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Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#41 » by Ph@t Joe » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:42 pm

?

I'm really confused! Spotrac says Mitchell Robinson is owed 1.8 Million, but what is his Cap Hold?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/mitchell-robinson-27002/


2nd Question:

Do we really have $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer?

According to this article we do:

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/261138/2021-NBA-Cap-Space-Projecting-All-30-Teams

The way I calculated is this:

Julius Randle (19.8)
RJ Barrett (8.7)
Joakim Noah (6.5)
Obi Toppin (5.1)
Im Quickley (2.2)
M. Robinson (1.8)
7 Rosters Spots (3.5) (7 x 500,000)

Trade for More Cap Space

Frank Ntilikina (8.3)
Kevin Knox (5.9)

Non Guaranteed (Also tradeable for More Cap Space)

Luca Vildoza (3.3)
19th Pick (2.7)
21st Pick (2.5)



So the way I calculate it is if we trade Frank Ntilikina & Kevin Knox for Cap Space,

Trade the 19th Pick & 21 Pick to a Cap Space Team (I absolutely would never ever do this :lol: )

And not pick up Luca Vildoza contact option,

Against a 112 Million Cap, I have 47.6 in Guaranteed Salaries which equals

64.4 Million in Cap Space, not 73 Million in Cap Space

So what am I missing? Is it Mitchell Robinson's Cap HOLD?
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Re: Around The NBA - Round 2 - New Thread!!! 

Post#42 » by Oscirus » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:51 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Since we're slandering Paul George, let me just remind everyone that he's marrying a below average Serbian stripper who he knocked up and tried to bribe into having an abortion.

Eh wouldn't say she's below average
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Re: Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#43 » by DOT » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:52 pm

Ph@t Joe wrote:So what am I missing?

Randle's contract isn't fully guaranteed

Technically, we can waive him to free up 15 million

And the article you cite explains the "max" money is declining every option, every non-guaranteed contract, and renouncing all FAs. That's how they got to the 74 million figure

The third chart is the "projected" cap space, which has us at 64 million, because we don't waive Randle, so that's what our cap space is likely gonna be.
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Post#44 » by 8516knicks » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:19 pm

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god shammgod wrote:they really told me on here that pg was better than melo back in the day. the unmitigated gall.

Exactly. People don't think this man is comfortable and content with his career in winning multiple rings with multiple teams while living his best life in San Diego. He'll get Paul George traded before HE leaves San Diego.


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Re: Wait! WHAT!?! New York has $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer? What is "Money" Robinson's Cap HOLD? 

Post#45 » by Richard4444 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:32 pm

Ph@t Joe wrote:?

I'm really confused! Spotrac says Mitchell Robinson is owed 1.8 Million, but what is his Cap Hold?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/mitchell-robinson-27002/


2nd Question:

Do we really have $73 Million in CAP SPACE this Summer?

According to this article we do:

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/261138/2021-NBA-Cap-Space-Projecting-All-30-Teams

The way I calculated is this:

Julius Randle (19.8)
RJ Barrett (8.7)
Joakim Noah (6.5)
Obi Toppin (5.1)
Im Quickley (2.2)
M. Robinson (1.8)
7 Rosters Spots (3.5) (7 x 500,000)

Trade for More Cap Space

Frank Ntilikina (8.3)
Kevin Knox (5.9)

Non Guaranteed (Also tradeable for More Cap Space)

Luca Vildoza (3.3)
19th Pick (2.7)
21st Pick (2.5)



So the way I calculate it is if we trade Frank Ntilikina & Kevin Knox for Cap Space,

Trade the 19th Pick & 21 Pick to a Cap Space Team (I absolutely would never ever do this :lol: )

And not pick up Luca Vildoza contact option,

Against a 112 Million Cap, I have 47.6 in Guaranteed Salaries which equals

64.4 Million in Cap Space, not 73 Million in Cap Space

So what am I missing? Is it Mitchell Robinson's Cap HOLD?


1) Mitch has a team option still not picked for next year.

2) Each roster spots cost us almost 1M.

3) Frank is an RFA next season.

4) If you waive Randle and picks, you have 34M in payroll: Barret (9), IQ(2), Mitch (2), Noah (6), Randle (4), Obi (5), Knox (6). 41M counting 7 Roster Spots. If we believe the salary cap will be 114M, ot will give us a cap room of 73M.
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Post#46 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:53 pm

RJ Destroyer Hunter has a meniscus tear, will get surgery and miss the rest of the playoffs.
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Post#48 » by Fury » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:03 pm

KnicksGod wrote:RJ Destroyer Hunter has a meniscus tear, will get surgery and miss the rest of the playoffs.


Destroying RJ takes a toll
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Post#49 » by Huey Freeman » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:17 pm

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Huey Freeman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:they really told me on here that pg was better than melo back in the day. the unmitigated gall.

Exactly. People don't think this man is comfortable and content with his career in winning multiple rings with multiple teams while living his best life in San Diego. He'll get Paul George traded before HE leaves San Diego.

Think you meant to quote me but yeah, agreed


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Post#50 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:22 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:RJ Destroyer Hunter has a meniscus tear, will get surgery and miss the rest of the playoffs.


Destroying RJ takes a toll


Could have been that viciously dirty play when he tried a layup and somebody lightly touched him instead of letting him score.
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Post#51 » by DaGawd » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:23 pm

That’s a really tough break for atl
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Post#52 » by HerSports85 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:50 pm

Can’t believe we’re still paying Noah
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Post#53 » by HerSports85 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:53 pm

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Post#54 » by Oscirus » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:05 pm

Knicks bout to trade for kemba
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Post#55 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:09 pm

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stuporman wrote:So Kawhi is going to leave the Clips because PG is a playoff choker and come to the Knicks because Randle's playoff premier was such a stellar clutch performance? Have I got this right? Are people still thinking that this is a thing that can happen?

I have to wonder if all the positive energy and culture change that was established through the season may have been tarnished with the atrocious display in the playoffs so any stars considering the Knicks by the end of the regular season may have second thoughts now.


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Post#56 » by Oscirus » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:11 pm

Would the kemba Randle super team suffice?
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Post#57 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:18 pm

Randle + Knox for Jalen Brown + Kemba + 16th pick

Who says no?
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Post#58 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:28 pm

sol537 wrote:Randle + Knox for Jalen Brown + Kemba + 16th pick

Who says no?



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Post#59 » by seren » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:39 pm

KP for Kemba is the natural outcome
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Post#60 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:53 pm

Could be what happens but Kemba next to Luka doesn’t work really.

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