s not a bad comparison at all. But, I think Arye has at least gotten 1 or 2 things right before, and a million wrong. I’m not sure Evan is that. He’s kind of a blogger that can’t catch on anywhere that exists.
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Post#438 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:18 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.



Oh I have always conceded that useful players get bought out. Bucks got some play from Wes Matthews and Marvin Williams in recent years for instance.

But I was told by many many people that the NBA was ruined because Drummond went to the Lakers and of course that didn't happen because buyout players are never the missing piece. They never decide teh champion and never decide a series.

It's much ado about nothing that got blown up because big names went to LA and Brooklyn and because a couple people were mad that their team had to buyout guys who clearly had negative value but they simply could not come to terms with it.
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Post#439 » by zimpy27 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:46 am

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cl2117 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.



Oh I have always conceded that useful players get bought out. Bucks got some play from Wes Matthews and Marvin Williams in recent years for instance.

But I was told by many many people that the NBA was ruined because Drummond went to the Lakers and of course that didn't happen because buyout players are never the missing piece. They never decide teh champion and never decide a series.

It's much ado about nothing that got blown up because big names went to LA and Brooklyn and because a couple people were mad that their team had to buyout guys who clearly had negative value but they simply could not come to terms with it.


I think people were more annoyed by Griffin and he is showing why. They don't win game 1 without him.
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Post#440 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:19 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:Chuck's weekly petty buyout reminder. Lakers played a clinching game 6 with AD unable to really go and Drummond was a DNP-CD. Still waiting for some of you to acknowledge any of this.....

Though on the flip side Austin Rivers has been huge---and not one of the bUyOuTz R rUiNiNg tHe LeAgUe guys even mentioned him.

Buyouts don't favor the elite teams nor do they decide series or champions basically ever. Let's please not do this again next year.

Blake Griffin? Definitely been better than what the Nets should have been able to get given their situation. Always an advantage to have another team pay for your bench, even if it's not gonna swing a series/championship. Inches matter.

Just because it rarely has an affect doesn't mean it's not an advantage. Having a lottery ticket is still better than not having one.



Oh I have always conceded that useful players get bought out. Bucks got some play from Wes Matthews and Marvin Williams in recent years for instance.

But I was told by many many people that the NBA was ruined because Drummond went to the Lakers and of course that didn't happen because buyout players are never the missing piece. They never decide teh champion and never decide a series.

It's much ado about nothing that got blown up because big names went to LA and Brooklyn and because a couple people were mad that their team had to buyout guys who clearly had negative value but they simply could not come to terms with it.


Wes Matthews came to Indy his buyout year and started. His year in Milwaukee was BAE or something of the sort?

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