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Richard4444 · Post #541 » by **Richard4444** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:09 am

Montmorencie wrote:Can we find another, third Bogdanovic for the Knicks?

In the last decade, we already found a second Antetokounmpo, a second Holiday, and a second Lopez. The results were not very good.

I will stick with the originals.

SelbyCobra · Post #542 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:18 am

Richard4444 wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:Can we find another, third Bogdanovic for the Knicks?

In the last decade, we already found a second Antetokounmpo, a second Holiday, and a second Lopez. The results were not very good.

I will stick with the originals.

Oscirus · Post #543 » by **Oscirus** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:58 am

Richard4444 wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:Can we find another, third Bogdanovic for the Knicks?

In the last decade, we already found a second Antetokounmpo, a second Holiday, and a second Lopez. The results were not very good.

I will stick with the originals.

Wasnt anything wrong with justin or robin. If anything, we could use justins 3 and d and robins boxing out

Montmorencie · Post #544 » by **Montmorencie** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:31 am

If the Bucks grind their way to 2-2... who knows. Rockets were getting demolished by Warriors in the games they lost, but they took the close games and they were going to advance, hadn't been for the CP3 injuries.

spree2kawhi · Post #545 » by **spree2kawhi** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:59 am

Montmorencie wrote:If the Bucks grind their way to 2-2... who knows. Rockets were getting demolished by Warriors in the games they lost, but they took the close games and they were going to advance, hadn't been for the CP3 injuries.

Imo the Rockets were never going to advance.

Montmorencie · Post #546 » by **Montmorencie** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:23 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:If the Bucks grind their way to 2-2... who knows. Rockets were getting demolished by Warriors in the games they lost, but they took the close games and they were going to advance, hadn't been for the CP3 injuries.

Imo the Rockets were never going to advance.

Based on what? They lost in single digits at home to Warriors, without CP3, jacking up and missing 27 threes in a row. if CP3 is famous for something, it's his cold head. He would have definitely given them few buckets by some smart-ass play by himself.

You never know, but this Rockets team was strong af.

spree2kawhi · Post #547 » by **spree2kawhi** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:49 pm

Montmorencie wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:If the Bucks grind their way to 2-2... who knows. Rockets were getting demolished by Warriors in the games they lost, but they took the close games and they were going to advance, hadn't been for the CP3 injuries.

Imo the Rockets were never going to advance.

Based on what? They lost in single digits at home to Warriors, without CP3, jacking up and missing 27 threes in a row. if CP3 is famous for something, it's his cold head. He would have definitely given them few buckets by some smart-ass play by himself.

You never know, but this Rockets team was strong af.

Ultimately there is no reason to assume he would've won that game for them. And while you say he's mostly known for his cool head, I'd disagree. To me he's mostly known for being a bitch that's routinely been eliminated in the playoffs. You act as if Curry, Klay and so on weren't even there, but they were.

I'm rooting for Phoenix this year, but let's not overrate him only because he's playing very well.

Montmorencie · Post #548 » by **Montmorencie** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:38 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:Imo the Rockets were never going to advance.

Based on what? They lost in single digits at home to Warriors, without CP3, jacking up and missing 27 threes in a row. if CP3 is famous for something, it's his cold head. He would have definitely given them few buckets by some smart-ass play by himself.

You never know, but this Rockets team was strong af.

Ultimately there is no reason to assume he would've won that game for them. And while you say he's mostly known for his cool head, I'd disagree. To me he's mostly known for being a bitch that's routinely been eliminated in the playoffs. You act as if Curry, Klay and so on weren't even there, but they were.

I'm rooting for Phoenix this year, but let's not overrate him only because he's playing very well.

Watch on YouTube

He is big time. He's failed in playoffs because he wasn't healthy. Year after year, he's been injured.

3toheadmelo · Post #549 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:49 pm

Read on Twitter

WargamesX · Post #550 » by **WargamesX** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:19 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Both Bogdanovics are surprisingly good defenders. The stereotype of bad European defenders might be over.

Worst_to_First · Post #551 » by **Worst_to_First** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:29 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Jazz really have multiple players that can at the same time shoot, defend and create for others.

