Coaching Search: 7/8 Update - Magic to hire Jamahl Mosley per Woj

MagicFan101 · Post #161 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:35 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.

Better jobs but also more candidates...

Good candidates? … maybe not.

MagicFan101 · Post #162 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:54 pm

Read on Twitter

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lol, any takers?

Nyce_1 · Post #163 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:23 pm

Scotto: In talking to people that are around Jason Kidd, and one source, in particular, had mentioned to me that Orlando reminds Kidd a lot of when he took over in Milwaukee. Kidd loves to teach and develop guys, and he enjoys those challenges. One source close to Kidd felt he’d be excited about potentially being in the mix for the Orlando Magic job. Time will tell on that. As I had reported on the podcast last time, some guys to keep an eye on are Ime Udoka and Kenny Atkinson.

Kidd has worked with John Hammond in Milwaukee. John’s now the GM in Orlando with Jeff Weltman as president there. Some wondered if they’d want to work together again. John previously called Kidd, “A relentless worker. If you ask me, would I work with him again? My answer would be yes. Because I want to win.”

Scotto: From Orlando’s perspective, I’m told they’re looking at all options for the head coaching position. There’s no specific qualification whether it’s a young coach, first-year coach, veteran coach, minority, or not. They’re conducting a wide-open search.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/trail-blazers-offseason-jason-kidd-updates-andre-drummond/

RookieStar · Post #164 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:20 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

lol, any takers?

The NY Wildcats are printing the contract as we speak.

RookieStar · Post #165 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:48 pm

Also, I agree.. with 6 new spots opened we better hurry up cuz who we like might get hired first.

Max Power · Post #166 » by **Max Power** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 pm

I think the Magic need to get this done too. They are arguably the least attractive of the jobs available, although I have my doubts on the Wizards job. The Magic do have some things going for them. ( 2 top 10 lottery picks, some young talent in Issac/Fultz, upcoming cap space, weather, and nice new arena) But most of those other teams have some semblance of star power that can attract a coach.

RookieStar · Post #167 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:05 pm

We cant interview Atkinson cuz his team is still in the POs right? I think we are just waiting for that. Hopefully they get eliminated soon.

Nyce_1 · Post #168 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:38 pm

RookieStar wrote:We cant interview Atkinson cuz his team is still in the POs right? I think we are just waiting for that. Hopefully they get eliminated soon.

We can interview coaches that are still coaching as long as we get approval from their teams.

In recent history, several coaches interviewed between rounds and games. Some have even been hired while still in the playoffs.

RookieStar · Post #169 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:17 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:We cant interview Atkinson cuz his team is still in the POs right? I think we are just waiting for that. Hopefully they get eliminated soon.
We can interview coaches that are still coaching as long as we get approval from their teams.

In recent history, several coaches interviewed between rounds and games. Some have even been hired while still in the playoffs.

wow really? Thats surprising... personally I think that is unprofessional but eh...

magicmouse · Post #170 » by **magicmouse** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:20 am

Stan?? I see you!

basketballRob · Post #171 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:52 am

Surprised Eris Musselman doesn't get another shot at coaching in the NBA. I know he did wonders with his second round pick at Golden State, Gilbert Arenas.

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Post #172 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:20 am

MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.

I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #173 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:54 am

Knightro wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.

I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.

Top candidates typically aren’t signing up for lengthy rebuilds though.

pepe1991 · Post #174 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:06 am

Knightro wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.

I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.

It's attractive in sense it's one of 30 jobs aveliable in strongest basketball league in the world.
Our previous coaching candidates Adrian Griffin and David Vanterpool , 5 years later, still didn't coach anybody. That's why nba coaching job will always be "attractive".

But in comparison to other aveliable jobs, Pelicans, Celtics, Blazers in particular, it's not attractive.
Most fixable aveliable teams are Celtics and Pacers. Celtics have everything required to me contender next year with few tweaks.
Pacers have 2 allstar level players in Brogdon and Sabonis and very nice assets in Levert and Turner to tweak roster into bright future. And also TJ Warren, who exploded in last year's playoffs will probably play more than 4 games. They are winning 48+ games next year regardless who takes them.
Pelicans are both attractive in sense you have Zion and Ingram, but also hard to balance roster.

Orlando has nobody right now worth talking about in sense of future greatness. Your selling point can't be "lenghty rebuilding process" knowing average lenght of tenure of nba coach is bit over 3 years.
Magic suck this year, next year start off cold, new caoch is already on ice and probably gone at some point during 3rd year.
That's why us landing top 3 pick is pivotal , even for coaching decision. If we strike out of luck this year in draft, we might as well be coached by Greg Popovich and Phil Jackson together and still be terrible team for years.

Post #175 » by **Knightro** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 am

OrlChamps2030 wrote:Top candidates typically aren’t signing up for lengthy rebuilds though.

What is the definition of a top candidate though?

It varies by team based on situation and expectations, right?

zaymon · Post #176 » by **zaymon** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:11 pm

From sleeper candidates i really like Martin Schiller after some research. His strengths are individual development and communication with players. He has experience coaching national team, g league and euroleague. Perhaps D'Antoni wants to move to Florida and teach some young promising coach as his lead assistant ?

OrlChamps2030 · Post #177 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:31 pm

Knightro wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:Top candidates typically aren’t signing up for lengthy rebuilds though.

What is the definition of a top candidate though?

It varies by team based on situation and expectations, right?

Yeah it can vary from team to team. Win now coaches vs rebuilding coaches etc.

But I don’t see us getting a top rebuilding coach like Atkinson (without lotto luck) or a top name first time head coach (Billups?)

I see us going for a first time head coach that may not be able to pick their destination as much, like Vanterpool or Hammon

Last Guardian · Post #178 » by **Last Guardian** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Kidd has my vote since Penny basically said no already. Wouldn't mind Billups at all. I like the idea of a former star PG being the coach. Obviously we should be more interested in development next season and less about wins. I think players especially young ones would be invested in a coach that not only played in the league but was a star.

magicorlando12 · Post #179 » by **magicorlando12** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:56 pm

https://youtu.be/k28cXKM-pQY

*listen close to the end, one of them actually picked the Magic as the best job available then got crucified for the decision*

tiderulz · Post #180 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm

Knightro wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:If we don’t land a top 3 pick, this job is not going to attract a top candidate.

If that wasn’t already the case, it is now. Better and better jobs keep opening up.

I don't really agree with this.

Ownership has always given a very long leash to coaches and I am pretty sure everyone in the organization accepts this is going to be a lengthy rebuilding process.

It could be a very attractive job for someone looking for the runway to establish a culture and really put their stamp on the organization as a whole.

Jacque Vaughn, Frank Vogel. Steve Clifford. Maybe in the past, but not recently