Also the way they execute at the last 4 minutes of games is top notch.

Gravy · Post #552 » by **Gravy** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:37 pm

Dang. I missed the curling conversation, one of my fav olympic sports :lol:

Ah well Go Bux

3toheadmelo · Post #553 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:41 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Jazz really have multiple players that can at the same time shoot, defend and create for others.

Also the way they execute at the last 4 minutes of games is top notch.

Also worth considering they are without Conley. Very strong team all around. Do you think they’re better than Phoenix? That’s a tough one for me.

Worst_to_First · Post #554 » by **Worst_to_First** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:44 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Jazz really have multiple players that can at the same time shoot, defend and create for others.

Also the way they execute at the last 4 minutes of games is top notch.

Also worth considering they are without Conley. Very strong team all around. Do you think they’re better than Phoenix? That’s a tough one for me.

Yeah that’s going to be a tough one but would love to see a Jazz-Suns WCF. Am hoping that the players would stay healthy.

kNicksGmen · Post #555 » by **kNicksGmen** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:18 pm

I want to see suns vs 6ers in the finals if only to see Ayton vs Embiid.

Post #556 » by **KnicksGod** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:07 pm

robillionaire wrote:Kawhi is leaving this seals the deal folks

Phil's plan. Send Donovan to Utah, have them knock out the Clips and drive Kawhi to NY for a dynasty. With Frank back on a cheap deal in the Elfrid role.

Chanel Bomber · Post #557 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:08 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Tall Bogdanovic is a flat-out baller, one of the most underrated players in the league. Can both create his own shot and play off the ball, plus cold-hearted. He's the perfect small-ball 4 next to a player like Gobert.

Chanel Bomber · Post #558 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:13 pm

Utah gives me a glimmer of hope that the Knicks can build a legitimately good team if they trade for or sign Zach Lavine while keeping their core intact.

I think Lavine is the epitome of a player who's never been in the right situation. But his scoring efficiency is elite, he's a dynamic and fluid perimeter player in the mold of Mitchell (perhaps not as good), Murray or Booker. He's just not a floor raiser, but add him to a solid core of players with a strong defensive identity and he elevates your ceiling significantly.

Lavine-Randle-RJ is the only way to go if you're neither team tank or team Dameism.

Fury · Post #559 » by **Fury** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:19 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:Utah gives me a glimmer of hope that the Knicks can build a legitimately good team if they trade for or sign Zach Lavine while keeping their core intact.

I think Lavine is the epitome of a player who's never been in the right situation. But his scoring efficiency is elite, he's a dynamic and fluid perimeter player in the mold of Mitchell (perhaps not as good), Murray or Booker. He's just not a floor raiser, but add him to a solid core of players with a strong defensive identity and he elevates your ceiling significantly.

Lavine-Randle-RJ is the only way to go if you're neither team tank or team Dameism.

I think he'd be great but I don't think Chicago is going to trade him and if they wanted to trade him, we don't have much to offer.

Chanel Bomber · Post #560 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:29 pm

Fury wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Utah gives me a glimmer of hope that the Knicks can build a legitimately good team if they trade for or sign Zach Lavine while keeping their core intact.

I think Lavine is the epitome of a player who's never been in the right situation. But his scoring efficiency is elite, he's a dynamic and fluid perimeter player in the mold of Mitchell (perhaps not as good), Murray or Booker. He's just not a floor raiser, but add him to a solid core of players with a strong defensive identity and he elevates your ceiling significantly.

Lavine-Randle-RJ is the only way to go if you're neither team tank or team Dameism.

I think he'd be great but I don't think Chicago is going to trade him and if they wanted to trade him, we don't have much to offer.

It largely depends on his willingness to leave Chicago. I personally believe the Bulls as currently constructed are doomed, and that he has no shot at making the playoffs next year with the core they have put together. So does he want to rot in Chicago or does he want to finally be relevant in New York?

I think 3 or 4 firsts and a young player would be a fair offer for a player who's technically a threat to leave (assuming he does use that leverage), especially when you consider Chicago's lack of draft capital. If they get a top 4 pick in this year's lottery, it could change everything, obviously. But Lavine is not exactly proven anyway, frankly speaking.